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MOTM

  • Lloris

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Toby

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sanchez

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Verts

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Trippier

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Davies

    Votes: 131 38.8%
  • Dier

    Votes: 10 3.0%
  • Winks

    Votes: 5 1.5%
  • Eriksen

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Dele

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kane

    Votes: 174 51.5%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 8 2.4%
  • Walker Peters

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Son

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 6 1.8%

  • Total voters
    338

swarvsta

Well-Known Member
Jul 25, 2008
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BC was writing Kane off at the same age, just check the early pages of the Kane thread. Luckily we don't rely on his opinions to make decisions on a young player's future. Ali is so young, but miles ahead of where he should be at such a young age.
 

BringBack_leGin

Well-Known Member
Jul 28, 2004
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Too many other days though.

It's not over the top. Is it really asking too much for a footballer of Alli's ability to make some simple decisions better, do some simple things better. And it's not all about his tender age. He does some things that are incredibly impressive for his age, but he does others that I'd be disappointed if I saw 16yo academy kids doing. We are not a mid/low table team, we are championship challenging team, would Mourinho, Guardiola, Conte tolerate continual carelessness, even if a player did good things too? Any player playing regularly at our level is going to good things, all our players do, they shouldn't be anywhere near this team if they don't, but the difference between us and the championship winners and Alli and the very best players, is what he is doing the rest of the time.

It's not just about form, form might account for the fact that he's not scoring or creating much end product, that's yet another issue, I am talking about the continual carelessness and poor decisions he makes almost every single game. As I said, I would love Alli to progress as a player, but I do not believe that constantly rewarding it with selection is actually counter productive and I do not believe the very best coaches would treat a player like Alli as un droppable.



People aren't overacting, his achievements were actually bettered by Son last season, it really isn't outrageous, or overlooking the positives Alli brings to suggest Son starts a couple of games, gets the chance he deserves, whilst Alli learns that he has to improve the weaker parts of his game. Because what we all want is the best for Spurs, not just what's best for Alli.

In terms of football development Alli is much older than Winks. Alli has 100 senior league starts on his clock, Winks about a five, and that is entirely because he was at MK Dons and not Spurs, not in spite of.

I think your views on those who dare to point out dele's flaws are both exaggerated and is what is over top. No one is trying to detract from what we know he can do, neither do they want him benched without reason, neither do they want to clip his intuitive play.

At 21 he is a grown assed man! I don't believe you should be using his age as any mitigation. There are other premiership players who are even younger but just as high profile as Dele yet there are no questions about their maturity or behaviour as far as I can see. Rashford a case in point. Unfortunately for Dele and all his talent, he is often in the spotlight for the wrong reasons, that's the detraction.

Saying all that, it is good that you are defending him, but so are we, we all love him!. The difference is we are not burying our heads in the sand and only want what's best for him.

Apologies to you both if I neglect key facets of your points, my reply is somewhat assumptive due to time limitations.

Essentially, I do agree he's out of form, I also agree that he's done a fair bit of stupid bollocks and even deserves some time out while Son deservedly gets a run at the position. What I disagree with is the implication from many that he's either no contributing, or is actually hindering us in her net product. I still feel a pro/ con list based on his average performance this season would weigh in his favour.

This doesn't mean that I feel he should be untouchable, I personally would swap in Son for a few matches, but I do feel that he's receiving more damnation than is necessary, probably because we expect more of him than, say, Sissoko or Nkoudou. I also feel that context which is applied to others isn't afforded to him, again because he has set his own high standards.

To reiterate, I do think that there is cause to take him out of the firing line, and that some criticism is warranted, but I do feel that he's received more than he deserves and that a lot of positives are being ignored (not saying by you, just in general).
 

Lighty64

I believe
Aug 24, 2010
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I know who is NOT my man of the match, Dele.

A win but the second half performance has flatten it for me. Play like this against better teams and we will be trounced. Despite scoring 4 and keeping a clean sheet, wasn't convincing to me.

I would have kept on Eriksen to play with Son instead of Dele

Credit to Davies but I will give Kane MOTM again

[EDIT] Based on all you responses to me its obvious that my post above must have been misinterpreted. If we played like we did the 2nd half we would be trounced not the total match. If the match had finished at half time most payers would have deserved a 10

I can understand that we looked like after 24 mins we could create a cricket score, had we been playing a team we felt was dangerous enough, I doubt we would of taken our foot off the gas. we might of even tried to get into 2nd gear.

what needs to be taken into consideration though is we have a very long season, and to go full out in every game could cause early burn-out, and we don't want that. also need to take into consideration that every single player involved in the starting XI also have the chance to be involved in 1 or both of their countries internationals this coming week.
 

JimmyG2

SC Supporter
Dec 7, 2006
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Missed the match, bloody families.
But from this thread I gather that.
Dele....Spent most of the match on his arse and got done for diving
Kane....Quite good but only scored 2. Buck up boy.
Eriksen was still poorly.
Trippier wins the Golden Fedora for the longest headed assist in Prem history
Rose has no chance of recovering his place and we might as well cash in.
and Sissoko scored a blinder.
23 minutes and all over. Poor value for money as we took
early baths and we didn't bother with the second half
but still won 4-0.
Huddersfield plucky but inept. That's just how we like em.

Watched the highlights and no mention of the nailed on penalty against Sanchez
for the push in the back early on.
 
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