Ratings vs Besiktas

Discussion in 'Match Ratings Archive' started by Bulletspur, Dec 11, 2014.

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  1. Vorm

    4 vote(s)
    2.7%
  2. Walker

    34 vote(s)
    22.8%
  3. Kaboul

    1 vote(s)
    0.7%
  4. Chiriches

    6 vote(s)
    4.0%
  5. Rose

    3 vote(s)
    2.0%
  6. Dembele

    20 vote(s)
    13.4%
  7. Stambouli

    17 vote(s)
    11.4%
  8. Townsend

    4 vote(s)
    2.7%
  9. Paulinho

    11 vote(s)
    7.4%
  10. Chadli

    6 vote(s)
    4.0%
  11. Soldado

    2 vote(s)
    1.3%
  12. Lamela

    1 vote(s)
    0.7%
  13. Lennon

    1 vote(s)
    0.7%
  14. Capoue

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Undecided

    39 vote(s)
    26.2%
  1. trevo

    trevo Well-Known Member

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    It was really good to see Walker back. But not most of the others.
     
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  2. Bus-Conductor

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    Sorry. I know this will disappoint. I didn't think it was a disastrously bad performance. Reserve Xl goes to Besiktas on a shitty pitch and outplays them pretty comprehensively and is very close to getting the result required to top group. Usual fuckwittedness not withstanding, of course.

    I preferred Dembele in the more advanced position. I thought he ad a reasonably decent game.

    Stambouli did OK. Even fucking Paulinho was a thin level above his usual meh.

    Rose is a lazy fucker sometimes - and I was thinking that before Clerk Carlisle pointed it out. Honestly.

    Townsend is still Townsend. Quelle Surprise.

    Soldado may never score again.

    I am flabbergasted that Lennon didn't come on and cause an instant tidal waive of positive energy that could be saddled and ridden by the rest of the team to a resounding victory. With all his pulling wide and making space for everyone and shit. Hey ho.

    For balance's sake, should point out that Lamela came on and did an impersonation of Townsend.

    Most disappointing was that the opportunity to play some of our development group, or at least have them on the bench was wasted.
     
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  3. guate

    guate Well-Known Member

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    I'm not one to criticize the players but tonight was an absolute disgrace, no passion, no will to win, no creativity, nothing close to what our club once stood for,
    Only Walker and Vorm came out of this game with any credit, the rest, including Mauricio, deserve a zero rating for their performance.
     
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  4. Amo

    Amo Well-Known Member

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    MOTM Lloris.
     
  5. Mr Pink

    Mr Pink SC Supporter

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    Totally agree.

    I still can't believe the over reaction on here lol.
     
  6. goughie1966

    goughie1966 Well-Known Member

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    Please stop blaming the bloody pitch. These are highly paid professional footballers that should be able to pass a ball on a shitty pitch.

    You know Bill Nicholson played for Spurs in their league title winning team in 1951. We were famous for our push and run football and he continued it with the double winning side when he was manager. Do you know how bad the pitches were in the 50's and 60's? They played with heavy balls and hob nailed boots (ok that's an exaggeration) but you know what I mean. But they could still play good, fast passing football.

    You can go back and find plenty of teams that could play great, fast flowing entertaining football in all conditions.

    Do you think this lot would not have been able to play on that pitch tonight?

     
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  7. iluvsteffenfreund

    iluvsteffenfreund Well-Known Member

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    When do we address the fact that we haven't scored in the last 3 ? What happens if we don't score against Swansea ? Do we blame it on fatigue and thurs night ? We are 1 loss away from a crisis. Lose Sunday and poch will be in alsorts of bother. And so the cycle continues
     
  8. Mr Pink

    Mr Pink SC Supporter

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    I'm not blaming just the pitch - I mentioned it as a factor.

    Anyway we controlled the game until Kaboul had that lapse, so I don't know what all this crying is about. It wasn't that bad a performance in all honesty.
     
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  9. THFCSPURS19

    THFCSPURS19 Well-Known Member

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    What did you think about Walker's performance?
     
  10. HotspurFC1950

    HotspurFC1950 Well-Known Member

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    Except we were playing away.

    We lost away to Dukla in 1961 letting in four goals to boot.
     
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  11. Mr Pink

    Mr Pink SC Supporter

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    lol.

    No excuses for fatigue on Sunday mate, he rested enough of them tonight.

    Don't forget one of those games was Chelsea away, and the Palace game was our fourth in nine days - counting Partizan.

    People are being way too dramatic.
     
  12. jezz

    jezz Well-Known Member

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    Over reaction central.
    Lose Sunday and I'm sure you will be vocal.
    Win and you will vanish
     
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  13. iluvsteffenfreund

    iluvsteffenfreund Well-Known Member

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    Come on ! If we were playing teams off the park and we were just unlucky then I would agree. But there's a poor mentality throughout our club. It's too easy to get beat and fold. We are notorious for having a soft centre and that's just what we have. And we don't have enough quality to hide that soft centre anymore. Poor poor performances have contribute to the boos and the drama ?!!!
     
  14. Borks

    Borks Well-Known Member

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    If a professional golfer has to putt on a bobbly green, do you expect them to be as accurate as usual? No, of course not. For me, both sides play on the same pitch so I don't really buy it as an excuse but bad pitches do often slow games down and reduce the accuracy of passing.

    Maybe we should introduce an oval ball just to really make things interesting.
     
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  15. iluvsteffenfreund

    iluvsteffenfreund Well-Known Member

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    How did you think lamela did when he came on mate ?
     
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  16. Mr Pink

    Mr Pink SC Supporter

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    But those problems are not down to any one manager. Lets just give him time mate, its the only way to rid the long term issues.
     
  17. Bus-Conductor

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    He didn't trip over the ball every time he got into their half or try a lobbed 50 yard back pass. Good game.
     
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  18. ClintEastwould

    ClintEastwould Well-Known Member

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    OT but there is a full match video of that game on YT as well and all I could say was damn, Charlton was some player
     
  19. theShiznit

    theShiznit Well-Known Member

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    The difference being back then shit pitches were the norm, now top players will be (un)lucky if they play on a shit pitch twice a season, their training grounds are like bowling greens too so it's understandable that play becomes slow/disjointed (more so than you'd expect even with Dembele, Paulinho and Stambouli as your cm 3)
     
  20. ClintEastwould

    ClintEastwould Well-Known Member

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    He's probably one of our best players at the moment.
     
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