Match Ratings Ratings vs Zagreb

[ultimateloner]

Sorry guys but I have to get this off my chest. Some of the comments on the match thread really suck; there's an arrogance that just because we have better/more famous players we should have pissed all over this team and gone through.

Football is not like that. Having better players is a great advantage but alot of other things matter: fitness, attitude, pitch condition to name just a few. And i suspect it is for these reasons that we lost.

Across the 90 mins we lacked urgency (passes were slow), lacked intensity (we didn't press well and didn't show the determination to win or get to enough second balls,) and didn't create enough (no one was trying to make things happen except for GLC, not enough good forward runs). Add to this that their team matched us technically and were highly clinical (I dont think they had that many opportunities) you get a surprise defeat.

Individuals:
Tanguy: he is my scape-goat for tonight. He's been bad a few games now but tonight was a new low. He cost us the third goal, losing the ball in the middle of the pitch after failing to turn away from the opposition's press, leading to a direct turnover. Our defending players could have done better but the responsibility lies on him, because those are mistakes that more often than not will cost you goals at this level. I hope he learns from this; but I'm not optimistic as he's made similar misktakes regularly without getting punished. Aside from the mistake I also felt that he hasn't controlled the game; I can't remember a good transition from back to front.

Lo Celso 7: my MOTM. Took responsibility to create after he came on, under terrible conditions. Didn't let it affect him.

Sissoko 2: was terrible tonight. He has no ability to control the ball, and the bad pitch didn't help. He was a liability tonight.

Jose 2: the team doesn't look prepared. We lacked energy/intensity except for the final minutes when we were running on pure adrelinin. I suspect this is something to do with the player's attitude (maybe arrogance) because we didn't look sharp from the get-go. There are good and bad losses but one due to arrogance is not acceptable. Needs to sort it out.

 

[HodisGawd]

I've been watching The Terror and that was MUCH more joyous and full of hope that that performance.

 

[Dannyspur]

The whole team believe the hype that we are top 4 standard, when in fact we are a bang average mid table side that have ridden the crest of Harry Kane's wave. As he has got knackered and gone off form, we don't look capable of any decent football. The rest haven't put in a decent shift for months.

 

[sparx100]

10 - Dier, Sanchez, Winks
The rest get a zero from me.
Motm Dier. Fantastic.

 

[Matthew]

Lloris 4 - think he was flat footed on the 3rd, but made a great block to stop it being EVEN more embarrassing

Aurier 3 - 1 step forward 6 back for serge all the time

Sanchez 4 - our best defender (doesn’t day

Dier 0 - should never play forus again!

Davies 3 too slow, what does he do?

Sissoko 0 - see dier

Winks 0 - see dier

Dele 2 - how many chances does he want? Maybe he should give up and just do online streams

Lucas 5 - best of our shambolic team

Lamela 3 - meh

Kane 4 - unlucky with the header - probably should have scored

Bale 2 - non existent

Ndombele 2 - can’t remember him doing anything

Vinícius 2 - couldn’t do anything right!

Reguilón 4 - did ok

Bergwijn 2 - he came on? Genuinely can’t remember him touching the ball

 

[Nerine]

This was basically a chilli sauce enema.

 

[walton]

As much as Mourinho is failing, the players need look a themselves and some of them can do one. Even if you don't rate the boss, you play for your own integrity. Twats.

 

[pook]

This was basically a chilli sauce enema.

Seriously?

I didn't enjoy the game at all.

 

[Nerine]

Seriously?

I didn't enjoy the game at all.

Maybe chilli sauce was a bit tame.

That was basically a pineapple enema.

 

[Bulletspur]

Sorry guys but I have to get this off my chest. Some of the comments on the match thread really suck; there's an arrogance that just because we have better/more famous players we should have pissed all over this team and gone through.

Football is not like that. Having better players is a great advantage but alot of other things matter: fitness, attitude, pitch condition to name just a few. And i suspect it is for these reasons that we lost.

Across the 90 mins we lacked urgency (passes were slow), lacked intensity (we didn't press well and didn't show the determination to win or get to enough second balls,) and didn't create enough (no one was trying to make things happen except for GLC, not enough good forward runs). Add to this that their team matched us technically and were highly clinical (I dont think they had that many opportunities) you get a surprise defeat.

