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Timberwolf

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"Of course it's wrong".

I have literally zero issue with anyone being angry or annoyed if we haven't resolved this by the end of the transfer window. Will happily be entirely fucked off with you.

What I am (and others are) saying is give it until the window for your own health. If you want. Or don't.

If you don't want to - entirely your choice - then you can't blame people for saying "maybe wait until something is not possible before getting annoyed about it not happening". Especially when it involves things that we have 3% knowledge of (and 0.5% of the global picture of what is going on at the club).

From my angle, genuinely, it comes from making sure fellow fans aren't getting all hot and bothered over things they have little control over and equally little knowledge of.

Love you all.
Yeah I'm beyond getting actually angry about anything transfer related (and largely Spurs related tbh). Been worn down over the years and try to be philosophical about it instead. I'm actually really excited about watching some attacking football this season and am trying to look on the bright side and assume we'll get the CB situation sorted in an adequate way, even if it's slow.

It's more just...weird. Am curious about why we're doing things this way and can't seem to pin down a signing for such an obvious weakness in the squad. Not sure what on earth Levy and the brain trust are thinking.
 

cjsimba

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This really should have been sorted before pre season, before Maddison, before any other signing. We leaked 60 goals last season and so far we are going into the season with the same back line.

It's actually a worse backline given we don't have Lenglet anymore....
 

Trix

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Completely & utterly frustrated with way this window is going. I stupidly assumed we will have a CB ready for the tour.
Now , I wonder if we will get even 1 good CB signing this window.
Utter shambles of a management.
I said when people were overly hyped after pulling in Vicario, Maddison and Solomon early that this was identical to last season when we brought in Bissouma, Richarlisson and Peresic early. Whilst it was addressing some problems Bissouma and Peresic were done quickly just like Maddison and Solomon because they represented excellent value that we wouldn't lose money on, and we still failed to address the main problem which was at CB. I said I wasn't getting excited or believing things were different now because we have all seen this before and at the end of the window we failed to get the main priority position covered.
 

olliec

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I said when people were overly hyped after pulling in Vicario, Maddison and Solomon early that this was identical to last season when we brought in Bissouma, Richarlisson and Peresic early. Whilst it was addressing some problems Bissouma and Peresic were done quickly just like Maddison and Solomon because they represented excellent value that we wouldn't lose money on, and we still failed to address the main problem which was at CB. I said I wasn't getting excited or believing things were different now because we have all seen this before and at the end of the window we failed to get the main priority position covered.
It seems we are always looking for value for money rather than addressing main priorities and this has been on going since the levy regime. We scored plenty of goals last season. Leaking goals is why we missed CL!

and for the record we wouldn’t even have Maddison if Leicester didn’t get relegated.
 
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Trix

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Ok I’ll say people are saying if that makes any difference to my general point of what you said in your original post (it doesn’t)

People are saying if we don’t get European football next year it’s a fucking disaster. The tone of your post was that because we haven’t got a CB in NOW or 2 weeks ago it’s likely to result in us getting no European football for the 2nd time in a row which to most of the virgins on here equals a fucking disaster hence why we’ve got endless amounts of people shitting the bed
Endless "people/virgins" are "shitting the bed" as you put it because we've all seen this before numerous times and we've seen how it plays out. All whilst people like you keep telling us to be patient and see what happens at the end of the window.
 

SamR

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Ha Ha.

No one is saying the season is fucked. Me saying it will likely cost us points and possibly league position is not the same thing at all, and you damn well know it.
@Trix any idea what the actual issue is though? We brought players in other positions, so it doesn’t seem to be money related. It makes little sense to think we’re not actively looking for a CN. Is it purely indecisiveness at the board level that superseded the wishes of managers?
Is it we have a x amount of defenders on the books already and we’re just not keen to add more without selling?

Or has dier and others got a contract agreement to play every game? 😂
 

djhotspur

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Last year was last year bro.
And Davies is now even older and no faster, so why do you think now suddenly when playing a higher line will we suddenly be better at stopping a faster counter with slow CBs and factoring in we’ll be playing with very high fullbacks?
You live in some weird dream world and the fact you think finishing 8th again wouldn’t be a failure makes me think you’re a troll.
Davies just got exposed by plumbers in Singapore ffs
 

SamR

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I said when people were overly hyped after pulling in Vicario, Maddison and Solomon early that this was identical to last season when we brought in Bissouma, Richarlisson and Peresic early. Whilst it was addressing some problems Bissouma and Peresic were done quickly just like Maddison and Solomon because they represented excellent value that we wouldn't lose money on, and we still failed to address the main problem which was at CB. I said I wasn't getting excited or believing things were different now because we have all seen this before and at the end of the window we failed to get the main priority position covered.
This might have answered my question actually thanks.

there surely has to be CBs in the world who are seen as fair value and with sell on? VDV for a start…
 

freeeki

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Firstly that’s not what I’m saying I’m just saying its a possibility as a result of hiring a manager the prioritises attacking football. It’s possible we concede less goals next season. It’s possible we sign a CB next week and he’s brilliant or shit or a million things inbetween.

I don’t even know what the disagreement is here. We all agree we need a CB, we all agree, like with any signing the earlier the better, I’m just challenging the writing everything off because of the timing of one signing, albeit in a important area.

We're not scoring 140 goals next season.

Happy to help.
 

djhotspur

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Endless "people/virgins" are "shitting the bed" as you put it because we've all seen this before numerous times and we've seen how it plays out. All whilst people like you keep telling us to be patient and see what happens at the end of the window.
Exactly this. Like every other window proceeding but I can’t wait to sign another Rodon or another bloody lenglet on loan. Lucky us
 

Cambridge Spur

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I can’t believe that there are still people out there ‘defending’ our transfer strategies. How many times have we heard ‘let’s see where we’re at when the window closes’. It is the same every single year. No planning, no scouting, just opportune buys at the end of the window and then we wonder why we’ve got such a bloated squad. It is beyond a joke, it is downright incompetent. E17 must be on the board….
 

djhotspur

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This might have answered my question actually thanks.

there surely has to be CBs in the world who are seen as fair value and with sell on? VDV for a start…
and tapsoba…. The guy is 24 and quality. 2 good seasons for us and he goes from a 43m 24 year old to a 80m 26 year old
 

Trix

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@Trix any idea what the actual issue is though? We brought players in other positions, so it doesn’t seem to be money related. It makes little sense to think we’re not actively looking for a CN. Is it purely indecisiveness at the board level that superseded the wishes of managers?
Is it we have a x amount of defenders on the books already and we’re just not keen to add more without selling?

Or has dier and others got a contract agreement to play every game? 😂
I've told you what I think over and over. We get the ones done where we think we are getting good vfm. When it comes to paying the fee for players we want from teams that won't drop the price we haggle and haggle until the point one side just says fuck this I'm out.
 

djhotspur

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Sure but this thread has gone pages long over 1 tweet that got posted so definitely in reaction to it
Yeah but that tweet is being backed up by trix… that’s why we are losing our shit. If Trix and other itk came in here saying dw it’s all fine we are close on the cbs and very nearly done we would be fine.
 

Stamford

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Guys honestly chill out. Nothing has changed and nothing will. It's value for money or no signing. Just enjoy your summer because there is no ambition here.
 

E17yid

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Endless "people/virgins" are "shitting the bed" as you put it because we've all seen this before numerous times and we've seen how it plays out. All whilst people like you keep telling us to be patient and see what happens at the end of the window.
I know crazy idea init.
 
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