Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

[RickyVilla]

Post match threads should be locked until people have had time to cool down a bit.

Itz bantz bruv (I believe that means it's all a bit of a laugh but am still not sure)

 

[Metalhead]

And they all crawl out from under whatever rock they having been hiding under.

F&%ks sake, it's honestly embarrassing isn't it.

 

[Gollorius]

Lloris is a good goal keeper no doubt but definitely not as great as some Spurs fans think. Certainly don't believe in that world class bollocks. His kicking is also very bad.

But again finding a better goalkeeper than him is equally a difficult task.His shot stopping ability is second to none.

It was certainly not a knee jerk reaction from my side as I always had same opinion about him.

It's frustrating because he is that kind of a goalkeeper that can win you the title but can also lose you the title.

Agree with the above. His distribution has always been bad, and it sometimes ends up like it did today. He rounded it off nicely by letting it through him.

 

[Gb160]

Not really venting, its a fairly reasoned argument. It wouldn't make much sense coming out and saying Lloris is overrated after we've just beaten Watford 4-0 or something. And yes you're right, plenty of keepers make more mistakes than Lloris, but not the top top ones, hence me suggesting he may not be one of them.

What argument? That he's the best keeper in the league?...I'm not sure that many people have said that, he's one of the best, and making an error that cost us points in one game isn't going to change that.

 

[Metalhead]

Itz bantz bruv (I believe that means it's all a bit of a laugh but am still not sure)

I'm not even sure mate, I hope so!

 

[Saoirse]

Can u give some examples?
It's getting negged because it's complete bollox written in the heat of the moment by someone who's had a few beers.

Mate, if I could type that coherently after a few beers I'd be well pleased!

Nobody's addressing the actual point. His distribution is very poor, and he's made a number of serious errors (single-handily gifting points to the opposition) in big games. I don't really think that's particularly controversial.

 

[Metalhead]

What argument? That he's the best keeper in the league?...I'm not sure that many people have said that, he's one of the best, and making an error that cost us points in one game isn't going to change that.

I don't know if it's the day and age we live in or maybe it's always been like that but it's exacerbated by social media but I seriously reckon that some fans would quite willingly see a player dropped after one or two mistakes in a game.

 

[We need another Hoddle]

Without doubt Lloris is a good keeper,but his distribution is close to poor and you really can't being letting goals like today in,you just can't. I would have been happy if we had bought Pickford

 

[Gassin's finest]

Sigh

 

[Saoirse]

What argument? That he's the best keeper in the league?...I'm not sure that many people have said that, he's one of the best, and making an error that cost us points in one game isn't going to change that.

Errors costing us those points every season, and against direct competitors, certainly does. He's good, but he's far from among the best. De Gea and Courtois are clearly ahead of him, and given his age I think Pickford would've at the least been an interesting option before he signed for Everton.

 

[Shadydan]

Without doubt Lloris is a good keeper,but his distribution is close to poor and you really can't being letting goals like today in,you just can't. I would have been happy if we had bought Pickford

Why, to spend £30m on a keeper to be behind Lloris?

 

[Gb160]

Mate, if I could type that coherently after a few beers I'd be well pleased!

Nobody's addressing the actual point. His distribution is very poor, and he's made a number of serious errors (single-handily gifting points to the opposition) in big games. I don't really think that's particularly controversial.

You're completely ignoring the fact that's the way he is being asked to play...any keeper could hit it long every single time but he's making sure we keep possession 99.9% of the time, look at his distribution stats if you can be bothered, one of the most accurate in the league.
It's a myth that it's poor, go and check and we'll continue this discussion when you come back mate.

 

[Francis Gibbs]

Questions rightly to be asked ... at fault for both goals today

What in Gods name could he have done about the first one?

Poorly positioned ball was at least couple of foot from the post

 

[Gb160]

Poorly positioned ball was at least couple of foot from the post

Get a grip man, when it's hit that hard and into the corner,missing the wall, no keepers saving it.

