Player Watch: Emerson Royal

[mil1lion]

People were moaning everytime he got the ball and didn't pass forward. You have to have someone to pass forward too though. Our biggest issue is missing Kulusevski in front of him. Richarlison is very poor on the right and neither he or Moura are great facing towards Emerson to receive the ball. Kulusevski is the only one who has that intelligence and ability to hold the ball and turn players. When you miss him then you need the right wing back to be able to carry the ball instead. Similar to our left side, Son can't hold the ball up but Perisic and Sess are natural wing backs who can drive forward.

I still see similarities to playing Davies at wing back. I think he would suit better right centre back as cover. I think we'll look far better when Kulusevski is on that side though.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

People were moaning everytime he got the ball and didn't pass forward. You have to have someone to pass forward too though. Our biggest issue is missing Kulusevski in front of him. Richarlison is very poor on the right and neither he or Moura are great facing towards Emerson to receive the ball. Kulusevski is the only one who has that intelligence and ability to hold the ball and turn players. When you miss him then you need the right wing back to be able to carry the ball instead. Similar to our left side, Son can't hold the ball up but Perisic and Sess are natural wing backs who can drive forward.

I still see similarities to playing Davies at wing back. I think he would suit better right centre back as cover. I think we'll look far better when Kulusevski is on that side though.

This 1000% times ?!

Richarlison left his mate out to dry he was running narrow inside and unless Emerson turned into prime pirlo he had no chance of finding him.

Kuluveski is clever he knows Emerson’s game and uses his strength to pin his man and get it to feet and turn our

 

[Hercules]

You might not rate him but this is just needless hyperbole. Poor technically, that's obvious. But he's parfectly capable positionally and athletically. In fact, he is one of our most athletic players - that is his key attribute.

A player who is solid defensively in no way weakens us.

You have your views, and I have mine. I backed him long enough. He is simply not good enough for what we need. That is not hyperbole. And I respectfully stick to what I said.

 

[Tarricko]

I think he would suit better right centre back as cover.

 

[DJS]

It kinda feels like we’re playing a centre back at right wing back.

He’d be good in a back four and would be interesting to see on right of back three but not at wing back.

 

[spids]

You have your views, and I have mine. I backed him long enough. He is simply not good enough for what we need. That is not hyperbole. And I respectfully stick to what I said.

Agree with @Hercules .

I do think Royal is a great athlete capable of running the right flank for the entire 90 mins in a way Doherty isn't right now (but that is why you have subs right?). I also think he misses Kulusevski more than anyone in the team. Royal defends pretty well and his greatest attribute is that he dominates the middle third of the right flank through athleticism and by always being available as an out ball. But the areas of his game I really dislike are:

1. He rarely gets his head up before he crosses the ball and nearly always chooses the wrong option. In the final third he is a liability at times.
2. He has zero composure in front of goal (as seen by some pretty bad misses once in a good position).
3. If he loses possession and feels he should have got a free kick he stays down pretending to be injured for a significant amount of time, meaning we have to defend two or three phases of an opponents attack with 10 men. That is unforgivable.

I totally understand why he started the season as number 1 choice RWB, Doherty returning from a serious injury and Spence is inexperienced and does not know Conte's system. However, I do not understand why Doherty and/or Spence have not had more minutes in the same manner that Perisic and Sessegnon have shared on the other flank, especially when Kulusevski is injured and we need more creativity in the final third.

I will always support players during a game, and am happy for Royal to be one of our RWBs in the squad. However, we need better if we want to win things. More creativity and more goals and assists from RWB (and LWB for that matter). When Sessegnon crossed for Doherty to score away at Leeds last season it felt like a corner had been turned. And it had until Doherty got injured away at Villa a few weeks later.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Nobody has an issue with criticising players, but when that takes on a life of it's own, when people start to see things that aren't there and stretch events on the pitch to unbelievable levels in order to hang something around the players neck, then you end up with multiple pages of arguing. I've seen at least three posters who only come on here to post OTT and made up moans. I'm not kidding, it's the only thing they do. And it kicks it all off.

Literally every time he is picked, there are a block of people who will leap on anything at all to beat him with, they are just waiting for it. Sometimes they can't even wait. Game after game after game, the same people, the same bullshit, the same arguments. It's been this way with scapegoats for a long time, it's just how it is. But it's getting worse. You add up the over the top nature of it, the spite, the persistence, the repetitive nature of it, all from pretty much the same people, then it gets very VERY tiresome, worse, it makes reading threads a chore and it shouldn't be like that.

