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jonathanhotspur

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I think Walker has become a top class defender under Poch's tutelage. Top class defender but very disappointing in his attacking play, considering he gets himself into all the right positions. I am surprised to hear his fitness is an issue and that he is not, perhaps, giving it his all in training. I've cut him a lot of slack in the past two years because I believed his application was outstanding.

I like Trippier. I think he's a good lad and he crosses like Beckham. Not the most comfortable when he's being run at. Anyone else worry about that?
 

viktorviktor

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Just remember that Poch teams are more than the sum of their parts. Just look at the ex-Southhampton players. Losing Walker would be a blow, but we can definitely cope, and I don't think he would be as great for any other team. Still, want Levy to extract every last penny from City if that's the case.
 

Johnny J

Not the Kiwi you need but the one you deserve
Aug 18, 2012
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Just remember that Poch teams are more than the sum of their parts. Just look at the ex-Southhampton players. Losing Walker would be a blow, but we can definitely cope, and I don't think he would be as great for any other team. Still, want Levy to extract every last penny from City if that's the case.
We should refuse to sell to a rival, only abroad.
 

whitesocks

The past means nothing. This is a message for life
Jan 16, 2014
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Who says Rose is on 30k a week?
I had a quick google and that is the only figure that came up.
But that was indeed the 2014 figure. I cannot find a figure for his new contract, so yeah I'll happily retract that.
 

Phil-spur99

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Jan 27, 2011
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I think it would be a shame to sell Walker in the sense that it would give the press the opportunity to write about the 'break up' of the team. However, I get the impression that his head has been turned by the money Man City can offer him.

If that is the case and he is more interested in that then say being paid £100k and investing in the project we have here then I trust that Poch and Levy will do the right thing, let him go and take City for all they can. I would much rather the team spirit that we have got remain in tact and if I someone said you HAD to lose one first teamer, who would you sacrifice, it would be Walker.

These are exciting times at the club and its clear that some players want to stay to be a part of that rather than take the money they could get elsewhere (N.B. If anyone say Kane's interview with Henry before the NLD it was noticeable that he said he wanted to win trophies and that in 3 years if he hadn't it would be a disappointment - in which case we could lose him then).

Having said all of that I hope he stays but he is by far and away not irreplaceable. If City do come in I think Levy should start at £40m and when they agree to pay it, say the price has gone up to £45-50m - if they can pay it for Stones they can pay it for Walker. I wouldn't mind suggesting Iheanacho in part ex.
 

spurs9

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Aug 31, 2012
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Can't be that pissed off as he has played a part in the last 3 games. Townsend etc... didn't even get to train with the first team.
Townsend wasn't a starter though and still made the bench once after the incident. Walker is our main RB and we are challenging the league with 4 games to go, so they are totally different scenarios.
 

Mark_147

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Aug 24, 2011
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I think it would be a shame to sell Walker in the sense that it would give the press the opportunity to write about the 'break up' of the team. However, I get the impression that his head has been turned by the money Man City can offer him.

If that is the case and he is more interested in that then say being paid £100k and investing in the project we have here then I trust that Poch and Levy will do the right thing, let him go and take City for all they can. I would much rather the team spirit that we have got remain in tact and if I someone said you HAD to lose one first teamer, who would you sacrifice, it would be Walker.

These are exciting times at the club and its clear that some players want to stay to be a part of that rather than take the money they could get elsewhere (N.B. If anyone say Kane's interview with Henry before the NLD it was noticeable that he said he wanted to win trophies and that in 3 years if he hadn't it would be a disappointment - in which case we could lose him then).

Having said all of that I hope he stays but he is by far and away not irreplaceable. If City do come in I think Levy should start at £40m and when they agree to pay it, say the price has gone up to £45-50m - if they can pay it for Stones they can pay it for Walker. I wouldn't mind suggesting Iheanacho in part ex.
Should we sell Danny Rose as well if city decide on a double raid and he's head gets turned too.
 

beats1

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rose was a winger too, but i don't think it's a good idea to play son as wing back...
He really was really bad though, he had a bad knee injury and lost a bit of sharpness and pace. After that knee injury he never looked good as a winger and was on his way to a league one club
 

spurs9

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Aug 31, 2012
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I doubt Rose has disclosed the full conversation there. Can you imagine "gaffer, there are rumours I am attracting interest from the world's biggest clubs, offering to double my wages"

"Focus on enjoying your football, Danny"

"You're the best, Poch"

There must have been some kind of promise to review it at the end of the season, either a new contract with us or whatever. Certainly his agent will not let the club get off that lightly.

