Ramos on Football Focus

[miles_64]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/football_focus/7690676.stm

Can anybody watch this and do none of the following:

1) fall asleep?

2) get extremely frustraded with "eets a normal situacion", "the situacion ees normal" and "ees normal" again and again and again? It's not bloody NORMAL, we're bottom of the goddamned league.

3) feel that he's lying through his teeth? "The confidence in the squad is fine"...

4) wish BMJ were still here for a good old inspirational I-love-Spurs-and-Spurs-love-me interview?


I was a big Ramos fan but can you imagine being in the dressing room before a match or at half-time and being inspired by this timid man? How does he get his point across?

 

[joey55]

I think maybe in Spanish his voice doesn't seem so timid because of the different pronounciation and stress's put on certain words. But in English he sounds like a comedy character. He sonds like a confused little mouse. I genuinely think it's an issue. I think it's easy for people to say his voice and the way he speaks shouldn't matter, but I think we need to empathise what it would be like having him as your boss and trying to take him seriously. To me he just isn't a leader of men. And he isn't helped by Gus. I cant fully warn to Ramos, but I really like Gus, but I couldn't take him seriously either. They are like a comedy double act.

 

[rez9000]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/football_focus/7690676.stm

Can anybody watch this and do none of the following:

1) fall asleep?

Managed that. For me, the situation is to dire to feel sleepy.

2) get extremely frustraded with "eets a normal situacion", "the situacion ees normal" and "ees normal" again and again and again? It's not bloody NORMAL, we're bottom of the goddamned league.

Failed. Very frustrated. Everything that was said was just towing the same line.

3) feel that he's lying through his teeth? "The confidence in the squad is fine"...

I don't feel like he's lying through his teeth. I feel that either he's deluding himself or, more likely, he's been given a very short leash by the club and isn't allowed to say what he really feels.

4) wish BMJ were still here for a good old inspirational I-love-Spurs-and-Spurs-love-me interview?

Another great thing about Martin Jol. His interviews made me laugh with joy, even if he wasn't saying anything much. Even close to the end, when we were doing badly, I still looked at him and felt so much pride that he was our manager. He won us so many neutral fans, he brought repsect to the club. Since he left, we've become a laughing stock.

<sigh>

I was a big Ramos fan but can you imagine being in the dressing room before a match or at half-time and being inspired by this timid man? How does he get his point across?

I wanted Ramos to succeed too. I've backed every Spurs manager beginning with Ossie and defended them long past the time when others have been calling for their heads, but Ramos for me is a bridge too far.

 

[JamieM]

Yes, Poyet has something of Jim Carrey about him... Ramos can't really give an honest explanation when he's in the job because i) he'd get Levy in trouble ii) he'd have to admit he's been crap, but when he gets sacked I expect one almighty rant about the striker farce.

 

[donny1013]

I remember being surprised at just how good Rafa's english was when he went to Liverpool, and even Capello's english seems better than Juande's. It must be an issue surely with communication to the players. I feel a loss tomorrow and he really is on the verge of losing the dressing room. But after what we sang at the players at full time i hope they get the message and play their socks off tomorrow.

 

[Keano]

i cant understand a word he says..its all the same boring tone

 

[Warik]

I dont think you can blame the guy for this interview, he is obviously just saying what he has been told to say, and what any other manager would say in this situation.

 

[There's always next year]

He can't tell what the solution is, because he just has no idea / plan available to use to ensure we start to win games and form some kind of solidity.

It appeared to be an interview based on excuses. I remember last year Man city had a similar situation where they had a lage number of players join late and their first half of the season was very sucessful. Ramos position is no different to Sven's albeit he's already had a 75% of a season to form his game plans prior to season commencing

I'm worried that we've a manager whose tactics, game plan and motivation are suited to Spanish football and he can't or won't change this strategy here. The consequence of this is 2pts from a possible 24

 

[roosh]

just listening to the interview and paused it at 4.59mins, after Ramos has, from what I understand, said that it is possible to change the situation if we score first, if we don't score first, then it is not possible - have i completely misheard him or is he really saying this and stuff like this to the players.

even if it is just his inability to express himself, this is a very dangerous situation

 