Individuals:
Tanguy: he is my scape-goat for tonight. He's been bad a few games now but tonight was a new low. He cost us the third goal, losing the ball in the middle of the pitch after failing to turn away from the opposition's press, leading to a direct turnover. Our defending players could have done better but the responsibility lies on him, because those are mistakes that more often than not will cost you goals at this level. I hope he learns from this; but I'm not optimistic as he's made similar misktakes regularly without getting punished. Aside from the mistake I also felt that he hasn't controlled the game; I can't remember a good transition from back to front.

Lo Celso 7: my MOTM. Took responsibility to create after he came on, under terrible conditions. Didn't let it affect him.

Sissoko 2: was terrible tonight. He has no ability to control the ball, and the bad pitch didn't help. He was a liability tonight.

Jose 2: the team doesn't look prepared. We lacked energy/intensity except for the final minutes when we were running on pure adrelinin. I suspect this is something to do with the player's attitude (maybe arrogance) because we didn't look sharp from the get-go. There are good and bad losses but one due to arrogance is not acceptable. Needs to sort it out.

You are repeating what most of us are saying about players' application, fitness and attitude so does this make your post suck as well?

 

[Neon_Knight_]

 

[double0]

I now feel Mourinho has lost the dressing room... but that's not hard, with the back bone of players we have pinching a living at this club. The same attitude we all saw during the latter stages of Pochittinho. The players believing they are better than what they're thrown their toys out the window and downed tools.

I honestly don't know where we go from here, what a disasterous showing that was. I ask myself this question time and time again and alway come to the conclusion we need a massive clear out and probably another change of manager hell knows.
I just see a billion pound stadium with a total lack of investment in the squad and tbh I can't see Levy spending the money needed unless we sell the crown jewels. We all might need to come to terms of this being done to inject new blood and shift the direction of the club because we are soo stale.

I actually felt sorry for Sanchez what a defence we have. Mourinho gets paid handsomely to be negative and hope the opposession are worse than him but unfortunately this squad has proved its not good enough.

 

[nuttynoah]

Lloris 2 - taking into account the back 4, still letting in too many goals, his distribution usually a 50/50 ball.
Aurier 0 - RAUS RAUS 1st clown of the apocolypse. loses focus too often, not a grafter, crosses seldom find a teammate
Sanchez 4 - considering the clowns to the left and right.
Dier 0 - RAUS RAUS 2nd clown of the apocolypse. Another pointer, always blaming others. Needless fouls.
Davies 3 - just another Davies game, don't expect too much and he'll deliver, nothing terrible nothing amazing.
Sissoko 0 - RAUS RAUS 3rd clown of the apocolypse. zero is generous. never injured, ever wondered why? never puts in a decent aerial challenge, the ultimate pointer, awful technique, clearly instructed to play a safe pass to the nearest teammate. A disgrace.
Winks 1 - RAUS RAUS 4th clown of the apocolypse. not too awful, usual negative uninspiring self, and out run in midfield.
Dele 1 - started brightly, needless flicks, faded, much like his footballing career to date
Lucas 2 - i don't rate him usually, see him as an impact sub if anything, but recently one of the few bright sparks, takes the game to them, brave in a challenge, tenacious, lots of effort and positive, but often leads to nothing.
Lamela 3 - it's written on the tin
Kane 4 - starved of service, though had at least 2 half-chances, fatigue arriving i think

Bale 3 - couldn't get into the game enough, showed some nice touches, needs to work on his free kicks
Ndombele 3 - needed more of a response after sunday
Vinícius 4 - a little clumsy, but some good play
Reguilón 4 - tried hard
Bergwijn 2 - tried too hard
Lo Celso 4 - wanted the ball, a little slow after long injury

Mourinho 1 - i really feel the players are knackered. Only a league cup win AND top 4 can save him.

 

[Woodham Wanderer]

Gave it to Lloris for his post match interview. Can’t be arsed to waste my time scoring the rest

 

[Shadydan]

As much as Mourinho is failing, the players need look a themselves and some of them can do one. Even if you don't rate the boss, you play for your own integrity. Twats.

You play for the badge

 

[fatpiranha]

I've been watching The Terror and that was MUCH more joyous and full of hope that that performance.

You may have hit upon the perfect solution for motivating the team. Simply after every loss feed the worst performer to the Tuunbaq. We may still lose but it won't be for lack of effort.

