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dagraham

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Right so the club and manager were so furious that walker played the match against palace. Sounds like something straight out of jackanory

Not that I believe that set of tweets, but there are no hard and fast rules when it comes to stuff like this.

Poch may be ruthless, but like the best managers he is also pragmatic. If, as I suspect, Walker's head has been turned and he's lost focus then him being left out of two very important games is a signal of things to come, or at the very least sends a message to Walker that Poch is not to be fucked with and team is the most important thing.

On the other hand, Poch knows that's Walker is still very much needed for the run in and doesn't want to completely cut him off.

I don't think the treatment of Townsend is a very good indicator because a) Townsend actually had an altercation with a staff member and b) wasn't good enough and quite clearly not cut out to play in Poch's teams.
 

talkshowhost86

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Fair point however even a new stadium might not allow us to compete with the gangster owned teams like City and Chelsea in wage terms.

Maybe not, but Arsenal seem to do fairly well on the wage front (if you consider Ozil and Sanchez) and a lot of that was driven by the new stadium (not just the ticket money but the naming rights and general advertising) so it will certainly move us closer.
 

thefierycamel

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Fuck this pisses me off. Every single one of our players will cop this over the summer. Last season it was kane to united, next it will be dele to city or united or real. It's just rubbish
 

bubble07

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Is he happy at Tottenham?
I cannot confirm this, because it’s rumours. If I speak about all the rumours, we will be in the press conference for two hours. I think it’s about football, we understand them but I can’t confirm anything because they’re rumours.
 

CockOnBall

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Fair to say, reading between the lines of Poch's presser, there is something in these rumours.

Again, how desperate it is will be shown in his team selection on Friday. Walker has served us well so I am inclined to think he will remain professional. We can then scrap this out with his agent over the summer.

Best case scenario, we agree a new deal with him and all the other first players as they deserve it. Worse case, he's sold abroad. It should not even be an option for him to be sold to a rival. He's got 4 years left on his deal.
 

spursfan77

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before they were using the lack of CL football. Now we have that it's about money. Wonder if they were all on 150k a week plus what the next reason would be

As Ive said in the past. It was never about Champions League, it was Champions League level wages.
 

St José Dominguez

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What's hillarious is that City could spend £50m on a RB. They're such a fake vacuous club. Pray we never turn into them, genuinely wouldn't even feel that much joy if we won the league like they do. It's all just so phony and pathetic. Spent a billion and two years in a row we've been better than them, got a better stadium and way bigger fanbase yet because some rich bloke can sign a check they can just buy players from teams who are better than them.

It's soulless nonsense and if compare the atmosphere at their place compared to when they were monetary poor and shit it's chalk and cheese. Their fans know they're a joke now and you feel it through the atmosphere.
 

spursfan77

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What's hillarious is that City could spend £50m on a RB. They're such a fake vacuous club. Pray we never turn into them, genuinely wouldn't even feel that much joy if we won the league like they do. It's all just so phony and pathetic. Spent a billion and two years in a row we've been better than them, got a better stadium and way bigger fanbase yet because some rich bloke can sign a check they can just buy players from teams who are better than them.

It's soulless nonsense and if compare the atmosphere at their place compared to when they were monetary poor and shit it's chalk and cheese. Their fans know they're a joke now and you feel it through the atmosphere.

They've always been a little nothing club and now they are a rich nothing little club. No player is ever going to say "oh yeah I grew up dreaming of playing for Man City" and if they do, its bullshit, they want the money, thats all.

Fuck them though, even if we sell them Walker, I bet we finish above them again. They need a new goalie and pretty much new defence and central midfield. They haven't solved any problem they had since this time last year. I'd be amazed if they do again. Instead they'll go round overpaying for mercenaries to join them. Thats all Walker will be by the way. He's not going to go there because they've a better chance of winning the league than us, he'll want to go there for the money and thats it.
 

CockOnBall

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Chelsea have had to put up with rumours about hazard and costa since the turn of the year, arsenal the same with ozil and sanchez.

Lets not play the victim. All clubs go through it. We get more rumours because we are more vulnerable. We don't pay players the 'going rate' and we're not yet an established elite club. We have several players (and a manager) who are doing remarkably well, clubs would be stupid not to try and sign them.

We can't control the outside influences, only how we react to them. Letting Walker leave for Manchester City is not what I would call a good reaction. Hopefully Levy concurs!
 