I don't really demand much from Levy given he's doing a brilliant job but keeping this group together feels vitally important. It's not just their talent, but their character. We'd also lose some momentum by bedding in new players and send a negative message. I know finances are not as simple as this but I'd much rather keep this group together than spend millions on fees (and wages) to try to compensate for their loss.
Team Talk missed this part of the original article.

He is optimistic that the average age of the squad — of the key players, only Hugo Lloris has reached 30 — means clubs interested in signing Spurs players are likely to be disappointed.

Rose explained: “I don’t think we’re vulnerable to that, because of the age of the players. For example, Harry Kane’s mindset is not like that at all.

“He is already a club legend and he wants to break records and win things here. So for the foreseeable future I don’t think Spurs have to worry about players wanting to leave to achieve success elsewhere.”

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...targets-silverware-at-tottenham-a3454196.html
 

Phil-spur99

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Jan 27, 2011
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Should we sell Danny Rose as well if city decide on a double raid and he's head gets turned too.
No, and you haven't read my post properly have you? I said I wouldn't want him to go BUT if there was one player we could lose from the first team it would be Walker. Like many others I think the 'drop off' (if any - its subjective) between Walker and Trippier is far smaller than between Rose and Davies - that said you can't say we haven't performed well without Rose (won 9/10 in the league - only defeat an Anfield), NOT that I am advocating selling Rose.
 

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
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Townsend wasn't a starter though and still made the bench once after the incident. Walker is our main RB and we are challenging the league with 4 games to go, so they are totally different scenarios.

And we have rotated our fb's for the last couple of seasons. Walker played in all 3 of our matches. If poch was that pissed off with him he could easily have left him on the bench for all 3.
 

Phil-spur99

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Jan 27, 2011
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Should we sell Danny Rose as well if city decide on a double raid and he's head gets turned too.
The point is also if they are not prepared to buy into what we / Poch are doing and be part of something rather than getting paid the City money would you still want them as opposed to getting the money. Its about their mentality as much as the money, Poch's style requires full buy in from the players.
 

thebenjamin

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Jul 1, 2008
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I think it would be a shame to sell Walker in the sense that it would give the press the opportunity to write about the 'break up' of the team. However, I get the impression that his head has been turned by the money Man City can offer him.

If that is the case and he is more interested in that then say being paid £100k and investing in the project we have here then I trust that Poch and Levy will do the right thing, let him go and take City for all they can. I would much rather the team spirit that we have got remain in tact and if I someone said you HAD to lose one first teamer, who would you sacrifice, it would be Walker.

These are exciting times at the club and its clear that some players want to stay to be a part of that rather than take the money they could get elsewhere (N.B. If anyone say Kane's interview with Henry before the NLD it was noticeable that he said he wanted to win trophies and that in 3 years if he hadn't it would be a disappointment - in which case we could lose him then).

Having said all of that I hope he stays but he is by far and away not irreplaceable. If City do come in I think Levy should start at £40m and when they agree to pay it, say the price has gone up to £45-50m - if they can pay it for Stones they can pay it for Walker. I wouldn't mind suggesting Iheanacho in part ex.

£40m abroad, £65m + Iheanacho to City.
 

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
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The point is also if they are not prepared to buy into what we / Poch are doing and be part of something rather than getting paid the City money would you still want them as opposed to getting the money. Its about their mentality as much as the money, Poch's style requires full buy in from the players.

But he has bought into what poch has wanted to do and worked his arse off for the team over the last couple of years.
 

spurs9

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Aug 31, 2012
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And we have rotated our fb's for the last couple of seasons. Walker played in all 3 of our matches. If poch was that pissed off with him he could easily have left him on the bench for all 3.
I agree but opposition needs to be taken into account too. Before the semi final, he only 2 PL teams Walker hadn't started vs were Watford, Burnley and Liverpool in the 4th round of the league cup.
 

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
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I agree but opposition needs to be taken into account too. Before the semi final, he only 2 PL teams Walker hadn't started vs were Watford, Burnley and Liverpool in the 4th round of the league cup.

Yes but tactics also can be taken into consideration. Bring him on as a sub to stretch a tired defence.

If he is on the bench v west ham then i might start thinking there is something wrong.
 

slartibartfast

Grunge baby forever
Oct 21, 2012
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Absolutely crazy to sell him. I hope this is not happening!
Dont sweat it. Gonna be shitloads of crap like this from now until the window shuts. We have about 14 players who'd walk straight into almost every team going. These players know we're building something great here.
 
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