Portsmouth Reject £30M Offer....

[fazza]

I cant see pavyuchenko being here for too long to be honest

I agree, I think his future alone rests on weather Arshavin comes in. If he does I think he will improve if not I fear he will be slowly forced out.

 

[Mr Gamgee]

Quote from Sir Bill:
"It is better to fail aiming high,
Than to succeed aiming low.
And we of Spurs have set our sights very high,
So high in fact that even failure,
Will have in it an echo of glory."

what im trying to say is that we should be buying players who are good enough to get us to finish in the top 4(next season). This season mid-table would be a decent finish for us as we only has 2 after 10 games. IMO only Glenn Johnson would be a decent buy. may be Crouch or Defoe as a 3rd/4th choice striker.

Definitely not all 3.

I disagree, look at Villa this season. They havent got a load of superstars in there team. Just a good balance of players with pace and determenation and they are ENGLISH. Id rather we bought types of players villa have bought than a few players who we tempt with inflated wages and then go when we dont get champs league football within a year.

Who do you think we could attract right now that is better than those three?

 

[DC_Boy]

crouch and defoe exactly the type of strikers we need

the big/strong forward plus the speedy goal scorer

with those two i'd be confident of survival this year
whether we'll get them ....

 

[ChRiStOpHe]

I disagree, look at Villa this season. They havent got a load of superstars in there team. Just a good balance of players with pace and determenation and they are ENGLISH. Id rather we bought types of players villa have bought than a few players who we tempt with inflated wages and then go when we dont get champs league football within a year.

Who do you think we could attract right now that is better than those three?

Tom's right.

Friedel - solid keeper who knows the league.
L.Young - Experienced Premier League player (ex-Charlton captain?).
Davies - Young English defender.
Reo-Coker - Young but experienced Premier League player (ex-West Ham captain).
Sidwell - Knows the English game, proven Premier League player
A.Young - Young English winger.
Carew - Journeyman striker

I would have probably turned my nose up at signing most of the above, but all have proven to be top purchases. With the exception of Carew, all of the above have Premier League experience. They were sensible buys (no big names) that fitted the system O'Neill wanted. It's just sad they used our own blueprint to do it :-(

 

[Bromavinci]

Some of you seem to STILL not get it..

1) We are only out of the bottom three on goal difference
2) its the Jan transfer window not the summer
3) Man City are floating around with cash to splash (assume then that clubs will attempt to get bidding wars going)
4) Harry has said he is not taking a risk on anyone he doesnt know
5) Every man and his dog knows we need to (and, in fact, are) buy and buy now

The above points are only a few of the reasons why getting ANYONE, anyone at all, in this window is going to be very very difficult.. I think we have to accept that its going to require alot of money, a club willing to sell (not wait and see if Man City come in at the 11th hour), and importantly, the player actually fancying coming here and getting into a relegation dog fight...

 

[Real_madyidd]

I cant see pavyuchenko being here for too long to be honest

I agree with that statement. I think he deserves better than our "support".

 

[There's always next year]

Some of you seem to STILL not get it..

1) We are only out of the bottom three on goal difference
2) its the Jan transfer window not the summer
3) Man City are floating around with cash to splash (assume then that clubs will attempt to get bidding wars going)
4) Harry has said he is not taking a risk on anyone he doesnt know
5) Every man and his dog knows we need to (and, in fact, are) buy and buy now

The above points are only a few of the reasons why getting ANYONE, anyone at all, in this window is going to be very very difficult.. I think we have to accept that its going to require alot of money, a club willing to sell (not wait and see if Man City come in at the 11th hour), and importantly, the player actually fancying coming here and getting into a
relegation dog fight...

You are quite condesending with your comments

1. We know we are in a relegation battle
2. We know it's January not Summer, but that should not blunt our ambitions to look to sign the very best available.
3. If you were to believe the papers Man City are going to sign 101 players for a combined fee of £1bn in January. Lets be honest, they can't sign everybody, secondly, no top class player is going to go there unless they are greedy bastards. which probably counts for a few, but not the majority.
4. I worry that Harry is looking at players he knows, but they are never top 4/5 players, so we will have this never ending term of under achieving.
5. Of course they do, especially when you sell your best striker for £31m 30 seconds before the end of the last window. Everyone knows we have cash and we have bought a pile of shite in the form of Pavlyuchenko and the on loan arse Campbell. This why we are offering silly money for the likes of Bellamy

 

[Bromavinci]

