Ratings vs Besiktas

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  • Vorm

    Votes: 4 2.7%
  • Walker

    Votes: 34 22.8%
  • Kaboul

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Chiriches

    Votes: 6 4.0%
  • Rose

    Votes: 3 2.0%
  • Dembele

    Votes: 20 13.4%
  • Stambouli

    Votes: 17 11.4%
  • Townsend

    Votes: 4 2.7%
  • Paulinho

    Votes: 11 7.4%
  • Chadli

    Votes: 6 4.0%
  • Soldado

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Lamela

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Lennon

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Capoue

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 39 26.2%

  • Total voters
    149
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#62
Sorry. I know this will disappoint. I didn't think it was a disastrously bad performance. Reserve Xl goes to Besiktas on a shitty pitch and outplays them pretty comprehensively and is very close to getting the result required to top group. Usual fuckwittedness not withstanding, of course.

I preferred Dembele in the more advanced position. I thought he ad a reasonably decent game.

Stambouli did OK. Even fucking Paulinho was a thin level above his usual meh.

Rose is a lazy fucker sometimes - and I was thinking that before Clerk Carlisle pointed it out. Honestly.

Townsend is still Townsend. Quelle Surprise.

Soldado may never score again.

I am flabbergasted that Lennon didn't come on and cause an instant tidal waive of positive energy that could be saddled and ridden by the rest of the team to a resounding victory. With all his pulling wide and making space for everyone and shit. Hey ho.

For balance's sake, should point out that Lamela came on and did an impersonation of Townsend.

Most disappointing was that the opportunity to play some of our development group, or at least have them on the bench was wasted.
 

guate

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#63
I'm not one to criticize the players but tonight was an absolute disgrace, no passion, no will to win, no creativity, nothing close to what our club once stood for,
Only Walker and Vorm came out of this game with any credit, the rest, including Mauricio, deserve a zero rating for their performance.
 

Mr Pink

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#65
Sorry. I know this will disappoint. I didn't think it was a disastrously bad performance. Reserve Xl goes to Besiktas on a shitty pitch and outplays them pretty comprehensively and is very close to getting the result required to top group. Usual fuckwittedness not withstanding, of course.

I preferred Dembele in the more advanced position. I thought he ad a reasonably decent game.

Stambouli did OK. Even fucking Paulinho was a thin level above his usual meh.

Rose is a lazy fucker sometimes - and I was thinking that before Clerk Carlisle pointed it out. Honestly.

Townsend is still Townsend. Quelle Surprise.

Soldado may never score again.

I am flabbergasted that Lennon didn't come on and cause an instant tidal waive of positive energy that could be saddled and ridden by the rest of the team to a resounding victory. With all his pulling wide and making space for everyone and shit. Hey ho.

For balance's sake, should point out that Lamela came on and did an impersonation of Townsend.

Most disappointing was that the opportunity to play some of our development group, or at least have them on the bench was wasted.
Totally agree.

I still can't believe the over reaction on here lol.
 

goughie1966

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#66
We were good against Everton. Just have a little patience and perspective. Tonight was a whole raft of changes on a shit pitch in a game that wasn't critical to win.

Do me a favour - just wait one week, and if we're as bad against Swansea, Newcastle and Burnley I'll be sharing your concern wholeheartedly.

But we won't be.
Please stop blaming the bloody pitch. These are highly paid professional footballers that should be able to pass a ball on a shitty pitch.

You know Bill Nicholson played for Spurs in their league title winning team in 1951. We were famous for our push and run football and he continued it with the double winning side when he was manager. Do you know how bad the pitches were in the 50's and 60's? They played with heavy balls and hob nailed boots (ok that's an exaggeration) but you know what I mean. But they could still play good, fast passing football.

You can go back and find plenty of teams that could play great, fast flowing entertaining football in all conditions.

Do you think this lot would not have been able to play on that pitch tonight?

 

iluvsteffenfreund

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#67
Totally agree.

I still can't believe the over reaction on here lol.
When do we address the fact that we haven't scored in the last 3 ? What happens if we don't score against Swansea ? Do we blame it on fatigue and thurs night ? We are 1 loss away from a crisis. Lose Sunday and poch will be in alsorts of bother. And so the cycle continues
 

Mr Pink

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#68
Please stop blaming the bloody pitch. These are highly paid professional footballers that should be able to pass a ball on a shitty pitch.

You know Bill Nicholson played for Spurs in their league title winning team in 1951. We were famous for our push and run football and he continued it with the double winning side when he was manager. Do you know how bad the pitches were in the 50's and 60's? They played with heavy balls and hob nailed boots (ok that's an exaggeration) but you know what I mean. But they could still play good, fast passing football.

You can go back and find plenty of teams that could play great, fast flowing entertaining football in all conditions.

Do you think this lot would not have been able to play on that pitch tonight?

I'm not blaming just the pitch - I mentioned it as a factor.

Anyway we controlled the game until Kaboul had that lapse, so I don't know what all this crying is about. It wasn't that bad a performance in all honesty.
 
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THFCSPURS19

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#69
Sorry. I know this will disappoint. I didn't think it was a disastrously bad performance. Reserve Xl goes to Besiktas on a shitty pitch and outplays them pretty comprehensively and is very close to getting the result required to top group. Usual fuckwittedness not withstanding, of course.

I preferred Dembele in the more advanced position. I thought he ad a reasonably decent game.

Stambouli did OK. Even fucking Paulinho was a thin level above his usual meh.

