Match Ratings Ratings vs Huddersfield

[Bus-Conductor]

Lasr season Walker was your no.1 whipping boy.....this season its Dele

Walker has gone i hope your happy.
Im not, now hes gone hes worth is showing imo....
The same will be with Dele...hes not bang on it i agree....but give the kid a fucking break....he is always involved in all good things we do.
He will only be apprecited by the likes of fans like you when like Walker he is gone.

I'm not missing Walker at all, and nor are we as a team.

And for the record, I criticised facets of Alli's play much of last year too.

Just being involved in occasional good stuff doesn't excuse being involved in lots of bad stuff. Two of Huddersfield's best moments came from slipshod shit from Alli.

I don't believe that any player should be undroppable, i believe in squad rotation and a reasonably meritocratic system. Son also played a part in a goal too and last year was even more productive than Alli, so why does he not deserve to start sometimes, especially when Alli is not only playing badly but also not scoring or assisting much either, which was the mitigation for much of last year.

With his mentality it can only improve him to be left out a couple of games. IMO

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Winks and Dier were good today, complementing each other well. Thought it was the best Dier has looked this season and love Winks speed of play in the center of the park.

Dier looked a lot better today and I think that's down to him being comfortable playing with Winksy.

 

[parj]

Gave the ball the eyes and it went the wrong way lol.
Seriously the I think its pretty safe to say the guy is a confidence player and he simply didn't have any last season. Some players don't let a bad performance affect them or whats written in the media, might not even read it but its looking like Sissoko isnt onebof them. He is getting better with every performance. Hope that continues.

Story of the squad. When given a proper run they improve a lot

 

[Bulletspur]

I believe everyone loves Deli for our team. But if his (or any of our other players) performance is bad or not up to scratch, it should not be exempt from criticism. That does not mean critics are haters or have an agenda against him. I personally want the best for the club and will always want the best team playing by merit, those who are on form, simple. If it means benching my favourite player so be it.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

All so over the top. Amazing instinctive flick in the build up to Davies goal, great play to start the move for Sissoko's goal, great skill and feet when he hit the post, great driving run from defence and then through ball to release Sissoko when he cut in and shot, he even showed good skill and pace before his unfortunate dive.

Another day and Dele finished with a goal and assist and we all love him, instead he's being slated by body language experts and people who think if you're not an Iniesta you're no good.

He's off form for sure, but I'm personally encouraged that even playing poorly he is massively contributing. Sign of a great player that is. That's not to say some bench time in favour of Son starting wouldn't be beneficial, but the flack this 21 year old kid is getting is utter madness considering what he has achieved. For the sake of perspective Harry Winks, who we are patiently awaiting his blooming and fulfilment of his great talent, who had the benefit and comforts of growing up with Spurs training facilities and coaches rather than League 1 equivalents, is two months Dele's senior.

 

[Japhet]

All so over the top. Amazing instinctive flick in the build up to Davies goal, great play to start the move for Sissoko's goal, great skill and feet when he hit the post, great driving run from defence and then through ball to release Sissoko when he cut in and shot, he even showed good skill and pace before his unfortunate dive.

Another day and Dele finished with a goal and assist and we all love him, instead he's being slated by body language experts and people who think if you're not an Iniesta you're no good.

He's off form for sure, but I'm personally encouraged that even playing poorly he is massively contributing. Sign of a great player that is. That's not to say some bench time in favour of Son starting wouldn't be beneficial, but the flack this 21 year old kid is getting is utter madness considering what he has achieved. For the sake of perspective Harry Winks, who we are patiently awaiting his blooming and fulfilment of his great talent, who had the benefit and comforts of growing up with Spurs training facilities and coaches rather than League 1 equivalents, is two months Dele's senior.

2 months older and about 10 years more mature.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

2 months older and about 10 years more mature.

But has achieved immeasurably less.

This isn't about putting down Winks, I love the kid and think he'll be very good, he's exactly where he should be in his development. My point is that Dele is light years ahead of where he has any right to be at this stage in his career, and while he has flaws as a person and as a footballer (both to be expected of a 21 year old), the sheer enormity of his achievements to date far outweighs his drawbacks. Despite this, people are reacting to him as if he was a cross between Joey Barton and Ben Thatcher.

He deserves to be criticised for his mistakes. He doesn't deserve for this to detract from the wonderful things he provides, especially as he provides them even out of form.

 

[Gilzeanking]

Alli can't wait for Lamela to come back... get the haters off his back!

Wow . I loathe this post . The absurd word 'haters' fuelling this idiotic post . Just winding himself up into his very own pool of bile.

There's no haters . There's just people wondering about Dele's contribution , wondering if he needs some rest . But no we have
bottom scraping posts of this quality desperately trying to throw dramatic petrol onto a non existent fire . YUK .

