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Player Watch: Emerson Royal

McFlash

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You have a good heart I'll give you that.

I just like being a self righteous sanctimonious prick.
I'm sure I've made plenty of daft comments in my umpteen years on here, hopefully I've learnt from them over time and can be a little more balanced now.
Hopefully the posters you have noted can also do the same.

A lot of it can come from emotion and not thought out before being posted (although some of the shite Emerson had to put up with cannot be excused by being "emotional at the time").
Although I'm sure a fair amount of it can just be put down to people being dicks!
 

-Afri-Coy-

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I'm sure I've made plenty of daft comments in my umpteen years on here, hopefully I've learnt from them over time and can be a little more balanced now.
Hopefully the posters you have noted can also do the same.

A lot of it can come from emotion and not thought out before being posted (although some of the shite Emerson had to put up with cannot be excused by being "emotional at the time").
Although I'm sure a fair amount of it can just be put down to people being dicks!

I’ve been guilty of the same, I think we all let our emotions get ahead of us at times and it leads to things being said that are completely out of character for most sane people. That’s what football will do to you.

My original post was a joke anyway, I just took a couple snaps for the wall of shame as proof that no matter how bad you’re perceived to be playing, hard work and effort can turn any situation around. I won’t publicly shame anyone for their reactions.

It will also motivate me to think twice before posting something silly myself when the bloods get a little too warm.
 

McFlash

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I’ve been guilty of the same, I think we all let our emotions get ahead of us at times and it leads to things being said that are completely out of character for most sane people. That’s what football will do to you.

My original post was a joke anyway, I just took a couple snaps for the wall of shame as proof that no matter how bad you’re perceived to be playing, hard work and effort can turn any situation around. I won’t publicly shame anyone for their reactions.

It will also motivate me to think twice before posting something silly myself when the bloods get a little too warm.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm massively curious to see who was being the biggest dick back then! ?
 

mil1lion

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It's more important these comments and negative energy it brings are eliminated from the stadium. I'm going to the Milan game , my last was Pompey in the cup and Villa before where things felt a bit toxic. I'm hoping the mood is better now but I guess the next 2 results will play a role. What I hated was how some fans would be on his back from minute 1 rather than give him a chance. It was the minority though but they were heard more because there were a lot of quiet spells. If the atmosphere is good then it drown them out.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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It's more important these comments and negative energy it brings are eliminated from the stadium. I'm going to the Milan game , my last was Pompey in the cup and Villa before where things felt a bit toxic. I'm hoping the mood is better now but I guess the next 2 results will play a role. What I hated was how some fans would be on his back from minute 1 rather than give him a chance. It was the minority though but they were heard more because there were a lot of quiet spells. If the atmosphere is good then it drown them out.

This 110%

I see the fans who go to the stadium as our 12th man. Sometimes I wish we could be as loud and passionate as the Dortmund fans are for example, they don’t stop for the full 90. That has a tremendous effect on the players and pushes them to never give up.

It’s a dream of mine to watch a game live one day so maybe my view is a bit biased compared to someone who can go to the stadium as a weekend activity, but that reality is still a blessing to those that can and it should be treated as one. I know how bat shit I would go just to be there for a single match.
 

JollyHappy

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I've done the liberty of grabbing just 10 of the comments from after the derby in October, would it be petty to call some of these morons out?
I really would like you to show these on here and it would be good if each of the posters then apologised and accepted that they made a mistake,
 

Montalbano

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He’s improved exponentially, and has taken abuse from many for some shocking performances in the past (myself included, however it’s been exclusive to moaning about him over the internet rather than jeering at the stadium from me).. but calling him the club’s greatest ever right back after a handful of good performances is the other extreme of this spectrum, lmao. He’s been great, but let’s relax a bit.

Seems like a top bloke though, long may his form continue.
 

soflapaul

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Ashamed of themselves?! Dry your eyes. When players aren't playing well enough, the fans have every right to voice their opinions. Always have, always will.