Rose is a lazy fucker sometimes - and I was thinking that before Clerk Carlisle pointed it out. Honestly.

Townsend is still Townsend. Quelle Surprise.

Soldado may never score again.

I am flabbergasted that Lennon didn't come on and cause an instant tidal waive of positive energy that could be saddled and ridden by the rest of the team to a resounding victory. With all his pulling wide and making space for everyone and shit. Hey ho.

For balance's sake, should point out that Lamela came on and did an impersonation of Townsend.

Most disappointing was that the opportunity to play some of our development group, or at least have them on the bench was wasted.
What did you think about Walker's performance?
 

HotspurFC1950

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#70
The Arsenal first team were playing the Besiktas first team. This was Spurs reserves against Besiktas reserves. They had 6 first choice players injured.

Oh and btw I don't go for the pitch was crap excuse. The Spurs double team had to play on some awful pitches, they managed ok. Have you seen any football from the 70's where players played on quagmires and managed to play some pretty good football. Jimmy Greaves didn't have a problem. He would've got a hat-trick playing tonight against that lot.

Except we were playing away.

We lost away to Dukla in 1961 letting in four goals to boot.
 

Mr Pink

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#71
When do we address the fact that we haven't scored in the last 3 ? What happens if we don't score against Swansea ? Do we blame it on fatigue and thurs night ? We are 1 loss away from a crisis. Lose Sunday and poch will be in alsorts of bother. And so the cycle continues
lol.

No excuses for fatigue on Sunday mate, he rested enough of them tonight.

Don't forget one of those games was Chelsea away, and the Palace game was our fourth in nine days - counting Partizan.

People are being way too dramatic.
 

jezz

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#72
When do we address the fact that we haven't scored in the last 3 ? What happens if we don't score against Swansea ? Do we blame it on fatigue and thurs night ? We are 1 loss away from a crisis. Lose Sunday and poch will be in alsorts of bother. And so the cycle continues
Over reaction central.
Lose Sunday and I'm sure you will be vocal.
Win and you will vanish
 

iluvsteffenfreund

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#73
lol.

No excuses for fatigue on Sunday mate, he rested enough of them tonight.

Don't forget one of those games was Chelsea away, and the Palace game was our fourth in nine days - counting Partizan.

People are being way too dramatic.
Come on ! If we were playing teams off the park and we were just unlucky then I would agree. But there's a poor mentality throughout our club. It's too easy to get beat and fold. We are notorious for having a soft centre and that's just what we have. And we don't have enough quality to hide that soft centre anymore. Poor poor performances have contribute to the boos and the drama ?!!!
 

Borks

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#74
Please stop blaming the bloody pitch. These are highly paid professional footballers that should be able to pass a ball on a shitty pitch.

You know Bill Nicholson played for Spurs in their league title winning team in 1951. We were famous for our push and run football and he continued it with the double winning side when he was manager. Do you know how bad the pitches were in the 50's and 60's? They played with heavy balls and hob nailed boots (ok that's an exaggeration) but you know what I mean. But they could still play good, fast passing football.

You can go back and find plenty of teams that could play great, fast flowing entertaining football in all conditions.

Do you think this lot would not have been able to play on that pitch tonight?

If a professional golfer has to putt on a bobbly green, do you expect them to be as accurate as usual? No, of course not. For me, both sides play on the same pitch so I don't really buy it as an excuse but bad pitches do often slow games down and reduce the accuracy of passing.

Maybe we should introduce an oval ball just to really make things interesting.
 

Mr Pink

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#76
Come on ! If we were playing teams off the park and we were just unlucky then I would agree. But there's a poor mentality throughout our club. It's too easy to get beat and fold. We are notorious for having a soft centre and that's just what we have. And we don't have enough quality to hide that soft centre anymore. Poor poor performances have contribute to the boos and the drama ?!!!
But those problems are not down to any one manager. Lets just give him time mate, its the only way to rid the long term issues.
 

ClintEastwould

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#78
Please stop blaming the bloody pitch. These are highly paid professional footballers that should be able to pass a ball on a shitty pitch.

You know Bill Nicholson played for Spurs in their league title winning team in 1951. We were famous for our push and run football and he continued it with the double winning side when he was manager. Do you know how bad the pitches were in the 50's and 60's? They played with heavy balls and hob nailed boots (ok that's an exaggeration) but you know what I mean. But they could still play good, fast passing football.

You can go back and find plenty of teams that could play great, fast flowing entertaining football in all conditions.

Do you think this lot would not have been able to play on that pitch tonight?

OT but there is a full match video of that game on YT as well and all I could say was damn, Charlton was some player
 

theShiznit

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#79
Please stop blaming the bloody pitch. These are highly paid professional footballers that should be able to pass a ball on a shitty pitch.

You know Bill Nicholson played for Spurs in their league title winning team in 1951. We were famous for our push and run football and he continued it with the double winning side when he was manager. Do you know how bad the pitches were in the 50's and 60's? They played with heavy balls and hob nailed boots (ok that's an exaggeration) but you know what I mean. But they could still play good, fast passing football.

You can go back and find plenty of teams that could play great, fast flowing entertaining football in all conditions.

Do you think this lot would not have been able to play on that pitch tonight?

The difference being back then shit pitches were the norm, now top players will be (un)lucky if they play on a shit pitch twice a season, their training grounds are like bowling greens too so it's understandable that play becomes slow/disjointed (more so than you'd expect even with Dembele, Paulinho and Stambouli as your cm 3)
 
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