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Finchyid

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Put in a few good crosses yesterday that no one got on the end of, one of which was a free header that was put just wide. Thing is when you become the internet scapegoat, it's only ever the negatives that are taken into account.

He also put the ball into Kane for the 1st goal was involved in the second and flicked on for rich when Sess should have scored....People forget this
 
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FibreOpticJesus

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I don't rate him, nor do I think he was so poor last night that he needed this many pages added to his thread. Dier gave away a goal and I don't even see his thread on the first page. Sessegnon made an awful mistake in the first 10 minutes of the game that lead to a quick Frankfurt attack, yet it didn't lead to a goal from a corner so we aren't blowing up over it.

I agree that we really could do with a top notch RWB and with Emerson's lack of attacking ability I do want to see Spence given a shot.
None of us are saying he is not allowed a mistake. It’s the plethora of issues as I posted last night. Whilst I don’t condone verbal abuse of any of our players I was frustratingly tested last night. I’m not saying Doherty or Spence are better it’s that Emerson is not getting any better and his failings were really highlighted last night.
 

Hercules

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From memory this is probably the second time ( I think) I have been negative with Emerson. I am not one for slating our players, and I do not boo them etc in games.

Being athletic, and looking athletic is two separate things to me. Having a good engine, getting up and down, and around the pitch is another thing. It is what do you do when you get there?

What football technical disciplines do you manifest. The position you okay in, what overall do you offer? On this I base my own opinions. I do not have an agenda with him. He just simply is not good enough unfortunately. And for those believing he is, well that is your opinion. He almost cost us last night, and so did Dier.

If we are aiming to higher things then Emerson is not it. He is the very weak link in the first 11. He has had good to decent games, and I have credited him for it. However, he has too many flaws. And I stick to what I said.

I respect every most (majority). It does not mean we will always agree. Because we don’t agree, it does not mean I will question ‘bias’. Not necessarily that you may have one, but it may parade as such.
 

dudu

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From memory this is probably the second time ( I think) I have been negative with Emerson. I am not one for slating our players, and I do not boo them etc in games.

Being athletic, and looking athletic is two separate things to me. Having a good engine, getting up and down, and around the pitch is another thing. It is what do you do when you get there?

What football technical disciplines do you manifest. The position you okay in, what overall do you offer? On this I base my own opinions. I do not have an agenda with him. He just simply is not good enough unfortunately. And for those believing he is, well that is your opinion. He almost cost us last night, and so did Dier.

If we are aiming to higher things then Emerson is not it. He is the very weak link in the first 11. He has had good to decent games, and I have credited him for it. However, he has too many flaws. And I stick to what I said.

I respect every most (majority). It does not mean we will always agree. Because we don’t agree, it does not mean I will question ‘bias’. Not necessarily that you may have one, but it may parade as such.

Even the best players cost us points. Our world class strikers have nearly cost us with their awful passing and finishing this season.

Yes, he has flaws and of course he needs to improve aspects of his game but writing him off completely and not giving him time and patience to evolve and improve is shortsighted.

Tripper is one of the best RBs in the league and many here claimed him to be not good enough, same with Kyle Walker. People claimed to see their weaknesses and claimed they were not good enough for us and we're wrong.
 

Trix

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He also put the ball into Kane for the 1st goal was involved in the second and flicked on for rich when Sess should have scored....People forget this
Forgotten? Nah, not even acknowledged.

Could he be upgraded? Absolutely, but can anyone in here say with any degree of certainty that one of our alternatives for the role are currently in better shape to play? Absolutely not. So if Conte thinks he's the best option right now be it for fitness or tactical reasons so be it. End of the day he's the one that see's all of them every day of the week in training, has access to their medical/fitness information, and is aware of what he wants that RWB to first and foremost be.
 

Hercules

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Even the best players cost us points. Our world class strikers have nearly cost us with their awful passing and finishing this season.

Yes, he has flaws and of course he needs to improve aspects of his game but writing him off completely and not giving him time and patience to evolve and improve is shortsighted.

