Player Watch - Djed Spence - Genoa

[rossdapep]

we are not talking about a 17 year old kid, he's 22 and like skip and Sessegnon they need to play in order to develop, 28 minutes is a joke, there is no way he is going to develop with that amount of game time.

You can make all the excuses you want but as we saw he isn't this 'raw' prospect, he's not less than what we have. Sess plays consistently and he has had some absolute horrid matches

All players are at different ages of their development.

Sessegnon was 16 when he got his first start for Fulham and 18 when he got his first start in the PL. He was trusted because he had maturity and could take the coaches message on board and apply it.

Spence made his debut later than Sess and wasn't even trusted by Warnock. He only has 1 solid year behind him and would have gotten away with mistakes or not applying coaches instructions a bit more.

We are not in a position to throw a lad who is still raw, and maybe won't take the coach's instructions on board.

Imagine if he did come in and didn't do as well as people are hoping? Then what? Confidence destroyed? Conte trusts him even less so?

I coach and you absolutely have to get the timing right. An arrogant kid who has many flaws needs to be grounded for his development. A mature kid who has some confidence issues can be built up with game time.

From what Spence posts and what Warnock said about him, he may fall into the 'a little arrogant' or 'wayward' type, and there have been stories rememeber. Therefore these players need to know they have earnt the game time and know they have to do what the coach requests.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Same. But I got slated for it.

people saying oh he’s young he’s inexperienced, but the guy has played wing back for a few years and passing the ball to the forward then overlapping them is a pretty simple move that you’re meant to do.

probably because you've made your point that you don't rate spence(or that there are multiple aspects of his game that don't impress you) more than enough times already so when you come barrelling in here with yet more criticism after a 30 minute cameo(having barely played all season), of course others aren't going to be very receptive to what you're saying.

also we don't know what instructions spence was under, maybe he wasn't told to overlap or whatever it is you think he should be doing.

 

[whitesocks]

Completely agree. I didnt see anything, bar that one run to suggest he has much that we need.

if anything it confirmed why he isn't ready. He didn't look to overlap once, he ignored kulu numerous times for no reason and just stood with the ball looking lost, he stood inside a few times at a stand still without any movement.

true, but I remember walker ignoring lennon in a similar way. He'd make no effort to release him, (and would sprint the length of the pitch to win a corner at best.)
Previously Corluka would play the ball into space for lennon to race after. Still only would result in a corner, but at least there was some intelligence in the build up.

What spence doesn't understand is kulu is not a winger, but a no 10. He is our creative and can see a pass that others can't. Spence's job is to feed him the ball at every opportunity. Even walker finally worked out it was better to pass back to eriksen, (than attempt to cross himself.)

 

[spursville]

I don't think that's totally fair

His run is something they can't do. And his touch looks better.

He attracts players because they know he can threaten. With Emerson they literally allow him time and space because they're totally unconcerned about what he can do.

I can hardly think of another player in the league where a viable opposition plan is: let the cr*p guy have as much of the ball as he wants

You forgot Sanchez!

 

[PrettyColors]

He has 6 weeks to impress Conte while the WC is on. #12 isn’t going to Qatar either so AC can evaluate them side by side perfectly.

If by January, he isn’t playing regularly and #12 still is, I can only assume that Conte will never play him and he needs to go out on loan. Huge 6 weeks for him, all behind the scenes in training. We’re all rooting for you Djed.

 

[Ginola+Tonic]

He’s deleted all things associated to Tottenham on his socials and his bio describing him as a Tottenham player.
Something gone on behind the scenes perhaps ??‍

Not a great look whatever the reason

 

[Chirpystheman]

Djed spence removing all insta posts except one and all reference of Spurs. May be nothing.

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

He’s deleted all things associated to Tottenham on his socials and his bio describing him as a Tottenham player.
Something gone on behind the scenes perhaps ??‍

Not a great look whatever the reason

Jadon sancho did the same black out thing a few days ago

 

[Ginola+Tonic]

Jadon sancho did the same black out thing a few days ago

What’s the black out for?

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

What’s the black out for?

