Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez

[Who’s our next manager?]

He made a pathetic pass right to a West Ham player just seconds before the goal. No pressure on him at the time either, pure carelessness.

Before our first goal .

 

[Jimmypearce7]

Thankfully our 25 trophy winning manager disagree's with you.

He might not- might think he is the best of an average bunch.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Sanchez seems nervous and or he makes me nervous watching him and simply that is never the sign of a fully acomplished defender.

I'm rarely if ever nervous when Toby is back there and to be honest aside from 1 on 1 in the box vs Dier I'm also fairly confident in Dier to be quite solid. Roden has a real opportunity here to stake a 1st team place alongside Dier or Toby the way Sanchez is playing.

Such a shame with Sanchez as so much potential but if its a mentality thing or decision making or positioning or confidence I'm not sure which but he just doesn't seem to be consistent enough. Yes for a CB he's still pretty young but he's into his 3rd season with us now and is very experienced for his age so we'd be hoping he should be hitting a higher level that he is unfortunately.

This having said I think the own goal was a bit unlucky and a bit a bad decision, until that point he'd played pretty well and if we'd won the game say 3-1 we'd not be talking about him, he wasn't at fault for the other goal because Sissoko lost the header and Aurier gave away the free kick for the final goal which was just a one in a million worldie hit from Lanzini, possibly Winks fault for losing the ball but he was also fouled and blocked off so overally aside from the OG which was a tad unlucky you can't really say we lost the game because of Sanchez BUT overall he just doesn't seem to instill the same kind of confidence that a peak Toby or Jan or King did or even peak Dawson etc.

 

[Mark_147]

Not really fair to compare him to peak Toby and Jan as they were 27/28 also I seem to remember Jan getting a fair bit of criticism for his defending under AVB and Sherwood and he was 25 at the time

 

[fortworthspur]

people are pinning a lot of hope on a guy who is only 16 months younger than Sanchez and has yet to make a premier appearance. I dont understand how a 23 year old can be expected to improve with time but a 24 year old cant.

 

[Japhet]

I see lots of attacks on Sanchez but there's a bit of unfairness. The own goal for example, he had to get his head on it as he can't let it go past him, if he had they'd have scored and he'd have been crucified for that.
Why though is nobody asking how the fucking hell their player was allowed to get to the line on the edge of the six yard box to put Sanchez in that situation? Really, how?
Why weren't they stopped outside the box? Why weren't they fouled on the halfway line every time they crossed it? I'm sorry but I'm not putting all the blame on Davinson Sanchez.

Reguilon was very poor in the Sanchez OG situation. Not for the first time, he was positioned poorly and allowed a dangerous cross into the box that Sanchez failed to clear. Not all Sanchez fault by a long way.

 

[wrd]

people are pinning a lot of hope on a guy who is only 16 months younger than Sanchez and has yet to make a premier appearance. I dont understand how a 23 year old can be expected to improve with time but a 24 year old cant.

There's nothing to say that Sanchez can't improve but there's a lot to say he hasn't improved on some pretty glaring weaknesses in his game since he first joined whereas it's understandable people are interested to see if Rodon can come in and improve because he's never had an opportunity to play in the prem surrounded by quality teammates and top coaching to learn from. He's suddenly in a much better environment so it's pretty easy to understand why people could anticipate he could improve significantly.

Where as Sanchez has had that structure in place for a long time where we expected him to improve but he's only improved marginally. There's also other aspects to it. Dier clearly is a Jose favourite and I'm sure Jose would probably relish the opportunity to be able to shift Dier to his preferred right side and get more out of him if the quality difference between Sanchez and Rodon is marginal.

 

[ajspurs]

Reguilon was very poor in the Sanchez OG situation. Not for the first time, he was positioned poorly and allowed a dangerous cross into the box that Sanchez failed to clear. Not all Sanchez fault by a long way.

Yeah. I mean I can only go on memory from real time but Reguilon and Lucas was it? Was absolute amateur defending from the pair of them to double up one one man and leave the overlapping player completely free to then go on and cross unchallenged.

 

[dagraham]

Not really fair to compare him to peak Toby and Jan as they were 27/28 also I seem to remember Jan getting a fair bit of criticism for his defending under AVB and Sherwood and he was 25 at the time

Jan was amazing on the ball though, which allowed him a bit of slack when it came to improving his defending.

Unfortunately Sanchez is also very poor and nervous with the ball if anyone comes within 10 yards of him.

