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Styopa

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It's worth a punt, but we need someone clinical. Hopefully Werner can find some old form and finishing. Richarlison is ok but doesn't really cut it as a killer in front of goal. And Johnson is coming along g nicely, but quite profligate. Werner on a loan with an option to buy is decent, but he needs far sharper finishing than we saw in his PL career to date. He missed several gaping chances and if he cuts out the howlers he'll have decent output.

I agree that having a more clinical striker would be superb and eventually we need to look at long term succession planning for Son.

But right now it’s not like we’re struggling to score. We’re the fourth highest scorers in the league (42), only Man C (45) and A Villa and Liverpool (both 43) have scored more than us.

This season Son (12), Richarlison (7), Kulusevski (5) should be finishing with double figures or close to it. Maddison when he returns should be aiming for double figures or close to it (3 so far). Werner if he can contribute 5 goals (the equivalent of double digits across a season) could make a big difference in this context.

Last season the only player other than Kane to score double figures was Son (14 in all comps). Kane, arguably the most clinical striker in the world, scored 30 league goals last season but we are well on the way to replacing those goals. Werner could help with that, even if he’s not as clinical as ideally we would like.
 
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luRRka

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I agree that having a more clinical striker would be superb and eventually we need to look at long term succession planning for Son.

But right now it’s not like we’re struggling to score. We’re the fourth highest scorers in the league (42), only Man C (45) and A Villa and Liverpool (both 43) have scored more than us.

This season Son (12), Richarlison (7), Kulusevski (5) should be finishing with double figures or close to it. Maddison when he returns should be aiming for double figures or close to it (3 so far). Werner if he can contribute 5 goals (the equivalent of double digits across a season) could make a big difference in this context.

Last season the only player other than Kane to score double figures was Son (14 in all comps). Kane, arguably the most clinical striker in the world, scored 30 league goals last season but we are well on the way to replacing those goals. Werner could help with that, even if he’s not as clinical as ideally we would like.
All 3 having scored 4 pens to our 1 (with city and Liverpool both missing further pens)
 

brasil_spur

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It's worth a punt, but we need someone clinical. Hopefully Werner can find some old form and finishing. Richarlison is ok but doesn't really cut it as a killer in front of goal. And Johnson is coming along g nicely, but quite profligate. Werner on a loan with an option to buy is decent, but he needs far sharper finishing than we saw in his PL career to date. He missed several gaping chances and if he cuts out the howlers he'll have decent output.
Trouble is that clinical PL strikers will cost upwards of £100m and we aren’t going to spend that and if we were then we couldn’t find anyone in Jan to spend it on.
 

$hoguN

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Trouble is that clinical PL strikers will cost upwards of £100m and we aren’t going to spend that and if we were then we couldn’t find anyone in Jan to spend it on.
Name me these clinical PL strikers though even at that price.

Haaland & Kane. Net contribution from someone like Toney or Watkins is arguably less. Beyond that you are looking at the likes of Son and Salah who are wide forward freaks really.
 

Fredo

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Was Lewis Holtby the last German to play for us? Can’t remember any others in recent times.
 

the yid

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Was Lewis Holtby the last German to play for us? Can’t remember any others in recent times.
Yeah he'll be 5th German in the PL to play for us with Zeige Klinsmann and the absolute legend that is Steffen Freund the other 3
 

rebrab

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Jun 13, 2008
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Really excited for what this can do to our pressing game. At the start of the season we saw Sonny and Maddison coming off on 60 to get rest (it’s one reason I feel sorry for Ange with the injuries, as he was really trying to not run players down) but we haven’t been able to recently.

It’ll be amazing if we can play a really strong XI, have them run their heart out for 60, then switch out for adequate replacements. For example, for the first 60:

Vic, Porro, Romero, VDV, Udogie, Bentancur, Sarr, Maddison, Johnson, Son, Kulu

Final 30 you can bring on Werner, Richi, Solomon, Lo Celso, Bissouma, Hoj, Skipp, Emerson, Davies, Dragusin etc to keep that pressing going without a significant drop in quality.

If we get these deals done, it’s amazing how quickly we have gone from being unhappy with almost every position last summer to having a really quite complete squad - largely because Ange is getting a tune out of players.
 

jackson

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Jan 27, 2006
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Did he say the same thing about Havertz/Arsenal ?? ... or Cech/Arsenal... or... David Luiz/Arsenal... or... Jorginho/Arsenal... or Willian/Arsenal... ???? .... 🤮🤮🤮
Was listening to it while in the car, he did mention Havertz/Arsenal but was happy with the money they got for a poor player. His main theme was that Timo was awful and he'd put him in his worst Chelsea 11 ever... But still crying that he was joining us
 

Farmdog

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I agree that having a more clinical striker would be superb and eventually we need to look at long term succession planning for Son.

But right now it’s not like we’re struggling to score. We’re the fourth highest scorers in the league (42), only Man C (45) and A Villa and Liverpool (both 43) have scored more than us.

This season Son (12), Richarlison (7), Kulusevski (5) should be finishing with double figures or close to it. Maddison when he returns should be aiming for double figures or close to it (3 so far). Werner if he can contribute 5 goals (the equivalent of double digits across a season) could make a big difference in this context.

Last season the only player other than Kane to score double figures was Son (14 in all comps). Kane, arguably the most clinical striker in the world, scored 30 league goals last season but we are well on the way to replacing those goals. Werner could help with that, even if he’s not as clinical as ideally we would like.
Our game is about intensity and we are seeing players come on after 60 mins who are dynamic and lots of pace. It doesn’t work if that can’t be maintained. Werner has great pace and also is a player that turns defenders quickly in small spaces.
Out defence needs to grow, yes but I do see merit in taking a loan chance on him now Veliz is out and Son is away. There’s a few more weeks to go in the window. If Dier is gone, I’d expect another defender in. But with VDV ready to come back, Romero to return, it’s more about consistency and momentum at the back right now.
 

dontcallme

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Mar 18, 2005
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So we start Richarlison and Brennan Johnson with no backup for a month, and we complain and moan about Timo Werner? That's madness.
There's almost no complaining or moaning in this thread.

A few that don't rate him and a few on the fence, but that's it.
 

luRRka

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Was listening to it while in the car, he did mention Havertz/Arsenal but was happy with the money they got for a poor player. His main theme was that Timo was awful and he'd put him in his worst Chelsea 11 ever... But still crying that he was joining us
He can't have been watching Chelsea long or have a good memory. They've signed some absolute donkeys. I suppose when their fans can't even remember all the players they bought in the last couple of windows, how can they be expected to remember further back
 
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