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I thought it was 2019 but we have an option to extend it to 2020, however the extension also activates a 25m buyout clause. At least that was my understanding.
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I thought it was 2019 but we have an option to extend it to 2020, however the extension also activates a 25m buyout clause. At least that was my understanding.
Toby was the best CB in the league in 15-16. The last two years, Vertonghen has been the better player.
He's never going to get £200k a week, anywhere. CBs don't get those kinds of wages, anywhere.
United have a 5 year offer in place for him on £150k a year. Rose also, £120k. Shaw will be part of the latter.
It won't rock the foundations. We've already replaced them.
United have a 5 year offer in place for him on £150k a year. Rose also, £120k. Shaw will be part of the latter.
It won't rock the foundations. We've already replaced them.
If he doesn't wanna sign I'd just keep him until the final year
If someone wants to activate the 25million for a then 30 year old then cool . He gave us good service
But the mistakes came from our full backs?For all of our good work last night it still showed that we need Toby for the second leg. I doubt we'd get away with mistakes like that twice against opposition of that quality.
Toby, and to some extent Dier, is better at reading situations and completing cover for aggresive fullbacks better than Sanchez is (today). I actually think Sanchez has gotten better as the season has gone on at reading these danger situations but his execution has whiffed or been duped too easily at times. Example from the Arsenal game where Sanchez accurately reads the Lacazette throughball late on but misses and steps over rather than clearing the ball to Neptune which plays Lacazette through. Jan and Toby are both elite in these situations whereas I think Sanchez is probably a 7/10 which is by no means bad but can be exploited over 90 mins.But the mistakes came from our full backs?
United have a 5 year offer in place for him on £150k a year. Rose also, £120k. Shaw will be part of the latter.
It won't rock the foundations. We've already replaced them.
But the mistakes came from our full backs?
Toby, and to some extent Dier, is better at reading situations and completing cover for aggresive fullbacks better than Sanchez is (today). I actually think Sanchez has gotten better as the season has gone on at reading these danger situations but his execution has whiffed or been duped too easily at times. Example from the Arsenal game where Sanchez accurately reads the Lacazette throughball late on but misses and steps over rather than clearing the ball to Neptune which plays Lacazette through. Jan and Toby are both elite in these situations whereas I think Sanchez is probably a 7/10 which is by no means bad but can be exploited over 90 mins.
(a) I thought Sanchez had a real tough time last night. Not knocking him as a player and still think he will be a beast longterm, but times last night were as out of depth as I think he's been all season--again, not knocking him, it is an accomplishment that as a 21 y/o I found this performance to be mostly an anomaly.
(b) In a back 3 much like the one we used against Madrid, with Davo in the center and Toby on the right, Toby offers a huge amount of protection for our fullbacks. I would like to see this used in the return leg, because despite the way we looked dominant for much of the game (feels amazing to be writing that), Juve had a ton of space on the counter and I thought looked threatening throughout.
(c) I think posters on here have been thoroughly underrating Toby since he's been out. It is now a common trope to see people writing how Jan is better, but I don't get the point of that--we are lucky to have both! Perhaps some are bracing for his departure, and trying to rationalize. Bottom line: I think Toby is the most composed defender on the team in terms of getting someone off the ball and not looking rattled...pretty much ever. (We miss his diagonals too, but that is for another post). I think he would have really tightened up our backline yesterday, and I agree we sorely missed him.
Edit: just to clarify, Jan is an incredible defender too! But I do think they defend someone differently, and Toby is our best defender at reading situations, making preemptive challenges and straight bullying attackers off the ball, which would have really helped shut down the space we gave Juve yesterday.
These are both good posts, but I don't know if a back 3/5 would've made a difference to the mistakes that lead to the penalties, I guess we'll never know.
With Aurier we've seen that kind of mistake before, but with Davies it was out of character.
Toby signed a 5 year contract with us which spands to 2020. Is there any doubt over this?
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/dream-come-true-for-toby-080715/
Yeah I'm a bit worried about Costa's pace versus Trips tbh.Obviously we'll never know, but I do think in a back 3 Aurier would have/Trips will be (next leg) less likely to face Douglas Costa barreling down on them 1 on 1. That was pretty damn scary.
Because I would imagine that unlike Suarez, Toby's agent has made it legally binding.Has everyone forgotten about when Liverpool took Suarez'a release clause and wiped their arses with it? Why couldn't we do the same?
Has everyone forgotten about when Liverpool took Suarez'a release clause and wiped their arses with it? Why couldn't we do the same?