Player Watch Player Watch: Son Heung-min

[FrankSpencer]

Anyone writing Son off is a wingnut.

 

[TommyGee]

Not every player becomes better with time and patience.
Townsend? What gained he form patience?

£12m

 

[Dazzazzad]

I actually got banned, from another forum, for suggesting that. I've been waiting here, patiently, for someone to use that terminology, to prove I'm at the right forum.

Thank you.

Onto Son. I really do think that we've seen virtually nothing yet of him, but it wasn't surprising considering the bedding in period for the EPL. I think he has a lot to offer this season. I'd love him to bag 20.

I bet I know the forum and had the same experience. Amazing how the f word can be used here and the whole place doesn't burn to the ground.

To keep it on topic, I was impressed with Son's performances pre-injury and hope we can see more of that. He is a goal threat but I worry that he's going to be a more expensive version of Chadli. Always going to bag the odd goal, which is important, but otherwise doesn't add that much to the team.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Alright mystic meg, just give it a chance yeah, no point waving your Willy around claiming that you're right based purely on some silly prediction and guess work.

As you can see, I mean, if you ever learned to actually understand what you are reading, which is such a rare thing these days, I am right. I am not predicting nor guessing at all, it's incredible if that's what you take away. I'm merely saying that all the references to time and patience, and to individual players who benefitted from time in the past, as they keep popping up in relation to any single underwhelming player under the Tottenham sun, are redundant at best. We don't KNOW if a player will benefit in future from patience. It is impossible to know today. And we also know that some players have come good over time, some have really not at all changed for the better. Hence to constantly respond to any poster with various degree of just criticism of player B solely with "player A in the past did so and so, so you are fickle" is one of the most flawed, most stupid and most unintelligent responses I see on SC. It is so contentless, it would make more sense to say "we should definitely keep player B, the Spurs kit fit him so goddarn well". At least that would be presenting an actual opinion rather than moralising over other's opinions.

 

[Gbspurs]

Not every player becomes better with time and patience.
Townsend? What gained he form patience? A low key move to Newcastle?
Carroll? Early criticism of him was ridiculed, but is now widely accepted as mainstream view.
People who criticised Bentaleb was reminded about ManUtd and Paul Pogba ffs, and now
the club can't wait to get Benaleb out the door.
Nobody is putting their 5 pound bottle of wine from tesco in the cellar just because some wine matures well and develops with time.
It's the same with footballers. Not every player will be better next year or the year thereafter.

I agree in some respects but all the players you mentioned were youth players do not really comparable.

If you sign an expensive player and don't give them time to settle you will only end up losing money. Son isn't unproven but we know the prem is hard to adjust to. He has shown glimpses and a horrendous first touch can be worked on.

We would be crazy to give up straight away given the money spent on him and his potential as a footballer. If this time next season we are having the same conversation then maybe.

 

[Shadydan]

As you can see, I mean, if you ever learned to actually understand what you are reading, which is such a rare thing these days, I am right. I am not predicting nor guessing at all, it's incredible if that's what you take away. I'm merely saying that all the references to time and patience, and to individual players who benefitted from time in the past, as they keep popping up in relation to any single underwhelming player under the Tottenham sun, are redundant at best. We don't KNOW if a player will benefit in future from patience. It is impossible to know today. And we also know that some players have come good over time, some have really not at all changed for the better. Hence to constantly respond to any poster with various degree of just criticism of player B solely with "player A in the past did so and so, so you are fickle" is one of the most flawed, most stupid and most unintelligent responses I see on SC. It is so contentless, it would make more sense to say "we should definitely keep player B, the Spurs kit fit him so goddarn well". At least that would be presenting an actual opinion rather than moralising over other's opinions.

You're not right, you just think you're right based on some nonsense counter arguments which have since been rebutted. There may be something to suggest you could well be right but you don't ha e a crystal ball and neither do I. Let's just see if how this one plays out, no point going over the same thing over and over again.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I'd certainly give Sonny another season to improve, but if he continues at the same level then he'll have been a big waste of money.

