Question about our youngsters.

[TheGreenLily]

I have been looking here, there and everywhere without much success or just being a retard, but is there a list of our youngsters coming through and where they actually play on the pitch.

I know we have a lot potential coming through and IMO, I think it would be worth while selling the likes of Lennon, Townsend, Kaboul, Dawson, Dembele (injury prone) Rose, Naughton, Fryers, Ade (Do you honestly believe that he would survive someone like LVG with his antics?), Verts and Lloris if they both decide to go and promote a lot of youngsters up to keep our home grown quota nice. The use the money from the sale of the players to address some areas on the pitch that need urgent addressing, like LB, CB (Dawson injury prone/not good enough and Kaboul who is injury prone) and a new right back (unless Walker develops a brain).

Unfortunately I know not where the younger players actually play, so I can't think about how I would like us to look at the start of next season.

I would really like to use a lot of youngster in the squad the squad for next season and actually use the money from sales where it is actually needed.

So something like this, but I can't do it properly as I don't know where the hell play.

Chadli/Youngster ---------- Soldado/Kane ---------- Lamela/Ceballos

Eriksen/Carroll --------------- Paulinho/Holtby
Sandro/Capoue

New/Youngster ----- Verts?/New? ----- Vlad/Veljkovic ----- Walker?/Fredricks

Lloris?/Gomes/Youngster
​

Bentaleb - DM
Falque - ARM, I think
Pritchard - ?
Winks - ACM?
Coulibaly - CF
Mason - ?
Obika - CF
Coulthirst - CF

Do we actually have any young ALM that would play in Chadli/Townsends role?

 

[SlickMongoose]

The general youth thread is the best bet if you have a specific query. But part of the problem is that a lot of our youth players have quite flexible positions. E.g. Pritchard, Falque and Ceballos can all play anywhere in the 3 of a 4-2-3-1.

Pritchard played more on the left last season for the U-21's, but plays more on the right for Swindon.
Mason was a 10 for our youth teams, a CM for Yeovil, a RW for doncaster and an AM for Swindon.
Winks is a small technical CM. Coulthirst is a striker but has sometimes played out wide for the youth teams.

I wouldn't describe Bentaleb as a DM either, he got forward plenty for the U21's.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

We have not had a dedicated left winger since Bale (only a season I know) and before that Ginola. In between we like to put people there who can do a job.

To keep your FM refs Chadli (AMC), Townsend (AMR)

As for youngsters we have that Mcevoy kid who is AML, I think (the one who looks like Bale)

 

[deckchair]

I know we have a lot potential coming through and IMO, I think it would be worth while selling the likes of Lennon, Townsend, Kaboul, Dawson, Dembele (injury prone) Rose, Naughton, Fryers, Ade (Do you honestly believe that he would survive someone like LVG with his antics?), Verts and Lloris if they both decide to go and promote a lot of youngsters up to keep our home grown quota nice. The use the money from the sale of the players to address some areas on the pitch that need urgent addressing, like LB, CB (Dawson injury prone/not good enough and Kaboul who is injury prone) and a new right back (unless Walker develops a brain).

If we sell all those players it will be more than just LB, CB and RB that need addressing

 

[TheGreenLily]

The general youth thread is the best bet if you have a specific query. But part of the problem is that a lot of our youth players have quite flexible positions. E.g. Pritchard, Falque and Ceballos can all play anywhere in the 3 of a 4-2-3-1.

Pritchard played more on the left last season for the U-21's, but plays more on the right for Swindon.
Mason was a 10 for our youth teams, a CM for Yeovil, a RW for doncaster and an AM for Swindon.
Winks is a small technical CM. Coulthirst is a striker but has sometimes played out wide for the youth teams.

I wouldn't describe Bentaleb as a DM either, he got forward plenty for the U21's.

Cheers, so it is going to be a head ache for me

Lovely, just like Spurs.

 

[SlickMongoose]

I thought McEvoy usually plays on the right?

Pritchard is probably our best bet for an AML in the short term (and i'd like to see him get some game time next season). Oduwa is a great AML at U-18 level but is probably a few years away.

 

[TheGreenLily]

I thought McEvoy usually plays on the right?

Pritchard is probably our best bet for an AML in the short term (and i'd like to see him get some game time next season). Oduwa is a great AML at U-18 level but is probably a few years away.

Thank you, I appreciate it

I really don't think we need to much going forward and nothing that giving the youngsters try wouldn't hurt. Especially, "if" LVG comes, it would give him plenty of options and he establish a young squad for the greater long term.