 

[Wellspurs]

Alli can't wait for Lamela to come back... get the DETRACTORS off his back!

Better @Gilzeanking ?

 

[Japhet]

But has achieved immeasurably less.

This isn't about putting down Winks, I love the kid and think he'll be very good, he's exactly where he should be in his development. My point is that Dele is light years ahead of where he has any right to be at this stage in his career, and while he has flaws as a person and as a footballer (both to be expected of a 21 year old), the sheer enormity of his achievements to date far outweighs his drawbacks. Despite this, people are reacting to him as if he was a cross between Joey Barton and Ben Thatcher.

He deserves to be criticised for his mistakes. He doesn't deserve for this to detract from the wonderful things he provides, especially as he provides them even out of form.

He's undoubtedly a very talented footballer but he still needs to learn from his mistakes. He does one stupid thing after another leading to cards, bans and bad publicity. Whilst serving his most recent CL ban he then gives Kyle Walker (allegedly) the finger in front of dozens of TV cameras, and then in his next club game gets carded for a quite pathetic bit of simulation. I can't imagine Winks ever being so petulant or dim. If he could get a grip on this part of his character he'd be pretty much unstoppable.

 

[slartibartfast]

This Dele Alii agenda really has to stop. Its getting ridiculous now from some extinguished members and other sheep jumping on the wagon, how anyone can say he was bumbling mis controlling bambi legged a basic liability some people make him sound like need to check themselves, thank God Pochittinho see's different.

Yes I understand we can't keep excusing the silliness Alli seems to get involved in, though it must be remembered he is still a young kid learning. Unfortunately the media seem to be looking out for another victim (Ashely Cole) and Alli sort of fits the bill isn't helping himself with another booking he received.

Those poor souls will be dearly missed

 

[Donki]

I'm not missing Walker at all, and nor are we as a team.

And for the record, I criticised facets of Alli's play much of last year too.

Just being involved in occasional good stuff doesn't excuse being involved in lots of bad stuff. Two of Huddersfield's best moments came from slipshod shit from Alli.

I don't believe that any player should be undroppable, i believe in squad rotation and a reasonably meritocratic system. Son also played a part in a goal too and last year was even more productive than Alli, so why does he not deserve to start sometimes, especially when Alli is not only playing badly but also not scoring or assisting much either, which was the mitigation for much of last year.

With his mentality it can only improve him to be left out a couple of games. IMO

Can't really disagree with any of that, I very rarely as for a player to be rested or dropped but I honestly think it will give Dele a chance to get his shit together. He looks like a player who is a bit distracted and to be honest Son must be thinking what he needs to do to get a start, after his output last year he deserves a run and when he's splayed this season we look much more free flowing.

 

[Lappi]

The question around dropping Alli is kind of moot until his champions league ban ends and lamela comes back. We have 2 games a week and we don't have enough good fit midfielders not to play him in half of them. And an off form alli is still comfortably better than sissoko.

As to the game, wonderful how easy we can make quite tricky games like this sometimes.

Kane, Winks, Davies and Dier all good

 

[Bus-Conductor]

All so over the top. Amazing instinctive flick in the build up to Davies goal, great play to start the move for Sissoko's goal, great skill and feet when he hit the post, great driving run from defence and then through ball to release Sissoko when he cut in and shot, he even showed good skill and pace before his unfortunate dive.

Another day and Dele finished with a goal and assist and we all love him, instead he's being slated by body language experts and people who think if you're not an Iniesta you're no good.

He's off form for sure, but I'm personally encouraged that even playing poorly he is massively contributing. Sign of a great player that is. That's not to say some bench time in favour of Son starting wouldn't be beneficial, but the flack this 21 year old kid is getting is utter madness considering what he has achieved. For the sake of perspective Harry Winks, who we are patiently awaiting his blooming and fulfilment of his great talent, who had the benefit and comforts of growing up with Spurs training facilities and coaches rather than League 1 equivalents, is two months Dele's senior.

Too many other days though.

It's not over the top. Is it really asking too much for a footballer of Alli's ability to make some simple decisions better, do some simple things better. And it's not all about his tender age. He does some things that are incredibly impressive for his age, but he does others that I'd be disappointed if I saw 16yo academy kids doing. We are not a mid/low table team, we are championship challenging team, would Mourinho, Guardiola, Conte tolerate continual carelessness, even if a player did good things too? Any player playing regularly at our level is going to good things, all our players do, they shouldn't be anywhere near this team if they don't, but the difference between us and the championship winners and Alli and the very best players, is what he is doing the rest of the time.

It's not just about form, form might account for the fact that he's not scoring or creating much end product, that's yet another issue, I am talking about the continual carelessness and poor decisions he makes almost every single game. As I said, I would love Alli to progress as a player, but I do not believe that constantly rewarding it with selection is actually counter productive and I do not believe the very best coaches would treat a player like Alli as un droppable.

