Player Watch: Dele Alli

[Gb160]

Unfortunately that isn't the case quite often. Agents don't make money unless players move. So day after day they're in the player's ear talking about how much they can earn elsewhere, how they're undervalued, the club doesn't really appreciate them etc. That is the bread and butter of being an agent - unsettling players so they move and you get rich.

Lol...how many agents do u actually know?
Of course agents make money without a player moving, they get a % of all earnings mate.
Not saying some agents don't push for moves, but surely the glut of new contract extensions shows Levy is steering clear of this sort of agent.
To tar them all with the same brush seems a bit daft to me.

 

[thebenjamin]

Lol...how many agents do u actually know?
Of course agents make money without a player moving, they get a % of all earnings mate.
Not saying some agents don't push for moves, but surely the glut of new contract extensions shows Levy is steering clear of this sort of agent.
To tar them all with the same brush seems a bit daft to me.

I know a few, had some business dealings with some of the big ones over the years. Yes there are some good ones, but they are there by definition for players to move clubs. And you're right, they get a cut of earnings. So if Dele's agent is being told by City that they'll pay him £300K a week, and he's getting 10/15% of that -- what do you think he's advising Dele to do?

When you speak to the good agents, they'll be the first ones to tell you that most are bad for the game.

 

[Gb160]

I know a few. Yes there are some good ones, but they are there by definition for players to move clubs.

You think they only get paid if a player moves club, which is plainly wrong, so I'll pass on your input ta

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I seem to be one of few realists. I just don't get why people can't see over the whole history of football, players move for money and trophys. They don't stay because they like it where they are. It's like the people that said Bale won't go, he so happy here, he wants to be the main man, his wife is giving birth and won't move to Spain. All I've said is the club will very unlikely be able to turn down any world record fees for players. And the likes of Alli, who isn't a Tottenham fan, may well get his head swayed at 250k a week upgrade from his ridiculas 60k now

Well, its a different world now - even since Bale left. The TV money has been a massive boost - The Deloitte Money League projects that all 20 PL squads will be in the top-30 next season.

Also, Spurs are first, and foremost, a business investment for ENIC. They are spending a lot of money on a new stadium and surrounding infrastructure. The ONLY way to make that investment pay off, is to have a team where 61,000+ people are showing up for each match to watch. That means that the ownership group have a vested interest in having star players here - not simply going back to the days of mid-table mediocrity, and buying players for the sole purpose of selling at a higher rate later.

 

[Trix]

Proof worth be in the pudding. Sats proves we aren't as close to winning trophys as we think. Difference to be a very good team high in the league and winning titles

We are 4 points off top(despite playing a lot more football), and clear of all the other teams you mentioned. You really must be an idiot to say a one off game on a neutral ground proves anything about where we are as far as winning the title is concerned. Even then we were the better team for the majority of the match. Even then the result was imo not representative of how the two teams played on the day.

 

[Trix]

Unfortunately that isn't the case quite often. Agents don't make money unless players move. So day after day they're in the player's ear talking about how much they can earn elsewhere, how they're undervalued, the club doesn't really appreciate them etc. That is the bread and butter of being an agent - unsettling players so they move and you get rich.

How many agents do you know mate?

Cos you are talking bollocks!

 

[michaelden]

City are in for Rose and Walker as well

City buy Walker, Rose, Dier, Allie, Eriksen, Kane... change name to Northern Spurs

 

[thebenjamin]

How many agents do you know mate?

Cos you are talking bollocks!

Ok mate. Agents don't have a vested interest in their player making giant money moves and trebling their salaries.

 

[michaelden]

Because he's on £240k a week. We're vulnerable because we pay low.

Man Utd pay £300K pw... So by your reasoning City are vulnerable to losing Kun

 

[thebenjamin]

Man Utd pay £300K pw... So by your reasoning City are vulnerable to losing Kun

Rooney's United's top earner on £250K according to reports. In any case, surely you can see the difference between that and Dele being on £60K at Spurs?

 

[WalkerboyUK]

City buy Walker, Rose, Dier, Allie, Eriksen, Kane... change name to Northern Spurs

City buy all those and Levy won't need to find any money for the stadium!!!

 

[michaelden]

Rooney's United's top earner on £250K according to reports. In any case, surely you can see the difference between that and Dele being on £60K at Spurs?

Yes, £120M reasons that would need to be paid 1st

 

[thebenjamin]

Yes, £120M reasons that would need to be paid 1st

City could pay that without blinking. They have unlimited money and FFP is dead. We have to say not for sale at any price.

 

[Trix]

Ok mate. Agents don't have a vested interest in their player making giant money moves and trebling their salaries.

Well I know a couple of agents personally, and my mate deals with quite a few of them day in day out. Agents are there to look after the best interest of there clients NOT to get them moves to make more money for themselves, and believe it or not that is what the majority do. I don't know which ones you have had "business dealings" with in the past but they are far from representative with any that I have met or heard about. I'm sure there are a few out there as you describe but believe me fucking up a players career by telling them to move for the money might make them a few quid but it won't keep them in work for long.

P.S Levy tends to avoid the shit agents like the plague. Something worth remembering when next a player "slips through the net".

 

[thebenjamin]

Well I know a couple of agents personally, and my mate deals with quite a few of them day in day out. Agents are there to look after the best interest of there clients NOT to get them moves to make more money for themselves, and believe it or not that is what the majority do. I don't know which ones you have had "business dealings" with in the past but they are far from representative with any that I have met or heard about. I'm sure there are a few out there as you describe but believe me fucking up a players career by telling them to move for the money might make them a few quid but it won't keep them in work for long.

P.S Levy tends to avoid the shit agents like the plague. Something worth remembering when next a player "slips through the net".

Would moving Dele to Man City for £300K a week be "fucking up a player's career"?

And there's no need to be quite so patronising. It doesn't become you.

 

[panoma]

City buy all those and Levy won't need to find any money for the stadium!!!

Gonna have a hard time filling it though if we sell all our best players...

 

[Hazardousman]

Gonna have a hard time filling it though if we sell all our best players...

Exactly, what's the point of a new stadium if we are going to be sitting mid-table after selling all our best players, also, selling players means the manager will go, no doubt about it.

 

[Trix]

Would moving Dele to Man City for £300K a week be "fucking up a player's career"?

And there's no need to be quite so patronising. It doesn't become you.

Sorry, but when you put up blanket statements like.....

" they are there by definition for players to move clubs"
"Agents don't make money unless players move"
"So day after day they're in the player's ear talking about how much they can earn elsewhere"

Patronising or not that is complete and utter BS mate.

Like I said I don't know which agents you have had dealings with in the past but I'd forget pretty much everything they have told you because it is not how the vast majority of agents work at all.

 

[nightgoat]

Of course they do, all the top teams in the world want him

You know this for a fact or are you just assuming?

 

[nightgoat]

Do you you stadiums make such a difference? If you offered a player 250k a week to play in front of 60k or 200k a week to play in front of 25k, I'm pretty sure they will choose the money

And which do you think is more likely to be able to sustain high player wages, a club with an 18,000 capacity or a club with a 60,000 capacity (who also play in the richest league in the world).