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Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez

Spurrific

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What a shocker - he has a bad game and the “council of fuckwits who know nothing about football” come crawling out of the woodwork, micropenes in hand.

He isn’t ready to replace Jan, doesn’t negate how much potential he has.
 

cookiemonster

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What a shocker - he has a bad game and the “council of fuckwits who know nothing about football” come crawling out of the woodwork, micropenes in hand.

He isn’t ready to replace Jan, doesn’t negate how much potential he has.

Potential? LOL
 

pelayo59

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Potential? LOL

Ahh yes, he only was a beast for Ajax, and when he played majority of 17/18 we conceded less than in 18/19. Also nominated for YPOTY in PL. Remember that players like VVD or Kou at his age played in Belgium or Scotland. And he's learning from Toby and Jan.
 

JCRD

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At which stage does potential become erm... realised? Surely Poch should be helping him to improve and realise that potential? Can you safely say Sanchez is better now than two years ago? I cant say for certain that is the case which then means one of two things

Either Poch cant help him realise his potential

or

Sanchez doesnt have the potential most of us think he has/had.

I think he is ok but it is obvious that when he plays the opposition target him as a weak point.
 

ljinko888

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At the moment he just seems like one of those defenders who need to be constantly in action to prove himself. In games where there is no respite. Because it's games when he has fuck all to do defensively he seems to make his errors and one moment of lacking concentration cost us against Villa and yesterday.
 

Mark_147

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At which stage does potential become erm... realised? Surely Poch should be helping him to improve and realise that potential? Can you safely say Sanchez is better now than two years ago? I cant say for certain that is the case which then means one of two things

Either Poch cant help him realise his potential

or

Sanchez doesnt have the potential most of us think he has/had.

I think he is ok but it is obvious that when he plays the opposition target him as a weak point.
How can he be better than he was 2 years ago if he spent most of last season on the bench.
 

agrdavidsfan

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Never seen a player get so hung out to dry when he’s actually not as 100% at fault as others are making out

There’s 4 things that go wrong

1. Toby gets dragged over ball and man watching as he’s nervous of KWP

2. Our midfield are all one the shop the space between winks and the defence is laughable schoolboy not one player is reading the game they are all being reactive instead of proactive

3. Sanchez sees Toby move and his inexperience makes him think “shit I need to get closer to him to cover” while he does this he momentarily forgets about his man as he assumes his left back is closer to him and is covering on the turnaround (Ben Davies would have been). His left back partner isn’t communicating with him although he can see the entire situation instead his left back is silent and doesn’t read what’s going to happen or doesn’t have the danger alarm.

4. Rose - it’s awful from him yes I’m annoyed at Sanchez but fuck me this guy needs to get his head out of his ass!

He can see the whole situation developing not once does he shout at his colleague to communicate with him not once does he make an effort to get back faster to defend not once does he look across the line and think oooo danger!

By the time he does realise it’s already too late! Watch the players reactions Toby and Sanchez straight away look at him to say $€¥•$*!

He’s way to concerned about attacking before getting the basics right of defending before you go forward

5 x he lunged in an almost got himself sent off and don’t even get me started on his attacking play.
 

SUIYHA

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Unless he massively steps up his game we're going to need an entirely new defence next season.

Remember back in the day when Campbell left and we had King, Gardner, Doherty and Thelwell as our young CB options. At one point all of them got hyped up. People started raving about "The Ant and Doc show". Gardner even got an England call-up after a good run of form. In the end, only one of them is remembered as anything other than utter shite. If we're going to have not one but TWO of our CBs leave on a free next summer then we need one of our young ones to mature and step up. Out of Sanchez, Foyth, Tanganga and Carter-Vickers then Sanchez has the most pedigree up to now, but then again, we've seen it plenty of times over the years where young CBs show potential and then their careers completely nosedive - from the names I mentioned before to Younes Kaboul, Kevin Wimmer and even Eric Dier, who is still only 25 and could have a role to play but it doesn't look encouraging the way things are going...
 

BigVic

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What gets me with sanchez is the amount of physical battles and duels he seems to lose for a guy of his size.

He needs to start bullying strikers and stop acting like a pussycat.
 

SpartanSpur

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Never seen a player get so hung out to dry when he’s actually not as 100% at fault as others are making out

There’s 4 things that go wrong

1. Toby gets dragged over ball and man watching as he’s nervous of KWP

2. Our midfield are all one the shop the space between winks and the defence is laughable schoolboy not one player is reading the game they are all being reactive instead of proactive

3. Sanchez sees Toby move and his inexperience makes him think “shit I need to get closer to him to cover” while he does this he momentarily forgets about his man as he assumes his left back is closer to him and is covering on the turnaround (Ben Davies would have been). His left back partner isn’t communicating with him although he can see the entire situation instead his left back is silent and doesn’t read what’s going to happen or doesn’t have the danger alarm.

4. Rose - it’s awful from him yes I’m annoyed at Sanchez but fuck me this guy needs to get his head out of his ass!

He can see the whole situation developing not once does he shout at his colleague to communicate with him not once does he make an effort to get back faster to defend not once does he look across the line and think oooo danger!

By the time he does realise it’s already too late! Watch the players reactions Toby and Sanchez straight away look at him to say $€¥•$*!

He’s way to concerned about attacking before getting the basics right of defending before you go forward

5 x he lunged in an almost got himself sent off and don’t even get me started on his attacking play.

Totally agree with this. The more I see this goal the more I think Rose is the prime offender. Said in another thread just like you a more switched on defender such as Davies could easily have prevented both Joelinton's and McGinns goals. Rose reacted way too late (and was out of position) to both.

Sanchez marks Joelinton and theres a gaping 30 yard hole between him and Toby, hardly ideal either!

There are also times where Sanchez shuts an attack down with his recovery pace that would have had us in big trouble with the Toby-Jan partnership but because it's a pretty mundane action no-one really picks up on it.

Sanchez is raw and does get a bit too erratic, but he IS a talent and needs to be playing. What he does need however is a LOT more help from his CMs and FBs, currently non-existent currently.
 

fortworthspur

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Joelinton was just a couple yards off Sanchez when he started his run. Rose had a player to mark out wide. There was nobody else anywhere near the middle that the CBs needed help with. Sanchez just switched off.
 

SpartanSpur

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Joelinton was just a couple yards off Sanchez when he started his run. Rose had a player to mark out wide. There was nobody else anywhere near the middle that the CBs needed help with. Sanchez just switched off.

Not immediately but a deep runner would have had a massive gap to move into. Longstaff had charged through once before already. I'm sure I looked and there wasn't a Newcastle player outside of Rose in picture when Atsu got on the ball.

I think Sanchez got caught ball watching but he was far from the only offender. The whole team was. Look at the MOTD analysis. Not a single bit of pressure on the ball in the whole move.

Edit: watched again and there is no man outside. There is a player about 15 yards in front of him but not the major threat. He has to look along his line and help his CB.
 
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Hakkz

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Jul 6, 2012
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Yep Rose has been pants. Given the ball away more than any other player in the first 3 games.

Very limited defensively and offers nothing going forward. I miss the old Danny Rose but he will never return.
 

Yiddo100

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Jan 16, 2019
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At which stage does potential become erm... realised? Surely Poch should be helping him to improve and realise that potential? Can you safely say Sanchez is better now than two years ago? I cant say for certain that is the case which then means one of two things

Either Poch cant help him realise his potential

or

Sanchez doesnt have the potential most of us think he has/had.

I think he is ok but it is obvious that when he plays the opposition target him as a weak point.
He’s only 23, centre backs reach their peak at like 28
 
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