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Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

LexingtonSpurs

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I still support Hugo - as a person and as a Spurs player.

People make mistakes - and Hugo made one here. This is now a part of who he is, but it, alone, does not define who he is - and I think, on the whole, Hugo is a good person, worthy of my support.
 

dagraham

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Obviously he’s been a complete prat but I won’t throw him under the bus until we know the facts.

1 pint can sometimes put you over the limit depending on the person and beer.

It's why I believe the limit should be zero.

No excuses though regardless and as has been said, what is he doing out midweek in the early hours of the morning anyway? That kind of suggests he wasn't just unlucky after getting stopped having had a large glass of wine with his dinner.
 

Johnny J

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Aug 18, 2012
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How the hell should I know, I’ve never a) had an employee who committed a crime or b) run a billion £ organisation,

But I like that you’re trying to get me to give you something to argue with, it shows how much you think about me, I feel special.
Was just a question. Not trying to argue.
 

vicbob

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With all due respect, what full facts do we need to wait for? He was breathalysed and was over the limit in the early morning after a night out, no doubt they took his reading at the station again where he was still over the limit and subsequently charged. There isn't any grey area about this, he's over the limit, charged and will now appear in court and will be punished, There isn't any mitigating circumstances we need to wait for which somehow makes it acceptable for Lloris to be driving whilst over the limit.

No, I agree, there is no excuse for it (which is what I said), but there are some on here that seem to want him hung, drawn and quartered. I would be very surprised if Hugo is not totally ashamed of what he has done and will take his punishment (whatever it is) and try and make up for what he has done in some way.
He seems a decent guy, who's obviously made a stupid mistake, for which there is NO EXCUSE, yet hes our club captain and surely deserves a second chance after he has received and served whatever punishment the law and the club decide
 

CowInAComa

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I really love how black and white this is and how expert everyone is not just on the issue, but the best way to deal with it.

He is being charged for drink driving. In my opinion that is a pretty much as good indication as you can get that he was caught drink driving.

How is it not black and white?
 

zepstar

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Certainly not condoning his actions, which were reckless, irresponsible and as with all people who get into the driving seat after having a drink, entirely selfish.

However. If i'd just lifted the World Cup, I'd be drunk for 6 months.
 

glospur

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Interesting fact. It's practically impossible to drink and drive by accident.
Yes, but driving with alcohol in your system isn't an offence. It's only an offence once you go over a certain limit. which leads me to:

No.

One too many red wines is as much a criminal offence as 15 pints.

Strip him of captaincy is the correct response.
On a technical level, sure, but on a punitive level that's not the case.

Again, I don't know about the technicalities in the UK, but here the degree of the punishment significantly differs if you miscalculate and you're only just over compared to when you're blind drunk and willfully endangering life. And this is how it should be in relation to any reprimand that comes from Spurs. That's why it's important to know all the details before calling for him to be dropped or stripped of the captaincy.
 

Saoirse

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It's why I believe the limit should be zero.

No excuses though regardless and as has been said, what is he doing out midweek in the early hours of the morning anyway? That kind of suggests he wasn't just unlucky after getting stopped having had a large glass of wine with his dinner.
I don't think a zero limit makes sense. At that point you can be criminalising people who've drunk more than 48 hours ago, or haven't drunk at all but taken medication, used a mouthwash, or eaten certain foods (e.g. a bolognese) with trace amounts of alcohol. Road safety campaigns generally argue for a 20mg limit (compared to 80mg in England and Wales right now), which avoids this but means even a single half-pint that day is likely to put you over the limit, and I'd certainly go along with that.
 

vicbob

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Just don't let him drive the bus that Jose is going to try and park in front of him on Monday night.................
 

Jules_PF

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This might sound a bit bizarre, but the real victims from this are the Spurs fan's (or any human being, really) who have had their lives affected in the past by drink drivers. How must they feel knowing one of their heroes is stupid enough to do this?

I don't buy the "let's just wait and hear the facts" argument. Someone being charged with drink driving is fact enough for me. I don't want to see him leave the club, but I hope the appropriate action is taken against him by the club and this doesn't just get swept under the rug.

Lloris is, let us not forget, NOT Guilty of drink driving. He has been arrested and charged. Does not imply guilt whatsoever. So, lets wait and see hear the facts....at court. Not the court of public opinion.
 

coys200

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I really love how black and white this is and how expert everyone is not just on the issue, but the best way to deal with it.

Drink driving is probably the most black and white law there is. There is absolutely no room for reasonable doubt. You are over the limit or you aren’t. Obviously there are degrees, but there couldn’t be a more black and white law to break.
 

lazypoodle

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Just don't let him drive the bus that Jose is going to try and park in front of him on Monday night.................

I doubt he starts Monday night.

I'll be disappointed if he does.

I don't think he should necessarily have his captaincy stripped, but I do think he will need to have a discussion with Poch about what is the correct next step here. I expect this to be a joint decision, and if Hugo gives up his captaincy, so be it.
 

Klinsmannesque

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Captaincy taken away is pretty nailed on I reckon. As cynical as it is, Levy will probably push for that, Kane as captain and poster boy is something he'll have wanted for a long time now too. I'm not saying he wouldn't do it regardless, but it's an opportunity he'll want to take.

I do think from a human level without ulterior motives it's the correct decision anyway. Drink driving is inexcusable, regardless of how much over the limit.
 

coys200

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Lloris is, let us not forget, NOT Guilty of drink driving. He has been arrested and charged. Does not imply guilty whatsoever. So, lets wait and see hear the facts....at court. Not the court public opinion.

Are you being serious ? You think they’d charge someone with drink driving who wasn’t over the limit ? Does anyone also know if it’s standard to be held in custody for 7 hours seems a bit excessive.
 

lazypoodle

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Lloris is, let us not forget, NOT Guilty of drink driving. He has been arrested and charged. Does not imply guilty whatsoever. So, lets wait and see hear the facts....at court. Not the court public opinion.

I read they held him for 7 hours, they don't do that for a giggle.
 
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