 

[spurs9]

I have been looking here, there and everywhere without much success or just being a retard, but is there a list of our youngsters coming through and where they actually play on the pitch.

I know we have a lot potential coming through and IMO, I think it would be worth while selling the likes of Lennon, Townsend, Kaboul, Dawson, Dembele (injury prone) Rose, Naughton, Fryers, Ade (Do you honestly believe that he would survive someone like LVG with his antics?), Verts and Lloris if they both decide to go and promote a lot of youngsters up to keep our home grown quota nice. The use the money from the sale of the players to address some areas on the pitch that need urgent addressing, like LB, CB (Dawson injury prone/not good enough and Kaboul who is injury prone) and a new right back (unless Walker develops a brain).

Unfortunately I know not where the younger players actually play, so I can't think about how I would like us to look at the start of next season.

I would really like to use a lot of youngster in the squad the squad for next season and actually use the money from sales where it is actually needed.

So something like this, but I can't do it properly as I don't know where the hell play.

Chadli/Youngster ---------- Soldado/Kane ---------- Lamela/Ceballos

Eriksen/Carroll --------------- Paulinho/Holtby
Sandro/Capoue

New/Youngster ----- Verts?/New? ----- Vlad/Veljkovic ----- Walker?/Fredricks

Lloris?/Gomes/Youngster
​

Bentaleb - DM
Falque - ARM, I think
Pritchard - ?
Winks - ACM?
Coulibaly - CF
Mason - ?
Obika - CF
Coulthirst - CF

Do we actually have any young ALM that would play in Chadli/Townsends role?

Bentaleb - CM
Falque - AM R/C/L
Pritchard - AM R/C/L
Cebellos- AM R/C/L
Winks - CM
Coulibaly - SC
Mason - AMC/FC
Obika - SC
Coulthirst - SC
Veljkovic - D/DMC (has played only DMC for last 6-12 months, but still CB for national team)
McEvoy - AM L/R (Left footed).
Gomelt - AMR/Support Striker

One thing to remember is as the players are developing their roles/positions may change.

 

[spurs9]

Thank you, I appreciate it

I really don't think we need to much going forward and nothing that giving the youngsters try wouldn't hurt. Especially, "if" LVG comes, it would give him plenty of options and he establish a young squad for the greater long term.

I think a LB is a must as the only youngster in that position who, ATM, looks like he might make it is Ogilvie and he has a few years of development to go. Also I think we need a CB and a sub GK (unless we sign Friedel up for another year) as Cb's develop later and the good ones are still really young and I wouldn't trust Archer to fill in in the EPL if Lloris was injured/suspended.

 

[TheGreenLily]

Bentaleb - CM
Falque - AM R/C/L
Pritchard - AM R/C/L
Cebellos- AM R/C/L
Winks - CM
Coulibaly - SC
Mason - AMC/FC
Obika - SC
Coulthirst - SC
Veljkovic - D/DMC (has played only DMC for last 6-12 months, but still CB for national team)
McEvoy - AM L/R (Left footed).
Gomelt - AMR/Support Striker

One thing to remember is as the players are developing their roles/positions may change.

Thank you


Really appreciate it

 

[Dougal]

Disappointed. I was hoping this thread addressed the issue of low hanging pants and constant mobile usage.

 

[jezz]

Disappointed. I was hoping this thread addressed the issue of low hanging pants and constant mobile usage.

Tesco mobile have a capped contract, i use them for my daughters contract, saved me a fortune.
Buy frilly mickey mouse pants, sorted

 

[Breezer]

Our most talented youngster coming through is Joshua Onamah. Very big expectations for him.

But if you go even younger we have two Spanish twin brothers in our under 14s. Only seen them play once but they stood out from the rest.

Get them in the first team!

 

[dagraham]

I really don't think we need to much going forward and nothing that giving the youngsters try wouldn't hurt. Especially, "if" LVG comes, it would give him plenty of options and he establish a young squad for the greater long term.

You think we can sell Ade and just go with Soldado/youngster as our forward options? Apart from Stoke and Newcastle, no one in the top half has scored less tha us. And most of those few goals are down to Ade.

If the league this year has shown us anything, it's that quality up front and in the final third is paramount. I get the impression that some think that all we have to do is play Lamela and,hey presto, we'll be scoring goals for fun. Also, what about injuries/suspension/loss of form/competition for places?

Anyway, regarding the younsters generally, I too don't much about them. I know Prichard is highly rated but I don't really know how he is doing on loan and if he's ready to step up like Bentelab for example.

