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luRRka

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The amount of people who don't actually follow international football, but are ready to embrace any new shiny toy.
I'd wager 95% of people on this forum whether they say positive or negative things about him have never watched more than one game he's played
 

Timberwolf

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Ticks a lot of boxes: strong, decent technically, right sided, goalscorer, creative, very professional, etc.

However, he does divide opinion a lot at Juve and quite a few of them think he's shit, while others think he's got potential and worth hanging on to.

Given our current state I'd take him in a heartbeat tbh. Nothing to lose on loan and has a high ceiling if Conte can get the best out of him. If he's crap we can just send him back.
 

Wearegoingtowintheleague

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MAJOR red flag being called out over his lack of pace in Serie A, he will get eaten alive in the Premier League if we're relying on him to play as a winger.

Juve fans do not seem to rate him one bit - https://www.juventuz.com/threads/dejan-kulusevski.44222/page-145
Wow, they really do not rate him.

Painfully slow, can't control a football, lack of acceralation, brainless, does so little right, sh*t, waste of space.

Sounds like he will be a great fit, for our match day threads!
 

Snarfalicious

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How is it a panic move if we sounded it out initially, had preferred targets and when they fell through due to really no fault of our own came back to this?

Sure, he’s not the obvious #1 choice, but a loan with option is fine and he’s still very young and very talented. Also think this should mean a valuable loan for Gil.
 

hughy

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Where does he play in Juve's system? Could the negativity from Juve fans be that he just doesn't suit the way Allegri sets them up?
 

Yiddo100

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Perhaps we could actually judge him when he plays for us, rather than say this and that and write him off before
 

Guntz

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Look at how happy some Juve fans were when they thought he might be off to a rival :ROFLMAO:

 

L-man

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Tottenham Hotspur have hit the panic button ahead of the final three days of the January transfer window after missing out on three of their main targets.

Managing director of football Fabio Paratici has now turned to Juventus attacker Dejan Kulusevski as Spurs attempt to placate growing concern.

The London club have seen deals for Adama Traore and Luis Diaz hijacked by Barcelona and Liverpool, while Italian sources have claimed midfielder Franck Kessie would rather remain in Serie A than move to Spurs.

That has forced Tottenham to quickly change their plans with time running out for chairman Daniel Levy and Paratici to avoid a huge backlash from the club’s supporters.

Even worse, Levy and Paratici may well upset head coach Antonio Conte, who identified the need to sign at least a right wing-back, a midfielder and an attacker.

This month represented Tottenham’s opportunity to show the size of the club’s ambition to Conte, who has been careful not to give any public guarantees over his future beyond this season. But the gap the Italian has highlighted between Spurs and the top three of the Premier League will only widen with Liverpool beating them to Porto star Diaz.

Sources have claimed that a state of panic has now gripped Tottenham, along with anger at missing out on both Traore and Diaz inside the space of 24 hours.

There is still time, just about, to rescue the situation but pressure is already growing on Levy, who was in the Bahamas at the start of the January transfer window, and Paratici who is understood to have returned to his native Italy during the international break.

Spurs are still working on a deal to sign midfielder Sofyan Amrabat on loan from Fiorentina, where he has spent the first half of the season on the substitutes bench, but that alone is unlikely to satisfy Conte and the club’s fans.

Paratici has now turned to his old club Juventus in the hope of completing a late eye-catching deal for Kulusevski who can play as an attacking midfielder or on the wing. Any deal would most likely start as a loan with an option to buy.

The fact the 21-year-old Sweden international has only started half the 20 Serie A games he has played for Juve this season may, however, suggest he will need time to make an impact in the Premier League.

Tottenham had a bid of £15 million rejected for Traore last week and Wolverhampton Wanderers have since agreed to send him on loan to Barca, who will pay £26m for the winger in the summer.

Traore is thought to have been put off a move to Spurs by the prospect of being converted into a right wing-back by Conte, which raises questions over why he was pursued by Paratici for so long.

Tottenham first tried to sign Traore in the summer and it appears remarkable that before reigniting the club’s interest in him this month, Parartici would not have held discussions over the role Spurs and Conte had planned for him.

The failed pursuit of Traore, who Paratici had been confident of signing, has left Tottenham scrambling to find an alternative with Conte clearly unhappy with his right-sided options - even though the club spent £25.7m on Emerson Royal from Barcelona in the summer.

Missing out to Liverpool for Diaz is more understandable, although Spurs are said to be furious that news of their interest leaked, giving their Premier League rivals the chance to make their move.

But it remains a puzzle that Tottenham left a move for Diaz so late in the window, leaving them in a race against time to now attempt to clinch a deal for Kulusevski.

Spurs are also still working to send Tanguy Ndombele on loan to Paris St-Germain and secure late deals for Dele Alli and Giovani Lo Celso to leave on loan before the transfer window shuts on Monday night.

Defender Joe Rodon could be targeted by Brighton, should Newcastle United complete a late move for Dan Burn.
 

Cornpattbuck

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Fair enough, like you say the lack of a physical x-factor (pace) would be my biggest concern.

Overall out of all the underwhelming 'black book' deals Paratici could pull out at this point this seems like a promising one to me. Sounds a good fit and Conte if he can adapt to the pace of the league.

I just wonder if the failed bid for Diaz has made people look at this in a more negative light.

Some of the people slagging this lad off were also in the Diaz thread suggesting he wasn't up to much either. Funny that. ?
 

Wogan92

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Oh man, Matt Law is digging the knife in here. I don't see this a panic button move at all. I used to think he was cool with us but this feels like a very agenda driven tweet

From what I've seen of Matt Law (not a lot, don't really pay attention to journalists), he seems to be a twat.
 

wiggo24

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Didn't think he was a good fit at the start of the window, don't think he's a good fit now.

Pressing numbers are good but to succeed in the Prem as a forward imo you have to have to be either elite physically or elite technically. Kulusevski is a good technical player, but not hugely creative, and has that Lo Celso trait where a lot of his shooting actions are a bit weak and tepid. He's also not quick or dynamic over short distances, and his height is basically irrelevant in the position he plays.

Screams of Paratici just going back to what he knows rather than finding a real gem. Plenty of better fits out there than this guy imo.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Here we go again. He's already been written off before anything concrete surfaces. Cheers guys, keep up the good work (y)
If we were now linked to Messi I think some on here would say na he's too old and doesn't work hard enough, if we were linked to De Bruyne it would be na he doesn't were the right colour boots, if we were linked to Van Dijk it would be na we don't like his hair cut.

I know i'm exaggerating but does really feel everything and anything is shit on very quickly at the moment, maybe its Levyitis from many years and many are pre-dispositioned to overreact and explode about any transfer news, maybe its the pandemic so people have less other stuff going on and too much intense focus on every single thing about Spurs but whatever it is the level of OTT negative dramatic reactions isn't healthy.

Look i'm not saying Kulusevski is going to 100% be a world beater and I've given a balanced overview of him but fuck me we've just had a rumour that's all and already its all "this is what I feared would happen and Paratici out", some balance and perspective and patience is needed at the moment surely, its madness on here.
 

matthew.absurdum

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Just finish watching the obligatory YouTube highlight of him. Reminds me a lot of Lamela with his passing and pressing.
 

luRRka

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Where does he play in Juve's system? Could the negativity from Juve fans be that he just doesn't suit the way Allegri sets them up?
Hes played in loads of different positions. The last 3 games he's started for example he's played right wing in a 442, he's played up top in a 442 and he's played number 10 in a 4411 plus he played on the right of a 433 when chiesa got injured in the game against roma
 
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