Dennism

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Maybe not, but Arsenal seem to do fairly well on the wage front (if you consider Ozil and Sanchez) and a lot of that was driven by the new stadium (not just the ticket money but the naming rights and general advertising) so it will certainly move us closer.
Closer but there is still a gap. The Sky four get huge revenue from the fans they picked up in Africa and Asia during the period they monopolised the Champions League spots.
 

thelak

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What's hillarious is that City could spend £50m on a RB. They're such a fake vacuous club. Pray we never turn into them, genuinely wouldn't even feel that much joy if we won the league like they do. It's all just so phony and pathetic. Spent a billion and two years in a row we've been better than them, got a better stadium and way bigger fanbase yet because some rich bloke can sign a check they can just buy players from teams who are better than them.

It's soulless nonsense and if compare the atmosphere at their place compared to when they were monetary poor and shit it's chalk and cheese. Their fans know they're a joke now and you feel it through the atmosphere.


Their proper fans liked them being rubbish. Was part of the attraction being able to say they were supporting them with 30k other proper salt of the Earth mancs in the 3rd division and poking fun at the glory supporting Utd fans from surrey. Now they are ten times worse.

At least they play good football vs Mourinho era Chelsea that spent billions and were dull as ditchwater but still hard to take City or anyone joining them seriously when most of our lives they have been a joke club. Guess as with the lure of China money talks

Genuinely not sure what a relative simpleton like Walker needs with the extra cash when he is on it seems c. £4m a year at Spurs if he is happy
 

JayB

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I have a hard time seeing Levy being willing to buckle on our policy of not selling players within the league.

We wouldn't sell Luka to Chelsea when we were fighting for CL qualification, so why on Earth would we help Pep solve one of his biggest problems now that we're competing for the league?

If Walker is really trying to force a move so he can be closer to home then tough shit. He knew full well that we don't sell to domestic rivals when he signed his new contract in September.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Fair to say, reading between the lines of Poch's presser, there is something in these rumours.

Again, how desperate it is will be shown in his team selection on Friday. Walker has served us well so I am inclined to think he will remain professional. We can then scrap this out with his agent over the summer.

Best case scenario, we agree a new deal with him and all the other first players as they deserve it. Worse case, he's sold abroad. It should not even be an option for him to be sold to a rival. He's got 4 years left on his deal.

There might be something in the rumours but I didn't get that from his presser. It was more Poch being careful not to give the press any headlines as he doesn't want the team to lose focus. Whether the rumours are true or not I think Poch would have always given the same answers to the questions today.
 

Mark_147

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Not that I believe that set of tweets, but there are no hard and fast rules when it comes to stuff like this.

Poch may be ruthless, but like the best managers he is also pragmatic. If, as I suspect, Walker's head has been turned and he's lost focus then him being left out of two very important games is a signal of things to come, or at the very least sends a message to Walker that Poch is not to be fucked with and team is the most important thing.

On the other hand, Poch knows that's Walker is still very much needed for the run in and doesn't want to completely cut him off.

I don't think the treatment of Townsend is a very good indicator because a) Townsend actually had an altercation with a staff member and b) wasn't good enough and quite clearly not cut out to play in Poch's teams.
It's debatable whether chelsea semi final was bigger than palace away when it's clear that winning the premier league is bigger than winning the FA Cup, but none the less Poch thought trippier was good enough against a weak arsenal team at home and he was spot on.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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I've noticed with Poch that when he has positive news he will generally respond to speculation. In November, the media asked him if Lloris and Kane were happy at spurs despite the drawn out contract talks and he insisted that they were happy.

The fact he is refusing to talk on the Walker and Toby rumours speaks volumes.
 

St José Dominguez

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I've noticed with Poch that when he has positive news he will generally respond to speculation. In November, the media asked him if Lloris and Kane were happy at spurs despite the drawn out contract talks and he insisted that they were happy.

The fact he is refusing to talk on the Walker and Toby rumours speaks volumes.

He could just be bored to death of having to constantly say if every man and his dog is happy at Tottenham.

Get the feeling he's a press conference or two away from having a massive rant regarding constant press stories about players leaving in midst of a title challenge. Which will backfire and mean story after story this summer about every single player.
 

Trix

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I have a hard time seeing Levy being willing to buckle on our policy of not selling players within the league.

We wouldn't sell Luka to Chelsea when we were fighting for CL qualification, so why on Earth would we help Pep solve one of his biggest problems now that we're competing for the league?

If Walker is really trying to force a move so he can be closer to home then tough shit. He knew full well that we don't sell to domestic rivals when he signed his new contract in September.

Something to consider is Modric, Berbatov and Bale were our out and out star players. Walker as good as he is, is far from being that in this current team.
 
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