 

[fortworthspur]

There's nothing to say that Sanchez can't improve but there's a lot to say he hasn't improved on some pretty glaring weaknesses in his game since he first joined whereas it's understandable people are interested to see if Rodon can come in and improve because he's never had an opportunity to play in the prem surrounded by quality teammates and top coaching to learn from. He's suddenly in a much better environment so it's pretty easy to understand why people could anticipate he could improve significantly.

Where as Sanchez has had that structure in place for a long time where we expected him to improve but he's only improved marginally. There's also other aspects to it. Dier clearly is a Jose favourite and I'm sure Jose would probably relish the opportunity to be able to shift Dier to his preferred right side and get more out of him if the quality difference between Sanchez and Rodon is marginal.

I disagree with that. He'll have the same team-mates as Sanchez, and I dont for a second believe Sanchez is solely or even mostly responsible for our woes.

 

[Mark_147]

Jan was amazing on the ball though, which allowed him a bit of slack when it came to improving his defending.

Unfortunately Sanchez is also very poor and nervous with the ball if anyone comes within 10 yards of him.

None the less with good coaching Jans defending improved with time.

 

[fortworthspur]

Jan was amazing on the ball though, which allowed him a bit of slack when it came to improving his defending.

Unfortunately Sanchez is also very poor and nervous with the ball if anyone comes within 10 yards of him.

worst part of his game, I agree. needs to work on his passing.

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

people are pinning a lot of hope on a guy who is only 16 months younger than Sanchez and has yet to make a premier appearance. I dont understand how a 23 year old can be expected to improve with time but a 24 year old cant.

Said this earlier today.

 

[wrd]

I disagree with that. He'll have the same team-mates as Sanchez, and I dont for a second believe Sanchez is solely or even mostly responsible for our woes.

I don't see how you can disagree. Rodon has so far in his career been surrounded by teammates from Swansea. I'm pretty confident he's going to benefit from training with a higher quality teammates playing at Spurs. Sanchez has had that priviledge already. I also never said that Sanchez is solely responsible for our woes so I don't know why you've bothered to say that. We're talking solely about why there's probably more hope that Rodon can improve.

 

[fortworthspur]

I don't see how you can disagree. Rodon has so far in his career been surrounded by teammates from Swansea. I'm pretty confident he's going to benefit from training with a higher quality teammates playing at Spurs. Sanchez has had that priviledge already. I also never said that Sanchez is solely responsible for our woes so I don't know why you've bothered to say that. We're talking solely about why there's probably more hope that Rodon can improve.

oh, I see what you're saying. I suppose he will be surrounded by players of more technical quality but I doubt we are any better organized defensively.

 

[Pistols At Dawn]

Yeah. I mean I can only go on memory from real time but Reguilon and Lucas was it? Was absolute amateur defending from the pair of them to double up one one man and leave the overlapping player completely free to then go on and cross unchallenged.

Just rewatched the highlights and this is exactly what happened. Somehow Bowen just cruises past on the overlap and has a stroll into the 6yard box. You could see the goal coming LONG before Sanchez got his head to it.

 

[wrd]

Just rewatched the highlights and this is exactly what happened. Somehow Bowen just cruises past on the overlap and has a stroll into the 6yard box. You could see the goal coming LONG before Sanchez got his head to it.

Think a large part of the problem was that the responsibilities got muddled also. Winks is looking at the guy on the edge of the box when he needs to be closing the space on the cross. Hojbjerg needed to be covering the guy on the edge but got caught in no mans land leaving winks caught between the two jobs.

 

[SlotBadger]

Not really fair to compare him to peak Toby and Jan as they were 27/28 also I seem to remember Jan getting a fair bit of criticism for his defending under AVB and Sherwood and he was 25 at the time

I think he can be excused for this as he must have had a neck ache watching us pass it from left to right to left to right to left to...

 

[mano-obe]

When he has a big run of games he's a great defender. Jose will get the best out of him. His first full season we had the best defence in the league

I would be more concerned about our ability to see out games. This has been a problem for many a year.

 

[DiamondLites]

The most alarming thing is that if anything, he has regressed since he came here. He seems to have become weaker and slower, when he first signed he looked like a monster but now he gets rag dolled by the physical strikers out there and gets drawn into personal battles to easily. Undoubtedly not helped playing in Jose’s low block as opposed to a high line which suits him better, or by the drop off in his CB partners, but I don’t know how much more rope he gets with these individual errors before Jose loses all faith in him