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Player Watch: Emerson Royal

cozzo

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Him being a Brazilian international has helped him to get in this position for us, however the reality is that he is not a very good footballer. Doesn’t seem to have control of the ball when he has it.
 

matthew.absurdum

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Sorry but just don’t agree at all that he ‘completely lacks any technical ability, technique or skill’, I’ve seen him bring the ball down out of the air with lovely touch and technique many times.

His passing is fine and his touch is good and his dribbling is ok.

The issue is really simple as said before that he is NOT a RWB! He’s never played in that position until this season. He is/was a fairly defensive right back. It’s like buying prime Gary Neville (a RIGHT BACK) and wondering why when you play him RWB is he underwhelming.

Im not saying he’s the best signing ever by any means but for me a lot on here criticising him don’t quite understand that RB and RWB are very different positions which require different skillsets.

Emerson is for now the best option we have at RWB, he’s 23 and can improve but conte is no idiot and he will know that Emerson at RWB is not the answer if we want to win things so we will for sure look to upgrade in summer.

Interestingly, Tomiyasu, the player we clearly targeted before we turned to Emerson, is also a RB (& RCB) instead of RWB. I think it is quite similar to the reason why we bought Bryan Gil. These players are for Nuno to play 4-3-3, not 3-5-2 or 3-4-3
 

Aphex

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Sorry but just don’t agree at all that he ‘completely lacks any technical ability, technique or skill’, I’ve seen him bring the ball down out of the air with lovely touch and technique many times.

His passing is fine and his touch is good and his dribbling is ok.

The issue is really simple as said before that he is NOT a RWB! He’s never played in that position until this season. He is/was a fairly defensive right back. It’s like buying prime Gary Neville (a RIGHT BACK) and wondering why when you play him RWB is he underwhelming.

Im not saying he’s the best signing ever by any means but for me a lot on here criticising him don’t quite understand that RB and RWB are very different positions which require different skillsets.

Emerson is for now the best option we have at RWB, he’s 23 and can improve but conte is no idiot and he will know that Emerson at RWB is not the answer if we want to win things so we will for sure look to upgrade in summer.

He looks extremely clumsy on the ball. Like he’s never really in control of it. He’s also very rigid, with no finesse or agility.

His dribbling is awful! How can you say ok? One of his biggest weaknesses!

The more I see the more I don’t rate it feels like
 

IfiHadTheWings

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He was so poor i ended up just chuckling at the thought of the 30m we have laid out on him and the fact that literally it has been a step down to each fullback since Walker Proper Tottenham performance that.
 

hellava_tough

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Apr 21, 2005
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Sorry but just don’t agree at all that he ‘completely lacks any technical ability, technique or skill’, I’ve seen him bring the ball down out of the air with lovely touch and technique many times.

His passing is fine and his touch is good and his dribbling is ok.

The issue is really simple as said before that he is NOT a RWB! He’s never played in that position until this season. He is/was a fairly defensive right back. It’s like buying prime Gary Neville (a RIGHT BACK) and wondering why when you play him RWB is he underwhelming.

Im not saying he’s the best signing ever by any means but for me a lot on here criticising him don’t quite understand that RB and RWB are very different positions which require different skillsets.

Emerson is for now the best option we have at RWB, he’s 23 and can improve but conte is no idiot and he will know that Emerson at RWB is not the answer if we want to win things so we will for sure look to upgrade in summer.

I disagree with this.

The only difference between RB and RWB, in terms of skillsets, is a player's positioning in relation to the team formation and game plan.

Professional footballers are expected to be able to understand where a manager wants them on a pitch and who to mark, depending on the manager's tactics.

So even this difference shouldn't be all that unusual for a player.
 

Wsussexspur

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I’m desperately trying to give him time. As feel he was last minute summer transfer, new to the country, doesn’t speak the language, been unsettling time at the club with the mess we have been in for past 6 months. Also being that it can take players a season to adapt to the premier league.

However with each performance he is really pushing that patience! I think last night has to be his worst performance so far. Struggled to pass the ball to a team mate, the amount of times he lost the ball in the attacking third when not under pressure from Southampton players was alarming. He played reasonable well on Saturday night, would have thought he would have been full of confidence going into last nights game. But he looked a bag of nerves everytime the ball came near him.
 

sidford

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Like a number of our poorer players if he plays alongside better players he won't look as bad. Him and Sanchez together on the right of defence can be a car crash like it was last night. If dier was in middle and Romero right he wouldn't look as bad as Romero wouldn't be caught out as often as Sanchez.

