Race for 4th (or higher) 4.0

[tobi]

Sorry not buying all this bullshit.

Its simple for me, had we prioritised the League over the Europa League we would of cruised it. I don't give a feck who thinks it wouldn't of made a difference, it would of.

Today was always going to be tricky, a point isn't a bad point if you look at it objectively. Dropping three points at home to Fulham, 2 points at home to Stoke....these are the sort of the games were we fucked it.

Where is the evidence to support this?

People said not being in the Europa League would indirectly result in less laboured performances, in the last two games I've seen no evidence of this.

Were not Man Utd, we can't cruise anything.

 

[stov]

When people say its in our hands they do realise we have to beat chelsea at stamford bridge don't they?

not necessarily- a draw could be good enough

 

[EnfieldYiddo]

However you dress it up, seems to always come back to the game at Stamford bridge. Huge, huge game

 

[tototoner]

I thought we had 4 games left to play in the league this season. Long way from over yet.

 

[nav007_2000]

I'm just hoping the Chelsea players are very tired by the time we play them. For some reason we are up for it against the bigger teams yet don't turn up for teams such as Wigan.

 

[harrowspurs]

In my humble opinion we will miss out on 4th down to losing at home to Fulham that result was a real kick in the teeth for us,today was a must win and after all the years ive been following Spurs I HAVE NO FAITH in us winning a "must win game"..its just typical spurs and typical of Arsenal beating United tomorrow thats out game in hand gone.

Im still fumng over that Fulham result more than todays. i hope and pray im wrong but somehow i dont think im going to be.

 

[haxman]

As much as im behind AVB if he fails to deliver top 4 he has a lot to answer for imo good young manager but a long way to go before he is considered a brillant manager.

I have said it time and time again the decision not to strengthen properly would cost us and it is looking very much that way.

That's hardly AVB's fault, is it? We're really short in key areas. Only so much the manager can do in that situation.

I'd sooner look at Levy or our scouting network.

 

[carpediem991]

We got 2 out of 6 against Norwich
We got 1 out of 6 against Wigan

Could be useful 9 points more....

 

[RichSpur58]

Manchester city away a few seasons ago was an anomaly. I have no faith in us winning a must-win game.

Agreed. I never ever thought we would win today. After beating city I knew we would fall down today.

 

[RichSpur58]

In my humble opinion we will miss out on 4th down to losing at home to Fulham that result was a real kick in the teeth for us,today was a must win and after all the years ive been following Spurs I HAVE NO FAITH in us winning a "must win game"..its just typical spurs and typical of Arsenal beating United tomorrow thats out game in hand gone.

Im still fumng over that Fulham result more than todays. i hope and pray im wrong but somehow i dont think im going to be.

What winds me up is Tottenham always gives you a glimmer of hope, but ultimately fails when the promised land is in reach.

 

[keepthehomefiresburning]

That's hardly AVB's fault, is it? We're really short in key areas. Only so much the manager can do in that situation.

Well for a start he shouldn't come out with stupid comments like 2 strikers for a season is enough when it clearly isn't and then launch a last minute bid for damaio. Yes levy needs to take a massive amount of blame but so does avb.

I'm fully behind avb but reality if it is anything other than top4 isn't good enough imo I just hope in the summer massive changes happen.

 

[nav007_2000]

Seeing Newcastle get demolished at home, I can't see anything but an Arsenal win there on the last day

 

[Shea]

Seeing Newcastle get demolished at home, I can't see anything but an Arsenal win there on the last day

Yea that thought was crossing my mind too

But I guess gooner fans would be thinking the same about us facing Southampton next week after they were dealt with comfortably at home today and already have worse away form

We need Man U to beat Arsenal that's a must, shame is Utd have nothing to play for and have been celebrating this week

No major banana skin for them after tomorrow but I bet they thought the same of us vs Wigan - only we as Spurs fans knew the reality was we were always destined to throw away our hard work against City so we could build more tension for the Chelsea game

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

What winds me up is Tottenham always gives you a glimmer of hope, but ultimately fails when the promised land is in reach.