You are quite condesending with your comments

1. We know we are in a relegation battle
2. We know it's January not Summer, but that should not blunt our ambitions to look to sign the very best available.
3. If you were to believe the papers Man City are going to sign 101 players for a combined fee of £1bn in January. Lets be honest, they can't sign everybody, secondly, no top class player is going to go there unless they are greedy bastards. which probably counts for a few, but not the majority.
4. I worry that Harry is looking at players he knows, but they are never top 4/5 players, so we will have this never ending term of under achieving.
5. Of course they do, especially when you sell your best striker for £31m 30 seconds before the end of the last window. Everyone knows we have cash and we have bought a pile of shite in the form of Pavlyuchenko and the on loan arse Campbell. This why we are offering silly money for the likes of Bellamy

1. Which will limit the choice of players who will WANT to come
2. Which will limit the choice of players available
3. Which wont stop selling clubs holding out to see if ManCity bid, thus making end of January, not the start of January more likely as the 'busy' period
4. Which he has already publicly said he is doing
5. Which will make replacing them even harder

What I was trying to point out to some people on here, NOT everyone, is that players like Arshavin (for example) are a pipe dream. Look even Bellamy, Crouch, Defoe seem out of reach at the moment..so getting ANYONE who will improve us in is going to be difficult

 

[Max_Junglie]

Defoe came, scored 1 in 3 and then went. Why on earth would Levy sanction a deal to bring back a player who wouldnt sign a contract (regardless of the reasons) for more money than he sold him for?

I think this is a very important point. Mr Levy has often been accused of being concerned only with his balance sheet and turning a profit. Presumably, he is as interested in long term as short term gain. Given that, I can't see him sanctioning the purchase of two players (for a huge amount more than we sold them for) who were considered surplus to requirements - Defoe, because of his contract wrangling (a surefire way to alienate Mr Levy, if ever there was one), and Crouch because, once defenders have got used to the fact that he's a freak, aren't troubled by him.

This story sounds like the media trying to stoke up a bit of transfer window interest more than anything else. Harry, more than anyone, must know how unrealistic a bid like this is. One of them may perhaps be achievable, but all three? No chance.

If we sign anyone from another PL club we will have to pay well over their true value IMO.

Quote from Sir Bill:
"It is better to fail aiming high,
Than to succeed aiming low.
And we of Spurs have set our sights very high,
So high in fact that even failure,
Will have in it an echo of glory."

A timely reminder, good work.
:clap:

 

[johnmc]

"What I was trying to point out to some people on here, NOT everyone, is that players like Arshavin (for example) are a pipe dream. Look even Bellamy, Crouch, Defoe seem out of reach at the moment..so getting ANYONE in is going to be difficult"
Certainly can't argue with that statement Bromavinci. I have just one question, and it's addressed to Levy. Just where exactly has all our money gone?

 

[brasil_spur]

Some of you seem to STILL not get it..

1) We are only out of the bottom three on goal difference
Yes but then we are only 3 points from 11th and 8 points from 7th and possible UEFA qualification

2) its the Jan transfer window not the summer
Defoe joined and left in Jan, Woodgate joined in Jan....etc......
3) Man City are floating around with cash to splash (assume then that clubs will attempt to get bidding wars going)
Man City are only going to buy a certain number of players, i.e. Max. 2 strikers, Max. 4 midfielders etc.... Also most of their buys will be in the Robinho mould rather than the Defoe mould - can you imagine how ineffectual a Defoe and Robinho partnership would be????
4) Harry has said he is not taking a risk on anyone he doesnt know
How many players do you think Harry doesn't know???? He is Mr Wheeler and Dealer - he knows pretty much everyone we would to sign.
5) Every man and his dog knows we need to (and, in fact, are) buy and buy now
I really don't understand this point

as for Johnson, this would be the 4th addition in RB within 12 months :think: .. even if Corluka would moved to CB for permanent rule to replace King, we would be with other 3 good ones if we signed Glen Johnson, unless Harry would sent Hutton back to his home or trying to get ride of other Welsh man in Gunter ( with big regret ! ) . Btw, Corluka actually would be good CB but he would be RCB while Woodgate doing well there, the problem is Woodgate struggled as LCB when King missing. So I think signing Distan/Upson is better than Johnson, and could be good replacement for King, who isn't looking good enough physically any longer as his importance in the team now his leadership for the backline.

Upson will never come to Spurs, he's a massive Gooner and gagging for a move back there. I think Woodgate could be coached into playing at LCB, he just needs some practice and guidance.