It's same problem we've had for years, too many average (at best) players are getting too many starts for us and no team who wants to progress can do that.
 

glacierSpurs

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Him being a Brazilian international has helped him to get in this position for us, however the reality is that he is not a very good footballer. Doesn’t seem to have control of the ball when he has it.
It's amazing Brazil has produced legendary Cafu, Alves, Carlos etc but still have the occasional blips of Gilberto and Emerson. One would have thought they shouldn't even make it more than 5-10 caps for the international team and yet they do.
 

glacierSpurs

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Interesting read from a Barcelona perspective when then signed him in the summer.

So far really do not recognise that it’s the same player described here that we signed.
I only read the first sentence of each point and it took me courage to progress:

#5 Crossing
The young right-back is just extremely well drilled at crossing the ball.

#4 Overlapping
The Brazilian is extremely good at overlapping midfielders in order to make a cross or a pass into the box or create a particular chance.

#3 Passing
The former Real Betis loanee is a gorgeous passer of the ball and if there is one thing Barca looks for in a player then that’s their passing.

#4 (sic) should be #2, Ball progressor
The Brazilian is a right-back, hence it means that he’s got to be a good ball carrier or progressor.

#5 (sic) should be #1, Defending
Arguably the most important impressive characteristic of Emerson would be his defending capabilities.

?‍♂️?‍♂️?‍♂️
 

dannyo

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It's hard not to feel at least an element of sympathy for him as his confidence must be shot but his performance last night was as bad as it gets. He's like the guy in your average office who's been promoted way beyond his capabilities and now stares in disbelief at his payslip every month. He lives in a state of constant fear of being found out and yet also longs for the day when he's sent one too many incomprehensible emails to the whole company or delivered yet another toe-curlingly embarrassing presentation and his friendly manager, realising he's made a horrible mistake, takes him to one side and says, "Come on Emerson, mate. Enough's enough. Let's get you out of here."
 

Oh Teddy Teddy

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I’m desperately trying to give him time. As feel he was last minute summer transfer, new to the country, doesn’t speak the language, been unsettling time at the club with the mess we have been in for past 6 months. Also being that it can take players a season to adapt to the premier league.

However with each performance he is really pushing that patience! I think last night has to be his worst performance so far. Struggled to pass the ball to a team mate, the amount of times he lost the ball in the attacking third when not under pressure from Southampton players was alarming. He played reasonable well on Saturday night, would have thought he would have been full of confidence going into last nights game. But he looked a bag of nerves everytime the ball came near him.

I’d agree with this – the balanced view on ER is that he’s one of our youngest players still, he’s in a new league, a new team and a new country at, what, 22/23 years of age? He’s already featuring under his second manager here in a position he wasn’t really signed for, and he’s struggled for form.

Last night was surely his worst performance from us, but it has followed on immediately from what was arguably his best performance for us, and I massively expected that inconsistency from a young player – a player who we were told again and again by experts when he joined that his skill was still extremely raw.

The problem I have is that it’s fine to keep him on, as a rotation player perhaps, but he can't be starting for us every game; and the deeper problem is that his replacement is Matt Doherty, who’s also not good enough. Really needed more experience and talent in this role, but I certainly wouldn't expect the club to give up on him so soon.
 

he is you know!

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He was so poor i ended up just chuckling at the thought of the 30m we have laid out on him and the fact that literally it has been a step down to each fullback since Walker Proper Tottenham performance that.

The money may not have been well spent but it was £20m/25me all in as per Barca's own website.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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He may be better than Doherty defensively but that is all. Barca must be laughing at us.
I don’t even think that’s true either though. His defending for the first goal was utterly criminal. The way he let the ball run across his body demonstrated his total lack of awareness to anything going on around him. People can rightfully point the finger at Davies for his poor clearance but at least that was an accident. Emerson chose to let the ball run across the box.
 

GutBucket

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Back 3 formations don't work if your WB can't attack, may as well go for 433, 4231 or 442 if he plays.
 

hellava_tough

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It's amazing Brazil has produced legendary Cafu, Alves, Carlos etc but still have the occasional blips of Gilberto and Emerson. One would have thought they shouldn't even make it more than 5-10 caps for the international team and yet they do.

A lot of dross has come out of Brazil over the last 30 years.

Average or poor players have the label 'Brazilian' attached to them and their value and mystique increases.

But they're basically Jonjo Shelvey or Chris Wood with an exotic sounding name :LOL:

And I'm pretty sure the Brazilian national team compound this problem by handing out international caps like smarties.
 
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