I know for a fact that it's driving people away, it's directly making SC less enjoyable for a LOT of people, perhaps a spell of COYS-like culling is needed

FWIW and from me that's not much, we all (ought to) understand it's a process. I can't see him being a part of the finished product (if Conte stays that long) so at some point someone 'better' will take his place in the team. But we can't fast forward that, it'll happen when it's seen as a priority and in turn, so until then, he's the managers choice and all the bitching in the world isn't going to change it. So for now, why not temper expectations a bit, understand that despite his limitations, real or imagined, he's part of a team that's made one of our best ever starts to a season so things aren't that bad and just ease off a bit on him. It'll do everyone and SC in general, the world of good.

bah, it'll never happen

 

[mil1lion]

I could maybe understand if we were losing games but for people to be so negative when the results are there is ridiculous. I mean if he were as bad as people make out then one of the worlds best managers would have left him out with Reguilon or we would be far lower in the table with him playing.

 

[dudu]

Kyle walker used to get so much stick on this forum. I have stopped listening to most people's 'opinions' on how they rate our players unless they can give a balanced view that includes some kind of support for said player

 

[Metalhead]

Kyle walker used to get so much stick on this forum. I have stopped listening to most people's 'opinions' on how they rate our players unless they can give a balanced view that includes some kind of support for said player

Obviously there is nothing wrong with criticism but it's the hyperbolic nature of it at times.

 

[dudu]

Obviously there is nothing wrong with criticism but it's the hyperbolic nature of it at times.

The funny thing about hyperbole is that people think they are getting their point across by exaggerating but it just makes others less likely to take what they have to say seriously.

 

[Metalhead]

The funny thing about hyperbole is that people think they are getting their point across by exaggerating but it just makes others less likely to take what they have to say seriously.

Oh totally. After the first insulting term, you just tend to switch off.

 

[dudu]

Oh totally. After the first insulting term, you just tend to switch off.

As soon as someone calls a professional footballer playing in the top league in the world 'shit' I switch off too.

These players are in the very top percentile of people in their profession. Even if they don't make it with us they are still Uber talented and have earned the right to be talked about as such.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Emerson is poor positionally, technically, athletically. Very simple for me, and I supported him long enough. He weakens us, and certainly does not strengthen us.

Not sure how anyone can say he’s poor athletically ? ! He has a serious engine, he runs up and down that wing all day long, decent pace, strong, has a good jump on him, his attacking play and decision making need work but defensively he is solid and athletically he’s almost perfect for the RWB role.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

You might not rate him but this is just needless hyperbole. Poor technically, that's obvious. But he's parfectly capable positionally and athletically. In fact, he is one of our most athletic players - that is his key attribute.

A player who is solid defensively in no way weakens us.

Bang on mate ?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

As soon as someone calls a professional footballer playing in the top league in the world 'shit' I switch off too.

These players are in the very top percentile of people in their profession. Even if they don't make it with us they are still Uber talented and have earned the right to be talked about as such.

Apart from Rasiak ? he was proper pony.

Just joking though, you make a great point

 

[Trix]

Not sure how anyone can say he’s poor athletically ? ! He has a serious engine, he runs up and down that wing all day long, decent pace, strong, has a good jump on him, his attacking play and decision making need work but defensively he is solid and athletically he’s almost perfect for the RWB role.

100%, his biggest issue right now is he is not the unknown enigma that is Djed Spence.

Every player should be watched and judged objectively on their strengths and weakness. To write Emersons entire game off as poor is laughable and in all honesty, makes me question the objective judgement of the poster, not the player.

 

[Finchyid]

If you mean what would happen on SC, then you'd have to ask Hans Christian Andersen.

There are too many people who are just plain sour. All of the time. If it isn't Emerson, then it'd be someone else.

Usually Sanchez

 

[southlondonyiddo]

As soon as someone calls a professional footballer playing in the top league in the world 'shit' I switch off too.

These players are in the very top percentile of people in their profession. Even if they don't make it with us they are still Uber talented and have earned the right to be talked about as such.

mmmmmmm not sure about that - it’s subjective in comparison to other players and where we (supporters) would like to be, as a club

Anyone with half a brain knows they aren’t ‘shit’ - obviously they are in the top 0.001 or whatever % of the entire population and compared to 99.9% of keyboard warriors they are on a completely different planet and always will be

Still doesn’t mean someone can’t call them ‘shit’ especially if they have been, by comparison…

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

The funny thing about hyperbole is that people think they are getting their point across by exaggerating but it just makes others less likely to take what they have to say seriously.

This is it. It’s the complete lack of balance in judgement of players means they immediately lose credibility.