[nuttynoah]

he did ok, it was supposed to be a relaxed interview, thats all.
have you never seen say, roy keane in an interview, he's very laid back and placid, so i don't think you can think that ramos has this interview persona in the dressing room.
for me he is the best manager we've had in a long time, for he is a winner.
being snookered by levy by not replacing berba and having some players like bentley and modic who are just nowhere near playing to their potential has put us in our current situation, sure he has made some surprising selections but which manager hasn't. if it does all turn around in the near future you can be sure that we will have a very good and cohesive team spirit, after coming back from the edge of the abyss

 

[Warik]

just listening to the interview and paused it at 4.59mins, after Ramos has, from what I understand, said that it is possible to change the situation if we score first, if we don't score first, then it is not possible - have i completely misheard him or is he really saying this and stuff like this to the players.

even if it is just his inability to express himself, this is a very dangerous situation

I think what he was saying was when you score first it is a confidence boost, and there hasnt (to my knowledge) been a time this season in the league where we have scored first.

But when considering all competitions, we do tend to play better when we have scored the first goal.

 

[joey55]

I don't see a great deal of difference from when he first arrived:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZuOnhYr1PU

Sorry the clip is so brief, but it's all I've got. He did speak for longer, but ITV only showed very brief highlights and i can't find the sky coverage.

 

[roosh]

I think what he was saying was when you score first it is a confidence boost, and there hasnt (to my knowledge) been a time this season in the league where we have scored first.

But when considering all competitions, we do tend to play better when we have scored the first goal.

I don't mean, what is he trying to say, but what he actually says is that it is possible to turn the situation around if we score first, but not possible if we concede first. Also, if he has this much trouble expressing himself in a relaxed, controlled atmoshpere - what is he like under the pressure on match day, and in particular now

by the sounds of things he believes that we cannot score goals bcos of our quality of strikers - and thees ees a deefeecul sit-su-acion - i don't get the feeling that he believes we can score, it almost just a case of waiting and hoping. it sounds as though he thinks he's done as much as he can and is just waiting, hoping, that the players will do it

this is just my interpretation of it

 

[Rupstoh]

Clearly a communication thing going on with Ramos.

It was like watching a four year old child interpret the questions.

 

[HotTotty]

He's not the man to inspire a deflated team in a relegation battle that's for sure, don't know if he's ever had a similar situation anywhere else before.. but dealing with it in your first full season at a club where you don't speak the language very well is asking a lot anyway, doesn't help that he got us in this situation!

 

[southlondonyiddo]

At one point he said 'It is impossible to score goals at the moment'

He really fills me with confidence and his charisma must surely rub off on the players. He's just like Big phil!!

 

[Supersonic]

I stopped it on around 4 minutes bored shitless.

And yes, he has basically said that if the other team scores first, we're fucked

 

[spursgirls]

just listening to the interview and paused it at 4.59mins, after Ramos has, from what I understand, said that it is possible to change the situation if we score first, if we don't score first, then it is not possible - have i completely misheard him or is he really saying this and stuff like this to the players.

even if it is just his inability to express himself, this is a very dangerous situation

I think he was trying to say that if we can score first it will give the team more confidence that they can win,(and it would kick-start our winning ways, i.e. change the situation ), but that when we go a goal down, it's much harder mentally for them to win, so we lose and it's therefore not possible to change the situation (of being bottom of the league).

I don't think he intended it to mean we can't win if we go a goal down!

 

[southlondonyiddo]

I think he was trying to say that if we can score first it will give the team more confidence that they can win,(and it would kick-start our winning ways, i.e. change the situation ), but that when we go a goal down, it's much harder mentally for them to win, so we lose and it's therefore not possible to change the situation (of being bottom of the league).

I don't think he intended it to mean we can't win if we go a goal down!

Wasn't that easy to understand exactly what he meant in any of the interview was it

How can that come across well in the dressing room or in training?

 

[spursgirls]

Wasn't that easy to understand exactly what he meant in any of the interview was it

How can that come across well in the dressing room or in training?

I think he still doesn't have the vocabulary to express himself clearly, and he needs work on his accent! Though if he's learning from Gus, I can see why his accent isn't that good lol. At least Gus can explain things to the lads in good English.....we hope!