It's a bit like being buggered one after the other by a long line of geysers dressed up as characters from Disney's Jungle Book. Hard to take at first, but eventually you start whistling i'm the king of the swingers. At least that's my guess. Cough

It wound me up for the first 20 years. Now I just laugh in the face of hope and sneeze on the backside of expectation. It make the highs so much sweeter

 

[Mr Pink]

Where is the evidence to support this?

People said not being in the Europa League would indirectly result in less laboured performances, in the last two games I've seen no evidence of this.

Were not Man Utd, we can't cruise anything.

The extra games, mid week etc, do make a difference. If they didn't Chelsea wouldn't be making changes to their teams at the moment would they....they have the squad to make more changes, we didn't really...but that's why the League should of been prioritised a bit more over the Europa League.

At the end of the day people don't want to rationalise it, but its the bottom line I'm afraid.

 

[Shea]

The extra games, mid week etc, do make a difference. If they didn't Chelsea wouldn't be making changes to their teams at the moment would they....they have the squad to make more changes, we didn't really...but that's why the League should of been prioritised a bit more over the Europa League.

At the end of the day people don't want to rationalise it, but its the bottom line I'm afraid.

I don't know how anyone can disagree that EL has had a negative impact on our league form, of course it has

Whether or not people think we should have played weaker teams to prioritise the league is a different matter all together because some people think the chance of silverware in a European competition is more important and others feel the be all and end all is playing in the CL and raising our profile whilst generating bigger income

Arguments can be made one way or the other for that but to suggest we wouldn't have performed better with a lesser fixture list is absurd to me - not to mention the fact Bale was injured in a Europa league game and missed a league game we dropped points in as a result, had he played it's perfectly plausible we'd have beat Everton

 

[tobi]

The extra games, mid week etc, do make a difference. If they didn't Chelsea wouldn't be making changes to their teams at the moment would they....they have the squad to make more changes, we didn't really...but that's why the League should of been prioritised a bit more over the Europa League.

At the end of the day people don't want to rationalise it, but its the bottom line I'm afraid.

Chelsea's situation is self explanatory but regarding us, since the exit, I don't see a difference.

A full weeks rest between games (plus a ten day gap before the Man City game) yet the majority of both games has been sluggish, lacking in any tempo and general hustle. No one can put forward the tired excuse.

You said we would have cruised it if we prioritised the league, there is no evidence to support this. We prioritised the league under Harry and ultimately had to rely on another team cleaning up our mess for us.

We don't have the mentality to cruise anything, the slightest bit of pressure and most of the team buckles.

 

[Mr Pink]

Chelsea's situation is self explanatory but regarding us, since the exit, I don't see a difference.

A full weeks rest between games (plus a ten day gap before the Man City game) yet the majority of both games has been sluggish, lacking in any tempo and general hustle. No one can put forward the tired excuse.

You said we would have cruised it if we prioritised the league, there is no evidence to support this. We prioritised the league under Harry and ultimately had to rely on another team cleaning up our mess for us.

We don't have the mentality to cruise anything, the slightest bit of pressure and most of the team buckles.

Ok, don't compare two different seasons, under two different managers with two different squads with a hole host of other variables to take into account.

Sometimes you have to give the opposition credit. We were shit today, but that was partly down to Wigan actually. Yes we should be beating them, yes we should of seen a better performance but they still affected that.

My point is this, had we had more points in the bag at this stage, and we bloody well should have, a frustrating draw like today wouldn't of hurt us so much.

The games like Fulham at home, after playing a full strength side for 120 minutes on the Thursday before will have an affect. Nobody is going to convince me otherwise.

Its a mental fatigue as much as a physical one as well.

 

[tobi]

I agree about mental fatigue but that's part of the game and they need to deal with it.

 

[Mr Pink]

I agree about mental fatigue but that's part of the game and they need to deal with it.

Yes, but we didn't have the squad to mount two serious challenges and go the distance in both. Was always going to end in tears as far as I was concerned.