 

[AnotherSpursFan]

When you play Harry Kane in every single fucking game, you know you are repeating the same mistakes, just dumb, totally dumb. Hes a man, not a robot, he needs rest and recovery, trust some of your other options for fucks sake

 

[whitesocks]

Gave it to Lloris for his post match interview. Can’t be arsed to waste my time scoring the rest

He says it was a disgrace.
That the team at the moment is just a reflection of what is going on at the club!!
Lack of the basics. Mentally is weak. Not competitive. Weren't ready for the game!
That we did not respect the opponent!
Lack of ambition - shows in training too, Players not being being part of the team when not in the side. No togetherness in the team. No trust.
That we lack desire.

He wouldn't be drawn on what he meant by 'what was going on at the club'.

Strong stuff - far harsher than what fans are writing here.

And although he (and mourinho) are always quick to include themselves in the public criticism of the team, I think the interviewer should have taken it at face value and asked why he played disgracefully then! Why his mentality is weak. Why he lacks desire.
We all know they don't include themselves - it's those pesky others. This is not leadership.

Lloris inadvertently tells the truth of the situation - the plan, which he seems to agree with, was just to score a goal, and so set them a target of 4 goals. It is not a bad plan.
The problem is if Kane is off form/not fit, there are no other reliable scorers in the side, perhaps with the exception of Son. It was our nil that was our downfall. I wish Lloris had just said this.

 

[DenverSpur]

Absolutely disgraceful display. We have a two goal lead against a team who lost their manager on Monday so the plan has to be get the first goal and they will need 4. Yet despite having 2/3rds of the possession and 3 times more passes than them in the first half we only manage one weak shot on target. There was a total lack of desire or urgency. Our passing and build up play is so slow. Drives me nuts that it takes 2-3 passes to move the ball out wide by which time whatever space was out there is gone so the ball is passed back into the Centre.

Second half DZ woke up and we were not at the races. Three great goals and best team won.

We can blame the manager, as many will, but this, like the NLD, is firmly down to the players. They seem to have no heart, no desire to win games let alone trophies. I don’t care what the managers tactics , instructions etc are when they cross the white line I expect effort, desire, intensity and self pride - you know the desire to show people your best qualities. As someone else said I want to see them playing for the shirt. I’m not seeing that and truth be told haven’t seen it for a long time; well before JM arrived.
Thought Sanchez had decent game and Lo Celso tried hard when he came on. Many of the starters were woeful and didn’t show any reason to believe they have a future at Tottenham. A big clear out is needed. JM is right about one thing there are things wrong at Tottenham that can’t be solved by just coaching. The club simply doesn’t have a winning mentality.

 

[BigVic]

Lloris 2 - taking into account the back 4, still letting in too many goals, his distribution usually a 50/50 ball.
Aurier 0 - RAUS RAUS 1st clown of the apocolypse. loses focus too often, not a grafter, crosses seldom find a teammate
Sanchez 4 - considering the clowns to the left and right.
Dier 0 - RAUS RAUS 2nd clown of the apocolypse. Another pointer, always blaming others. Needless fouls.
Davies 3 - just another Davies game, don't expect too much and he'll deliver, nothing terrible nothing amazing.
Sissoko 0 - RAUS RAUS 3rd clown of the apocolypse. zero is generous. never injured, ever wondered why? never puts in a decent aerial challenge, the ultimate pointer, awful technique, clearly instructed to play a safe pass to the nearest teammate. A disgrace.
Winks 1 - RAUS RAUS 4th clown of the apocolypse. not too awful, usual negative uninspiring self, and out run in midfield.
Dele 1 - started brightly, needless flicks, faded, much like his footballing career to date
Lucas 2 - i don't rate him usually, see him as an impact sub if anything, but recently one of the few bright sparks, takes the game to them, brave in a challenge, tenacious, lots of effort and positive, but often leads to nothing.
Lamela 3 - it's written on the tin
Kane 4 - starved of service, though had at least 2 half-chances, fatigue arriving i think

Bale 3 - couldn't get into the game enough, showed some nice touches, needs to work on his free kicks
Ndombele 3 - needed more of a response after sunday
Vinícius 4 - a little clumsy, but some good play
Reguilón 4 - tried hard
Bergwijn 2 - tried too hard
Lo Celso 4 - wanted the ball, a little slow after long injury

Mourinho 1 - i really feel the players are knackered. Only a league cup win AND top 4 can save him.

How has Sanchez got a 4? He was absolutely atrocious aswell.