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Player Watch: Kieran Trippier

kaz Hirai

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Indeed. Then again, those who are unable to resist focusing on the negatives, or calling out the shit players, should also be making the same comments in the threads for Rose, Alli, Eriksen, Lloris etc etc, as they were equally as poor as Trippier last night.

Yet, despite that, unsurprisingly, they're not.

Probably because

A) trip is having his worse season defensively making lots of errors so he gets focused on more
B) he's way easier to improve on with our budget than all the players you listed

Finally there's plenty plenty posts/threads digging out lloris, eriksen.

Just calling trip shit etc is pretty worthless , but questioning his ability, judgement or whether he is at fault for goals is what I expect to be discussed on a football forum . It isn't always lemon cakes and hot cocoa. People like to discuss weak spots in the team, give opinions on how players performed.

Just a few pages back trippier was roundly praised for his performance against city at home.
 

ohtottenham!

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Thanks for proving my point. This is a thread about Trippier...so surprise surprise, people are talking about just that. The justified eulogizing about last night is being done elsewhere.

When did this place become so full of virgins.
…we are the perennial virgins! Been about 30 years since we were last able to waggle our plonkers inside a trophy of note! Almost 60 since we last felt a semi about getting into the semis of Europe’s highest-level club competition. Let’s just enjoy the fact we’re finally getting some action.

I know it’s a player-dedicated thread, but really, just for now, let’s just enjoy the fact that we beat the favourites in the comp. We all know we have injuries, inexperience and other question marks with our RB options outside of Trippier.

Our options right now at RB are what they are, just like they are in CM, and upfront, mainly ‘cause we’ve been hit by a remarkable plague of injuries and a neglectful lack of squad investment.

Still, we’ve had the minerals, stones, bollocks…and talent to defy those challenges and get to the CL semis and still have a good shot at top 4. This is the time to get behind our players.
 

newbie

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Probably because

A) trip is having his worse season defensively making lots of errors so he gets focused on more
B) he's way easier to improve on with our budget than all the players you listed

Finally there's plenty plenty posts/threads digging out lloris, eriksen.

Just calling trip shit etc is pretty worthless , but questioning his ability, judgement or whether he is at fault for goals is what I expect to be discussed on a football forum . It isn't always lemon cakes and hot cocoa. People like to discuss weak spots in the team, give opinions on how players performed.

Just a few pages back trippier was roundly praised for his performance against city at home.

His far from Shit his just not good enough defensively he give away gifts how many goals has he cost us this season from idiot moments, there is no doubting his passing, crossing and vision are top quality, either we change the way we play for him or get a better defencive RB.
 

kaz Hirai

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Would love to know what he whispered to Poch when they embraced on the pitch after the game.

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DFF

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Pace is 50% or more of the battle at RB right now. If you’re trying to compete at the top of the PL you need a RB that can live with the pace of Mané, Sterling, Hazard to name a few. Otherwise you’re already going in with a handicap against your rivals.

There is a glut of class wing forwards in the PL now and speedy full backs is the best way to combat that.
 

Tucker

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Pace is 50% or more of the battle at RB right now. If you’re trying to compete at the top of the PL you need a RB that can live with the pace of Mané, Sterling, Hazard to name a few. Otherwise you’re already going in with a handicap against your rivals.

There is a glut of class wing forwards in the PL now and speedy full backs is the best way to combat that.

The trouble is everyone knows that. That’s why City were willing to pay so much for Walker, and why Rose was so coveted before his injury issues. The reason those pacy wingers are so effective is because quality wing backs are hard to find.

This myth that we can replace Trippier with someone better on a budget is ridiculous. Aurier cost twenty odd million and he’s not any better really.
 

punkisback

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The only thing he has on Trippier is pace. Which is important at the position they play, but I wouldn’t say he’s twice the player. Don’t get me wrong, Walker is good, I don’t think he’s good enough for City though, and he’s been found out a few times playing for them. He makes the same errors and has the same lapses in concentration that Trippier does it’s just that in some cases his physicality and pace can get him out of trouble.

Long story short, Sterling would have made mince meat of Walker as well if he’d been playing for us last night.

Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if Walker is available in the summer, would anyone want him back?
Sick and tired of this pace trope being trotted out. If pace helps him defend then it's an asset! it's like saying all Kane has is finishing. It's part of this game and helps him recover defensively. Also think Walker is a better tackler.
 

Tucker

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Sick and tired of this pace trope being trotted out. If pace helps him defend then it's an asset! it's like saying all Kane has is finishing. It's part of this game and helps him recover defensively. Also think Walker is a better tackler.