Also, are you telling me our wonderful coaches are beyond reproach? Never made a wrong call on a player? Blimey, the last couple of decades must have been riddled with success in that case...
absolutely have the right to but others have the right to throw it back at them especially when the level of criticism was OTT. And i would hope we could agree that there is a difference between criticism and what was done to Emerson in here and on the pitch. What makes it especially moronic is that it is counterproductive to what people want to happen. Some players need more "approval" than others. You could boo Roy Keane, call him a wanker or whatever you wanted and it wouldn't have made a lick of difference in his performance. Few players are like that and others, like Emerson are on the other end of the spectrum. Ultimately, the ones who "misjudged" him in terms of potential (as opposed who criticized him for performance) showed how little they really understand an incredibly important part of the game, player psychology.
 

HNIM

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From that compilation his confidence must be sky high, as he’s playing with that calm swagger reminiscent of Romero.
I think that's the key change. For the last month, he's played with intent: quick reactions, quick decisions. That was missing six months ago. He's been able to make the game slow down in his head.
 

G Ron

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Also, it feels like people never learn the lesson that players performance ebbs and flows over time and that it takes a certain amount of time and certain conditions for a player to perform at their peak and this can come crashing down at any moment.

This happens time and time again, with players like Sancho, Maguire, Mudryk etc. all on a current low point that will improve in the future. Hell, Rashford is the best example of this, the Man U fans wanted him gone last year and look at him now.

Being so hyper reactionary and scapegoating a player so harshly almost always ends up leaving egg on your face as form picks up or goes down.
He had some really poor matches, but I think the whole Spence situation led to much of the angst aimed at Royal. Many fans thinking Spence was going to be the second coming of Walker and so wanted him in the side at Royal’s expense. I’m sure it was a factor.

I was vocal on here about Royal’s poor performances, but the way he was treated in the stadium disgusted me - I even had words with a few fellas in the seats around me for booing him.

keep up the good work Emerson!!!!
 

parj

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It's quite amusing how many more people are sticking up for him now he playing well. But where was this when he was struggling and the abuse was insane. I have said for a while he didn't become bad, he was a good player at Betis and Barca.

Once we get more attacking rhythm going, Emerson will start racking up the assists. Will also help when more than two players attack the box.
 

McFlash

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Oct 19, 2005
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It's quite amusing how many more people are sticking up for him now he playing well. But where was this when he was struggling and the abuse was insane. I have said for a while he didn't become bad, he was a good player at Betis and Barca.

Once we get more attacking rhythm going, Emerson will start racking up the assists. Will also help when more than two players attack the box.
I don't think more of us are defending him, it's the same amount of us as before, it's just that those aimlessly slagging him off have all gone very quiet.
 

SpursSince1980

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Out of curiosity, does anyone feel that Sess has the grit/ability to make a similar turn around as Emerson?

Personally, I don't see it. Emerson's turnaround is a tiny bit surprising. But you could always see his work rate and commitment was strong. So the foundation was there.

I'm yet to see that from Sess. I badly want him to get over his tragic run of injuries. But right now, even when fit, he is so tentative and lacks the basic fundamentals that gave Emerson the chance to better himself.

Regardless, I'm very happy for him. And I hope this isn't a question of form, but rather, he's simply gone up a level. And this is what we will always see from now on.
 

McFlash

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Page 170 onwards has some truly beautiful spectacles of stupidity
Curiosity got the better of me. ?
Amazing how the same old names always leap to the fore, almost like they love to be complete fucking drama queens, about anything and everything!
 

jolsnogross

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He's been great these last 3 matches or so. He's playing with a smile too and you can see he's enjoying himself. THe clip above of his Chelsea performance showed he had everyone down their left in his pocket, which gave him freedom to move higher up the field. Especially impressive in defence when their wing back looked to have a run on him in the box but he recovered. Especially good in possession and attack by being calm, making the right choices, and one really high quality cross

He was also terrible previously. His wayward passing and decision making were really bad. Being good now and previously terrible can be both true. The big thing for us is that it was bad form, not a bad player, which I suspected he was. He's proving me wrong and long may that continue. Lots of folks put his bad form down to being ill-suited to wing-back in a 5 rather than a full-back in a back 4. That turns out to be nonsense too (albeit we haven't seen him for us in a 4 yet). He looks great at wing back now with his dynamism and dominance on the right side of the field (inside and wide).
 
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