 

[TheGreenLily]

You think we can sell Ade and just go with Soldado/youngster as our forward options? Apart from Stoke and Newcastle, no one in the top half has scored less tha us. And most of those few goals are down to Ade.

If the league this year has shown us anything, it's that quality up front and in the final third is paramount. I get the impression that some think that all we have to do is play Lamela and,hey presto, we'll be scoring goals for fun. Also, what about injuries/suspension/loss of form/competition for places?

Anyway, regarding the younsters generally, I too don't much about them. I know Prichard is highly rated but I don't really know how he is doing on loan and if he's ready to step up like Bentelab for example.

IMO, I think that:

1) Ade is overrated, people seem to forget that he only scored 4 goal all season, although he did well in his first season, even then he went missing far to often.

2) Has the first touch of a sledge hammer

3) IMO, is not going to like working under some like LVG, who will certainly not massage Ade's ego.

4) We can't afford to pay £180k a week for a half decent striker, once ManC stops paying their share,

As for the Lamela comment, it was more about creating chances from him that people are hoping to see, a bit of flair an creativity for some like Soldado to thrive on. The thing is, we have good strikers, really good strikers, our problem is, that the service is shit to them. Yes, I agree it has improved from totally shit too shit though.

I think we have a lot of youngsters that can come in across the field with some young desire to succeed, that would really help us. Kane, Cellebos, Bentaleb, Pritchard, Coulibaly, Carroll, Fredricks, Falque, Mason, Coulthirst and Veljkovic, possibly a few others. I am tired of our so called senior players not having the brains to see runs, pass a ball forward forward or to some more than 5 feet away without giving it away. Drives me nuts...

 

[Disconosebleed]

There is nothing beyond pure hope and wild speculation to suggest that any of our youngsters are close to being ready for the first team. Pritchard is seen as the great (lily)white hope, but he's only doing 'quite well' two leagues below us. Carroll flits in and out of an underperforming QPR team managed by a coach who trusts him. Mason is now playing at a lower level than he was a couple of years ag.

Don't take this as negativity - I'm not saying that none of these players will ever be good enough, and there could be good reasons for Pritchard being blooded in League One rather than the Championship for example, not to mention that there are kids at the lower age groups (Winks and Onomah the obvious examples) who aren't available on loan at the moment because we feel their talent is best served staying with us. All I'm saying is it is a HUGE leap of faith to assume any of these kids could replace anyone in our current side, when none of them have any Premier League experience. IMO there are only two youngsters out on loan, Holtby and Livermore, who you could confidently say would be good enough to come back next season and go straight into the first team squad, and neither of them are as good as the players that you're suggesting they replace.

The idea is to blood these kids gently, unless you've got a kid who is clearly destined for stardom - which we don't have. A Europa League dead rubber here, 20 minutes in the League Cup there. There's nothing to suggest we've got a Class Of '92 group we can throw in safe in the knowledge that they're all going to be good enough to replace seasoned professionals.

 

[kaz Hirai]

Worth selling the likes of Townsend? I know he hasn't lived up to his early over the top hype but he's only 22. Playing in his first full prem season

We really don't do patience with players

 

[eddiebailey]

Townsend and Rose were integrated into the team this season after successful Premiership league loans; both started the season well, and though neither has looked right since coming back from injury, I am not inclined to give up on them.

Livermore and Holtby have proved themselves in the Premiership, as has Falque in Spain. These are players who could definitely come into the squad, but do they offer anything we do not already have? Livermore is the one I think could make a difference.

Sherwood has given chances to Bentaleb, Kane and Fryers, and they are worth persevering with.

Mason has such potential, but is plagued by injuries. I would give up on loaning him and just put him in the first team squad for a season to see what he can do. Carroll has not had a fantastic season at QPR, but like Mason offers the hope of creativity.

Pritchard, Ceballos, Velkovic, Gomelt and Fredericks I would be inclined to loan out; they are not ready be regular starters and would be unlikely to get sufficient game time to progress. Perhaps Archer too.

We should of course resign Caulker, and I hope we are keeping an eye on some of the other lads we have let go,

It is not a golden generation, but with the young players we have bought in, such as Lamela and Eriksen, we do perhaps have the making of a team for the future.

 

[yojambo]

Worth selling the likes of Townsend? I know he hasn't lived up to his early over the top hype but he's only 22. Playing in his first full prem season

We really don't do patience with players

Yeah cant really see the logic in selling Townsend (22) who has broken into the first team for someone like Iago Falque (24)