 

[Saoirse]

You're completely ignoring the fact that's the way he is being asked to play...any keeper could hit it long every single time but he's making sure we keep possession 99.9% of the time, look at his distribution stats if you can be bothered, one of the most accurate in the league.
It's a myth that it's poor, go and check and we'll continue this discussion when you come back mate.

I'm familiar with the stats. Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean you need to be condescending. His accuracy is generally fine, but the issue is his decision making. He has a nasty habit of distributing to players who aren't ready for the ball, or who are under immediate pressure in dangerous positions. I get that part of this is a measured risk, but he really should be better than his is at evaluating when the situation dictates he shouldn't take those risks given his experience.

Today is a prime example. He found Wanyama and the stats will show it was a good ball out. In reality he played it to a player who was exhausted, half fit, deep and centrally positioned, and with men on him. That's a recipe for disaster and led to the Chelsea chance.

 

[shoggy33]

What argument? That he's the best keeper in the league?...I'm not sure that many people have said that, he's one of the best, and making an error that cost us points in one game isn't going to change that.

I don't know if it's the day and age we live in or maybe it's always been like that but it's exacerbated by social media but I seriously reckon that some fans would quite willingly see a player dropped after one or two mistakes in a game.

Yeh the sooner we get Gazzaniga in the better.....

Just to clarify i am in no way saying he should be dropped, or isnt good enough for us. He is a fine goalkeeper, by far our best since I've been following the club. I just honestly believe he makes too many mistakes, and shouldn't be above criticism for that

 

[Kiedis]

I just felt he should have been a cool head when others were filled with adrenaline. We managed to claw back to 1-1, we have Dembele absolutely knackered after a long sprint home, the rest of the team is disorganised and Wanyama has been breathing out of his arse since the 60th minute.

Textbook example of a situation where a veteran like Lloris should be calming things down and make sure the team was organised before restarting the game.

That was more annoying than the ball slipping past him. I'd like him to be a bit more stoic in some instances.

 

[Metalhead]

Yeh the sooner we get Gazzaniga in the better.....

Just to clarify i am in no way saying he should be dropped, or isnt good enough for us. He is a fine goalkeeper, by far our best since I've been following the club. I just honestly believe he makes too many mistakes, and shouldn't be above criticism for that

Oh no way, of course not. Even Kane isn't above criticism. It's just the 'yeah, I never rated him much' brigade that are baffling me.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Without doubt Lloris is a good keeper,but his distribution is close to poor and you really can't being letting goals like today in,you just can't. I would have been happy if we had bought Pickford

You say this but statistics actually back up he's got one of the best distribution in the league. For a team who play out from the back, like we do, he is actually decent. Most keepers hoof it out because they don't have the ability or confidence to play passes out from the back like Hugo - Hart, Foster, Mignotlet, Cech, to name a few, can't do what Hugo does.

 

[Gb160]

I'm familiar with the stats. Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean you need to be condescending. His accuracy is generally fine, but the issue is his decision making. He has a nasty habit of distributing to players who aren't ready for the ball, or who are under immediate pressure in dangerous positions. I get that part of this is a measured risk, but he really should be better than his is at evaluating when the situation dictates he shouldn't take those risks given his experience.

Today is a prime example. He found Wanyama and the stats will show it was a good ball out. In reality he played it to a player who was exhausted, half fit, deep and centrally positioned, and with men on him. That's a recipe for disaster and led to the Chelsea chance.

He twisted when he should've stuck, but it's easy saying that in hindsight.
You wouldn't have said this if Wanyama had kept the ball, played in Harry Kane who scored the winner.
It's the way he's being asked to play, some you win, some you lose...no need to throw the guy under the bus is all I'm saying.
I didn't mean to come across as condescending, but it's a complete myth when people say his distribution is poor, which is what you did.