??‍

 

[mil1lion]

I'm not sure I would pay too much attention with all that's going on with Twitter now

 

[McFlash]

He has 6 weeks to impress Conte while the WC is on. #12 isn’t going to Qatar either so AC can evaluate them side by side perfectly.

If by January, he isn’t playing regularly and #12 still is, I can only assume that Conte will never play him and he needs to go out on loan. Huge 6 weeks for him, all behind the scenes in training. We’re all rooting for you Djed.

Sorry, but are you refusing to use Royal's name and referring to him as #12 instead?
If so, and if you don't have a sensible reason for this, it's incredibly childish and simply a massive dick move, utterly disgusting behaviour towards one of our players.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[PrettyColors]

Sorry, but are you refusing to use Royal's name and referring to him as #12 instead?
If so, and if you don't have a sensible reason for this, it's incredibly childish and simply a massive dick move, utterly disgusting behaviour towards one of our players.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Disgusting behavior? I’ve never called him a donkey or any of the other (much worse) insults being thrown at him by our fans… but you choose to come after me, calling him #12 after an embarrassing performance is childish, disgusting and a dick move?

What did I say in my post that was wrong?

Emerson Royal the person is a great guy and a person I truly wish to succeed. However the #12 playing at RB for Tottenham Hotspur is our biggest liability. Hope that helps.

 

[McFlash]

Disgusting behavior? I’ve never called him a donkey or any of the other (much worse) insults being thrown at him by our fans… but you choose to come after me, calling him #12 after an embarrassing performance is childish, disgusting and a dick move?

What did I say in my post that was wrong?

Emerson Royal the person is a great guy and a person I truly wish to succeed. However the #12 playing at RB for Tottenham Hotspur is our biggest liability. Hope that helps.

That fact that you appear to refuse to call him by his name is pretty pathetic, in my opinion.
It's just rude and disrespectful, especially for a player you "truly wish to succeed".
So yeah, I do think it's childish and disgusting behaviour mate.

 

[PrettyColors]

That fact that you appear to refuse to call him by his name is pretty pathetic, in my opinion.
It's just rude and disrespectful, especially for a player you "truly wish to succeed".
So yeah, I do think it's childish and disgusting behaviour mate.

Grow up. We will be better off as a club if Spence is in the RWB position, end of. ?

 

[wrd]

Grow up. We will be better off as a club if Spence is in the RB position, end of. ?

You are deciding to call a person by their number because you don't like how they're performing. Not sure grow up can be thrown out externally mate.

 

[McFlash]

Grow up. We will be better off as a club if Spence is in the RWB position, end of. ?

And you're telling me to grow up?!
Funny fucker.

 

[PrettyColors]

You are deciding to call a person by their number because you don't like how they're performing. Not sure grow up can be thrown out externally mate.

And you're telling me to grow up?!
Funny fucker.

I’ve said nothing insulting about Emerson in my post, unlike the other 95% of this place, and yet you lot are having a go at me, because I want to see our £20m English signing play some minutes over an obviously underperforming player.

The defense of Royal is actually weird at this point, he’s being treated like he has a disability and its uncouth to point it out… So you go after me for a simple phrasing of a post. Royal is a fine squad player but I feel we will NOT achieve our ambitions with him at RWB. Spence was our big RB signing in the summer, let’s find out what we have there.

 

[McFlash]

I’ve said nothing insulting about Emerson in my post, unlike the other 95% of this place, and yet you lot are having a go at me, because I want to see our £20m English signing play some minutes over an obviously underperforming player.

The defense of Royal is actually weird at this point, he’s being treated like he has a disability and its uncouth to point it out… So you go after me for a simple phrasing of a post. Royal is a fine squad player but I feel we will NOT achieve our ambitions with him at RWB. Spence was our big RB signing in the summer, let’s find out what we have there.

It's not about Spence, nor is is it about Emerson, it's about the fact that you referred to Royal by his number instead of his name.
If you don't think that's massively disrespectful to a player in our colours, well, I don't think I really need to say anything else because we're on a different wavelength.

 

[A Bit Much]

I think Emerson is a pretty poor player, and will have criticised him in the past, but it's an uncomfortable environment these days over him.

Can we get together as a fan base and start backing him, or at least not being so hostile? He isn't the enemy FFS.