Which is why I clearly said “it’s an important part of the position they play.”
 

DFF

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The trouble is everyone knows that. That’s why City were willing to pay so much for Walker, and why Rose was so coveted before his injury issues. The reason those pacy wingers are so effective is because quality wing backs are hard to find.

This myth that we can replace Trippier with someone better on a budget is ridiculous. Aurier cost twenty odd million and he’s not any better really.
You just dismissed Walker as only having pace on Trippier. Then say “everyone knows” pace is half the battle.
 

TEESSIDE1

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Sick and tired of this pace trope being trotted out. If pace helps him defend then it's an asset! it's like saying all Kane has is finishing. It's part of this game and helps him recover defensively. Also think Walker is a better tackler.

With the game we play pace for a full back is essential. We commit our full backs high up and and whereas Walker and Rose could get back, Trippier and Davies cannot. Although their job is to primarily to defend modern day full backs tend to provide the width and spend all game needing to run up and down the wing, so if you’re running in treacle then you have a major problem.
 

Paolo10

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How exactly did pace (or lack thereof) have anything to do with the goals that somehow Trippier is being solely blamed for (yet again)?
 

Legacy

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How exactly did pace (or lack thereof) have anything to do with the goals that somehow Trippier is being solely blamed for (yet again)?
I don't think anyone is using his lack of pace as the reason for blaming Trippier for the goals he was at fault for. That comes down to his poor positioning, inability to close down his man and a complete lack of awareness of his opponent.
 

midoNdefoe

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How exactly did pace (or lack thereof) have anything to do with the goals that somehow Trippier is being solely blamed for (yet again)?

Pace had nothing to do with the fact he just stood and watched Sterling score the opener.

Besides that, he didn't let it get to him, pulled his socks up and contributed massively with the rest of the team in eeking out a win....
 

midoNdefoe

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I don't think anyone is using his lack of pace as the reason for blaming Trippier for the goals he was at fault for. That comes down to his poor positioning, inability to close down his man and a complete lack of awareness of his opponent.

Bit far mate...
 

Spurs72

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May 20, 2008
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I honestly think we should sell, only because which other club striving for the best would have a RB like him, We just built a World Class Stadium, We are in the Semis of the Champions League and it is not going to get any easier for him, and right know Trippier looks shot, Sterling showed me that last night, how can anyone justify wanting to keep him as our starting RB.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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I don't think anyone is using his lack of pace as the reason for blaming Trippier for the goals he was at fault for. That comes down to his poor positioning, inability to close down his man and a complete lack of awareness of his opponent.

Like others, you're not taking into account that he (and Rose, Vertonghen & Alderweireld) we're offered practically zero protection from the midfield.

I should explain, I'm not saying he/they couldn't have done better for all the goals we conceded. But I am saying they were very much hung out to dry by those ahead of them on the pitch.
 
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fishhhandaricecake

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Been saying for about 2 seasons that he’s not good enough, point is it’s not that he’s shit or not good, he’s a very good defender and technically also exceptional and has served us very well but he’s not quite at the level we now need him to be, we’ve squeezed all we can out of him and now we need to move him on.

Take last nights game, it would be harsh to say two of the goals were his fault but:
-he showed sterling inside instead of down the line and didn’t get tight enough for the first goal
-he also wasn’t tight enough and didn’t read the pass positionally for sterling’s 2nd goal (possibly a tad harsh as the pass from KDB was out of this world)
-what worries me most was how often he gave the ball away or when under pressure looked very nervous and panicked and for me that is a sign of a player who is well out of his depth. I never see walker or rose look visibly nervous and indecisive on and off the ball.

But more than just last night, time and time again when trippier is up against top class pacey wingers such as mane hazard sterling etc he gets roasted, compare him to say Azpilequeta or Walker or Wan bisakka that is the level of player we need or possibly even better if our budget allows for it.

Great servent to the club but time has come to move him on.
 
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Spurs72

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Just tired of people not realizing that Pace/Speed/Quickness is a thing that is needed, Why do people think some that Some of the best fullbacks in the World are pacey , Why do teams try to get pacey Wingers, if he (Trips) had more pace to keep up With the Sterlings, Mane's Adame Traore's of the world etc, I think honestly Trips would be a great defender, but if you run a 100 Meter Dash in 12 secs, And I run it in 9, I will see u at the finish.

If Kyle Walker had no pace you think pep would have even Batted an eyelid Walkers way. Pace does help and for all you saying its positioning , knowing how to defend etc and so on, Be Serious.
 
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