Tripper is one of the best RBs in the league and many here claimed him to be not good enough, same with Kyle Walker. People claimed to see their weaknesses and claimed they were not good enough for us and we're wrong.
I respect your comments. I came to this conclusion recently. Writing him off may seem harsh. But it is based upon the factors I have previously stated. In my opinion He just is not, and will not be good enough as a RWB for us.
 
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Trix

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I respect your comments. I came to this conclusion recently. Writing him off msy seem harsh. But it is based upon the factors I have previously stated. In my opinion Hr just is not, and will not be good enough as a RWB for us.

You may well be right, I'm of a similar opinion from what I've seen so far. That doesn't mean he isn't currently the best option for the position though.
 

JimmyG2

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I love it, love it
that Jenas after years of abuse on here
is now a highly paid pundit
to rate the performances of others.
 

Metalhead

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You may well be right, I'm of a similar opinion from what I've seen so far. That doesn't mean he isn't currently the best option for the position though.
And evidently Conte feels the same!
 

Japhet

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100%, his biggest issue right now is he is not the unknown enigma that is Djed Spence.

Every player should be watched and judged objectively on their strengths and weakness. To write Emersons entire game off as poor is laughable and in all honesty, makes me question the objective judgement of the poster, not the player.

Very true. The fact remains though that the majority on here have only had glimpses of Spence, and the one that naturally springs to mind is when he tore Martinelli and Arsenal a new one in the Cup last season. That's the version of Spence that everybody wants to see, but with no idea if he'll be able to supply it.
 

Trix

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I love it, love it
that Jenas after years of abuse on here
is now a highly paid pundit
to rate the performances of others.
Jenas was another player that was nowhere near as bad as some fans made out. JJ's biggest problem was that he won PFA young player of the year, and then never really lived up to the hype that was put upon him. I always felt like he was capable of more, but he was a solid 6 out of 10 player even when he left you feeling a little short changed.
 

Trix

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Very true. The fact remains though that the majority on here have only had glimpses of Spence, and the one that naturally springs to mind is when he tore Martinelli and Arsenal a new one in the Cup last season. That's the version of Spence that everybody wants to see, but with no idea if he'll be able to supply it.
He did, can't argue with that, but that was in a system where his role was to deal with one v ones. Conte is about the team collective defensively, and every man moving together to deny the space. Being good in your 1v's is a great skill( Emerson does this well also tbf) but it's not going to get you into the team.
 

southlondonyiddo

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Jenas was another player that was nowhere near as bad as some fans made out. JJ's biggest problem was that he won PFA young player of the year, and then never really lived up to the hype that was put upon him. I always felt like he was capable of more, but he was a solid 6 out of 10 player even when he left you feeling a little short changed.
6 is harsh - did so much dirty work which went unnoticed

Problem was his lack of belief. When you can stick a ball top bins at the emirates in the 94th min having run half the length of the pitch and beaten 2/3 players, we’d like to see a lot more of where that came from!!
 

Cochise

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Can we also clear up who lost the man for the corner? Because I thought it was Bissouma who was meant to be marking the goal scorer.
 

Trix

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Can we also clear up who lost the man for the corner? Because I thought it was Bissouma who was meant to be marking the goal scorer.
Ran clear past Skipp, though not sure he was designated to mark him or if that was just his default zonal position.
 

wadewill

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As soon as someone calls a professional footballer playing in the top league in the world 'shit' I switch off too.

These players are in the very top percentile of people in their profession. Even if they don't make it with us they are still Uber talented and have earned the right to be talked about as such.
Completely disagree with this mate, I don't think there is one person that genuinely means "they are shit and I'm better" when referring to professional players

The comment is more in relation to Tottenham Hotspur
 

Rosco1984

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Limitations going forward still but athleticism is brilliant and his defending tonight was fantastic, can see why conte is picking him as best option right now especially in tough CL games.
His defending gave away the corner needlessly and then got out jumped from it leading to us conceeding agaisnt 10 men then being utterly panicked for the last 5 minutes. He also gave away possesion 15 times. Not giving your opposition the ball in dangerous areas is also part of defending. I wouldn't describe that as fantastic personally.
 
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