 

[Sweech]

I actually got banned, from another forum, for suggesting that. I've been waiting here, patiently, for someone to use that terminology, to prove I'm at the right forum.

Thank you.

Onto Son. I really do think that we've seen virtually nothing yet of him, but it wasn't surprising considering the bedding in period for the EPL. I think he has a lot to offer this season. I'd love him to bag 20.

You're a long ways from COYS mate.

 

[ultimateloner]

Funny how some see it. I see it as Lamela, Eriksen and Alli all being of a similar level in terms of contribution, whilst Son offers less and Chadli less again.

Yeah but thats football, all about different views. My view:
Eriksen: Most intelligent player; pivotal to moving the ball around in final 3rd. Proven deadball ability. Tracks back. Doesn't get into the box.
Lamela: Presses. Gets into the box. Can see a pass. Some involvement in build-up play. Prone to giving away fouls.
Ali: Gets into the box well, good finisher. Not involved in build up play. Doesn't track much either.
Chadli: Makes intelligent runs. Can finish. Hardly tracks back.
Son: Lamela/Chadli hybrid.

The 1 skill that none of these guys have is the ability to beat a man, which is probably why none of them's world class.

In terms of offence/defence balance Eriksen is most important IMO and Lamela complements him best so they start, then the other berth is just about where you want to attack.

 

[dagraham]

Yeah but thats football, all about different views. My view:
Eriksen: Most intelligent player; pivotal to moving the ball around in final 3rd. Proven deadball ability. Tracks back. Doesn't get into the box.
Lamela: Presses. Gets into the box. Can see a pass. Some involvement in build-up play. Prone to giving away fouls.
Ali: Gets into the box well, good finisher. Not involved in build up play. Doesn't track much either.
Chadli: Makes intelligent runs. Can finish. Hardly tracks back.
Son: Lamela/Chadli hybrid.

The 1 skill that none of these guys have is the ability to beat a man, which is probably why none of them's world class.

In terms of offence/defence balance Eriksen is most important IMO and Lamela complements him best so they start, then the other berth is just about where you want to attack.

And why it's essential we buy someone who can do exactly this.

 

[diamond lights]

Anyone writing Son off is a wingnut.

This is the most astute comment yet on the subject.

 

[ultimateloner]

And why it's essential we buy someone who can do exactly this.

Yeah but we aren't going to get someone like that AND goals rolled into one. Even bolaise costs 25m.
We can try players who can beat a man and maybe coach goals into them but with our squad now they won't start;e.g Lennon.
Or you can go for an impact sub like man city does with navas.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Son went 90 minutes today for SK against China. SK won 3-2.

 

[JayB]

Their first goal was a deflected own goal stemming from a Son free kick, and he got the assist for the third. This match report makes it sound like he was MOTM.

 

[EQP]

Their first goal was a deflected own goal stemming from a Son free kick, and he got the assist for the third. This match report makes it sound like he was MOTM.

He'll be excused for next international game and allowed to report back to training ground to prep for the season.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

BTW - I am hoping that Son has the same type of season Lamela enjoyed last year, after nearly being sold at the deadline.

 

[laowaiandros]

Personally rate Son and thought he had a better first year than people give him credit for. When he first came in he got goals, added energy and looked keen to run at defences. He then got injured, was in and out of the team and lost form but I think this year he could make a big impact.

 

[Kiedis]

Players that tend to score goals, tend to score goals is a saying around these parts.

His performances were very up and down, but like Chadli, he'll consistently get you goals and assists if given playing time. Like Lamela did before him, he'll have to adjust to the league and reduce his sloppiness in possession.

 

[sparx100]

Players that tend to score goals, tend to score goals is a saying around these parts.

His performances were very up and down, but like Chadli, he'll consistently get you goals and assists if given playing time. Like Lamela did before him, he'll have to adjust to the league and reduce his sloppiness in possession.

Agree completely. I think there is a good player in there. Chadli offered nothing else other than a goal threat but I think Son has a bit more about him.

 

[yusrisafri]

I really dont understand the "Chadli offers nothing much" statement. He was a very good player for us and was always involved in our many good games.

Sad to see him leave.