But has achieved immeasurably less.

This isn't about putting down Winks, I love the kid and think he'll be very good, he's exactly where he should be in his development. My point is that Dele is light years ahead of where he has any right to be at this stage in his career, and while he has flaws as a person and as a footballer (both to be expected of a 21 year old), the sheer enormity of his achievements to date far outweighs his drawbacks. Despite this, people are reacting to him as if he was a cross between Joey Barton and Ben Thatcher.

He deserves to be criticised for his mistakes. He doesn't deserve for this to detract from the wonderful things he provides, especially as he provides them even out of form.

People aren't overacting, his achievements were actually bettered by Son last season, it really isn't outrageous, or overlooking the positives Alli brings to suggest Son starts a couple of games, gets the chance he deserves, whilst Alli learns that he has to improve the weaker parts of his game. Because what we all want is the best for Spurs, not just what's best for Alli.

In terms of football development Alli is much older than Winks. Alli has 100 senior league starts on his clock, Winks about a five, and that is entirely because he was at MK Dons and not Spurs, not in spite of.

 

[Bulletspur]

But has achieved immeasurably less.

This isn't about putting down Winks, I love the kid and think he'll be very good, he's exactly where he should be in his development. My point is that Dele is light years ahead of where he has any right to be at this stage in his career, and while he has flaws as a person and as a footballer (both to be expected of a 21 year old), the sheer enormity of his achievements to date far outweighs his drawbacks. Despite this, people are reacting to him as if he was a cross between Joey Barton and Ben Thatcher.

He deserves to be criticised for his mistakes. He doesn't deserve for this to detract from the wonderful things he provides, especially as he provides them even out of form.

I think your views on those who dare to point out dele's flaws are both exaggerated and is what is over top. No one is trying to detract from what we know he can do, neither do they want him benched without reason, neither do they want to clip his intuitive play.

At 21 he is a grown assed man! I don't believe you should be using his age as any mitigation. There are other premiership players who are even younger but just as high profile as Dele yet there are no questions about their maturity or behaviour as far as I can see. Rashford a case in point. Unfortunately for Dele and all his talent, he is often in the spotlight for the wrong reasons, that's the detraction.

Saying all that, it is good that you are defending him, but so are we, we all love him!. The difference is we are not burying our heads in the sand and only want what's best for him.

 

[St José Dominguez]

Someone tell me why it is that only now is a spotlight being shone on the things he hasn't yet perfected in his game?

The performance against Huddersfield wasn't all that different to half of the games last season. If that shot that hit the post had gone in I feel like there'd still be people questioning his performance whereas last year it would've be 7 or 8 out of ten and treated as a positive that he's always a threat no matter how he plays.

He always is and has been obsessed with nutmegging players, fans used to love it, now tone is he needs to cut that out. He's still working just as hard, his movement is just the same, his occasional shit first touch causing disruption of an attack is still there. So why is it suddenly he needs to sort his head out or needs a kick up the arse? It's genuinely baffling me how suddenly basically the same performances that were being lauded are now being ripped apart.

Do people think he was some complete all round player or something? I love him but he is and was a million miles away from being a Real Madrid level player despite his goal record. I don't get why suddenly everyone is so focused in on what he ain't great at yet at 21, he was the same last year and not that much was said.

We're not going on about Eriksen bottling a tackle and no one would care if he gets double figure goals cos he's a different type of player. Dele Alli is part of the goal threat aspect of our play, as usual he could easily have scored one even two goals on Saturday yet he didn't play that well rest of the game. That's what we all thought was great about him last season now no one cares cos he lost the ball or tried a trick or miscontrolled a few passes, like he always does.

Oh and now apparently his facial expressions (his facial expressions whilst playing a game of football!) are telling us his head isn't in the game whilst he's running about just as much, trying exactly the same things and playing his style of game exactly the same way he always has.

Someone point me to 5 games he apparently played well in last season when he wasn't on the scoresheet. Feel free to watch them and tell me he didn't make errors in those games just as he is now.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

1 goal
1 assist
1 clean sheet

Ben Davies MoM

Would have been Harry Kane but he only got 2 goals.

Agreed, i mean only one hat trick this week....FFS...

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Someone tell me why it is that only now is a spotlight being shone on the things he hasn't yet perfected in his game?

It's not just now. Many people have pointed it out throughout his time here. It's just getting more attention now because for the first time, it can't be caveated by "and then he scored".

 

[parj]

Agreed, i mean only one hat trick this week....FFS...

I thought this was man on the match, not man of the week....FFS! Someone make the title of the post more clear please.

 

[Riandor]

Thought we were fine Ansbach professional across the board (Dele's dive aside).

MoM - I voted Dier, because i was impressed with his vision and work rate. Got a bit sloppier late on, but thought he was important.

However, true MoM for me were the Huddersfield fans! Kudos.