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Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez

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And? First, Ajax officially announced it as 40m eur+ 2m add-ons. Second, if player was good/very good for at least 2 seasons and we won't sell him for less than 50% for what we paid he's clearly better transfer than other players who weren't good at any time for Spurs and we lost more than 50% for what we paid.

It was announced here as £28m initial plus 14m in add ons. With the usual mix of achievable and possibly unachievable (winning the PL/CL) I think the max we'll pay is £35m.
 

DiVaio

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It was announced here as £28m initial plus 14m in add ons. With the usual mix of achievable and possibly unachievable (winning the PL/CL) I think the max we'll pay is £35m.
It's highly possible that official announcement from Ajax is more accurate
 

rossdapep

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I completely agree with Alli Gold on his assessment.

Sanchez was superb in his first season (go back and look at the opinions of him back then), he was quick to recover, strong in duels and was excellent with his blocks.

Now he's a bit of a shell of that player....but why?

Well, as AG rightly points out, he was playing with Jan Vertonghen and had both Wanyama/Dembele in front of him. That allowed him to focus on his own game, he had someone who would talk to him and he was all the better for it.

Dier, alongside him, and Doherty/Aurier on that right-side are not helping. Also, Toby isn't a leader/talker, so he doesn't get the same mentorship and guidance.

You could argue that he has been playing for a long time now and should have learnt some of these skills but I always see defences as partnerships more than individual units/performances.

For example, a strong leader who communicates well and makes good decisions allows a player like Sanchez to blossom. Whereas, a weak leader who makes his own mistakes, brings a player with Sanchez's skillset and attributes down a level. There is no middle ground.

Players like Sanchez are not leaders, they never will be, but they do compliment their defensive partner. The problem is Tottenham have no strong leader type. It's why I don't think we need 2 x CBs, because I believe one exceptional CB will raise the level of Sanchez & Tanganga - Rodon can then learn from the CB who has leadership qualities.

It's why I'd happily sell Dier before any of the others. His strength is his supposed leadership, but it's not up to standard - his other attributes are bettered by our other CBs.

Sell Dier & Toby
Bring in a big strong leader-type CB and we'll see a massive difference with Sanchez and Tanganga will also benefit.
 

Aphex

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Never been convinced by Sanchez, I just don't think he is very good at all. Doesn't seem like a natural defender to me, he's rash, weak and panics too much. We should cut our losses. We need to be ruthless with these types of players.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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you also then cast your mind back to the Everton game featuring Toby and Sanchez and they were equally as comical.

let’s face it, no matter which two he plays there will be fuck ups that result in goals.

Do you think it’s purely coincidental that all our senior centre backs have performed to a good level for sustained periods at points in their spurs career and now all of a sudden they’re all calamitous no matter who is picked?
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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It really sucks because those first 2 years he looked like a star in the making. No idea what's happened since then.

Tbf Mourinho basically saying he was a weak link when Man U played Ajax in the Europa league final probably didn’t fill him with confidence from the off.

The funny think is I could easily see him moving to a to a top European side and having a good career. He has all the tools, just needs to get his belief back.
 

dtxspurs

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Tbf Mourinho basically saying he was a weak link when Man U played Ajax in the Europa league final probably didn’t fill him with confidence from the off.

The funny think is I could easily see him moving to a to a top European side and having a good career. He has all the tools, just needs to get his belief back.
Agreed.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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the problem we have is who on earth is A. going to want to buy him and B.have the required cash to stump up for him?


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mano-obe

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I loved John Scales, although technically he went to Liverpool first, I think!!!!!
What an absolute waste of space he was. Disgraceful signing ?
He was dreadful! I think Perry for his size was the only half decent one we got from the dons. I think you're correct about Scales too, they got there before us and I was gutted at the time.
 

G Ron

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Feel sorry for him having to play next to Dier

Don’t get me wrong, Davinson hasn’t been great but Dier is bloody awful

I couldn’t agree more with this. Yes he’s had a few howlers but I thought he was decent at City (barring the Gundogan debacle) and the same at the weekend. Like many have said, put him next to Diaz and I bet he’d look like a far more assured defender - look at the impact he has had on Stones. At least he does have defensive instincts (as opposed to Dier).

I can understand the sentiment behind people being keen to nurture Tanganga and Rodon as our future centre half pairing, but in the current circumstances with confidence so low I think it would be a terrible time to explore that.
 

Montalbano

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I've never wanted him more than now. Hadn't heard of him before your post but I really hope we sign him.
Very good defender. At the very least we won’t be conceding many from corners if we paired him and Rodon. Both are 6’4” and can head bricks lmao
 

TPdYID

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Never been convinced by Sanchez, I just don't think he is very good at all. Doesn't seem like a natural defender to me, he's rash, weak and panics too much. We should cut our losses. We need to be ruthless with these types of players.
Interested to get an insight into your interpretation of "ruthless".

He is a young international defender with a sizeable length left on his contract. You can't just give players away who fall from flavour of the month. He's not a pokemon card you can swap in and swap out.
 

Shadydan

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I'm convinced that Sanchez needs someone to hold his hand, he needs a leader next to him, he still has potential so I think we should keep him.
 

Japhet

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Do you think it’s purely coincidental that all our senior centre backs have performed to a good level for sustained periods at points in their spurs career and now all of a sudden they’re all calamitous no matter who is picked?

I think we can attribute a huge amount of that to losing Jan Vertonghen. We don't have a proper left sided CB now, nor do we have a player reliably organizes the back line. As has been said before, Michael Dawson was twice the player when he partnered up with Ledley King and we're in a similar situation now.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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He's not a pokemon card you can swap in and swap out.


More's the pity. When it comes to dealing with crosses, between him, Dier & Lloris we could benefit from swapping them for someone who's gonna catch 'em all. :cautious:






Not even close to being sorry :finger:
 

Aphex

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Interested to get an insight into your interpretation of "ruthless".

He is a young international defender with a sizeable length left on his contract. You can't just give players away who fall from flavour of the month. He's not a pokemon card you can swap in and swap out.

Fall from flavour of the month? Haha! He’s been here over four years and apart from his first season he’s been so poor that he’s never been reliable enough to make the CB position his own, never once becoming a regular fixture.

Ruthless means getting rid of players who clearly aren’t good enough, nobody said give away for free but at the same time if we think somebody is going to pay us 40 million for him, well that’s ridiculous. We are going to have to cut our losses. Unfortunately though Levy spent a club record on him at the time and it’s not been money well spent. My point is there is zero point keeping him around in the hope he will turn into a top class CB. He’s not terrible, but he’s not good enough and there are no signs of improvement.

Selling our deadwood is one of the clubs biggest challenges but it’s one we need to make a success of if we want to move forward.
 
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