 

[bogosian]

we need to realise where we are - the top 4 are stronger than ever and there is a new player around with massive financial support in citeh.

we were just driven a few years back and are starting to recover from the worst turmoil this club experienced in many years.

i reckon 'arry was brought in as a part of plan to stabilise the club (his a mediocre midtable manager as simple as that) and supply some continuity to our results. therefore we are into a totally different situation now - we trying to achieve consistant european footie and fight the other midtable teams.

the top 4 finish goal and the unrealistic transfer targets associated with it (both being costly and risky plus coming only to be around for a year or two and then f** off) are history for now.

reality. :shrug:

 

[brasil_spur]

we need to realise where we are - the top 4 are stronger than ever and there is a new player around with massive financial support in citeh.

we were just driven a few years back and are starting to recover from the worst turmoil this club experienced in many years.

i reckon 'arry was brought in as a part of plan to stabilise the club (his a mediocre midtable manager as simple as that) and supply some continuity to our results. therefore we are into a totally different situation now - we trying to achieve consistant european footie and fight the other midtable teams.

the top 4 finish goal and the unrealistic transfer targets associated with it (both being costly and risky plus coming only to be around for a year or two and then f** off) are history for now.

reality. :shrug:

Sounds a bit dramatic to me, i think people are over-playing our current situation. We are in about the same position as this time last year, what with a manager gone and all. Yet last season was arguabley our most successful season in 9 years. So don't get too worried yet, we are still in the UEFA and FA cups, will are in a very winnable CC semi-final and are only 8 points from a potential European spot in the league.

 

[tony0379]

I'll believe jackshit until see them holding the shirt next to Redknapp uncontrollably twtching away with happiness!

I learnt a very harsh lesson last transfer window

 

[There's always next year]

1. Which will limit the choice of players who will WANT to come
2. Which will limit the choice of players available
3. Which wont stop selling clubs holding out to see if ManCity bid, thus making end of January, not the start of January more likely as the 'busy' period
4. Which he has already publicly said he is doing
5. Which will make replacing them even harder

What I was trying to point out to some people on here, NOT everyone, is that players like Arshavin (for example) are a pipe dream. Look even Bellamy, Crouch, Defoe seem out of reach at the moment..so getting ANYONE who will improve us in is going to be difficult

I agree that Arshavin, Capel and Sergio Garcia are now pipe dreams, but I worry that we will take what ever is available at a over inflated price. In the summer we would have all caused a riot if we were linked to Bellemy, Hunt and Doyle. The Downing saga is still there. I think this needs closure, either buy him for £15m or finally walk away once and for all.

Like you, I do believe that it is going to be very difficult to get the right players at the right price. This is the dilema facing Harry and Levy.

 

[Mr Gamgee]

"What I was trying to point out to some people on here, NOT everyone, is that players like Arshavin (for example) are a pipe dream. Look even Bellamy, Crouch, Defoe seem out of reach at the moment..so getting ANYONE in is going to be difficult"
Certainly can't argue with that statement Bromavinci. I have just one question, and it's addressed to Levy. Just where exactly has all our money gone?

New stadiums dont come for free

 

[brasil_spur]

New stadiums dont come for free

They don't, but in the end us supporters do end up paying for them, and they immediately become assets to a club, so for example if they spend £400m building a new stadium and then recoup say £200m in the first 3 years through increased ticket sales and sale of re-developed land around the stadium, then the net cost after 3 years sits at about £200m, which pretty much goes straight onto the price of the club if they wanted to sell it on. So really all this stadium is doing is tying up some of our short to medium term cash flow.

Anyway enough of that, we have around £20-25m to spend, before we sell this window, and say we sold the following players we could have even more:

Rocha - £1m
Gilberto - £1m
Jenas or Zokora - £9m
Boateng - £2m
Ghaly - £1m
Taarabt - £1m
TOTAL: £15m

so potentially we could spend £40m, but i think more likely we'll spend around £30m max.

 

[hughy]

It amazes me that people say players wouldn't want to come to WHL because of our league position. Decent players will always want to come to us, because we are one of the biggest clubs in England.

 

[There's always next year]

I'll believe jackshit until see them holding the shirt next to Redknapp uncontrollably twtching away with happiness!

I learnt a very harsh lesson last transfer window

 

[bubble07]

if this is try Redknapp read my post the other day when I said we should use all of the berbatov money to get crouch defe and johnson. The problem is it would take 40m which is a hell of a lot but for the first time in recent windows we are desperate and need to pay over the odds this time to get us out of this mess

3 realistic experienced premiership players that redknapp knows that will improve the squad. We could then finally see a strike partnership rather 2 people playing upfront not knowing what each other are doing

All we then need is wayne bridge for a solid left back and move corluka to defensive mid and I can see us have a very good second hlf of the season