Referee scrutiny

[Amo]

looks like the NBA to me - the big clubs/big players get the benefit of the doubt. The Laporte thing doesnt bother me because he doesnt make that second foul if he's on a yellow.

True but the strategy was to take it in turns committing strategic fouls. Getting one permutation of that fucked from the start would have hobbled their defensive line and therefore tilted the dynamic of their attacking plan too.

 

[Oscar22]

Another week, another one... how on Earth, does the VAR Official not have Fleck sent off for looking down at Gio to see where his head is, then deliberately treading on him ??‍?

 

[sausage]

 

[EaMidSpurs]

Fleck should get a retrospective 3 game ban (at least) obvious violent conduct.
The standard of reffing & use of VAR in the Premier league is shocking.

 

[Marty]

Spooked into not giving anything, by the sounds of that.

The biggest issue I have with referees is that it looks like none of them have ever played football or at least tried to think like a footballer.

Refereeing recruitment should start early and be ramped up to target those kids who get released by clubs at 16 or 18. Want to step on a PL pitch? Why not become a ref? The marketing literally writes itself.

 

[sausage]

Fleck should get a retrospective 3 game ban (at least) obvious violent conduct.
The standard of reffing & use of VAR in the Premier league is shocking.

Can they? I thought the old rule was if the ref didn't see it

 

[Saoirse]

Referee scrutiny is the last thing we need.

We've got a ridiculous culture where the mistakes of the refs are analysed and held more accountable than those of the players. They're criticised constantly and expected to somehow get everything right. They get zero respect and aren't even afforded any dignity.

It all feeds into a culture where at every level below the Premier League they're paid peanuts or nothing at all to put up with dog's abuse.

And then we wonder why we end up with a complete shortage of grassroots refs, a total lack of talent ready to step up to the top level, and the abomination which is this interpretation of VAR coming in with the attitude that the right decision is more important than the joy of the game.

 

[mr ashley]

Referee scrutiny is the last thing we need.

We've got a ridiculous culture where the mistakes of the refs are analysed and held more accountable than those of the players. They're criticised constantly and expected to somehow get everything right. They get zero respect and aren't even afforded any dignity.

It all feeds into a culture where at every level below the Premier League they're paid peanuts or nothing at all to put up with dog's abuse.

And then we wonder why we end up with a complete shortage of grassroots refs, a total lack of talent ready to step up to the top level, and the abomination which is this interpretation of VAR coming in with the attitude that the right decision is more important than the joy of the game.

That’s all well and good but after this seasons application of var and interpretation of the laws I don’t think the refs have anyone to blame but themselves.
They could have easily taken a different approach which would have allowed them to simultaneously correct major errors and at the same time highlight the difficulty in getting the close calls right (lets call it umpires call for want of a bette phrase).

It would have lead to many situations where pundits and fans alike would be saying “oh that’s a tough call, can see why they got that wrong. Glad we’ve got var to sort it out”.

Their approach has made them look even more out of touch than ever before. Whether it’s IFAB, PGMOL or whoever it’s just highlighted their own cluelessness. As a result they’ve let down their own colleagues in lower divisions by removing all trust in the officials to understand the game

 

[whitesocks]

Referee scrutiny is the last thing we need.

We've got a ridiculous culture where the mistakes of the refs are analysed and held more accountable than those of the players. They're criticised constantly and expected to somehow get everything right. They get zero respect and aren't even afforded any dignity.

It all feeds into a culture where at every level below the Premier League they're paid peanuts or nothing at all to put up with dog's abuse.

And then we wonder why we end up with a complete shortage of grassroots refs, a total lack of talent ready to step up to the top level, and the abomination which is this interpretation of VAR coming in with the attitude that the right decision is more important than the joy of the game.

There is no joy in a player's head being stomped on.
Player safety should be a ref's/var ref's top priority.

 

[Saoirse]

There is no joy in a player's head being stomped on.
Player safety should be a ref's/var ref's top priority.

The buck doesn't stop with the ref as an individual. If we hadn't had literally decades now of it somehow being acceptable to hold some bloke on a £30k salary "accountable" on BBC1 and the backpages, we'd very likely have a better selection of refs now, and in turn players not thinking they could get away with this stuff.

 

[TheBlueRooster]

All refereeing decisions should be made by the on field referee not the VAR Referee. He must look at the monitor and make the decision himself not take the advice from VAR and that includes offside. A lot of the decisions this weekend were laughable if not unbelievable.

 

[wirE]

I've said a few times already, but the FA should be looking into how the Rugby league plays. This swarming of the referee is just awful and should be banned immediately! The ref should make the teams captain approach them and any attempts of going off at the ref, should be a bookable offense. Each team should have one chance of overturning the referees decision for each halves. The referee is the one looking at the monitor rather than being given advice from the VAR room, if there's a situation which is unclear.

Nowadays the referee waits until the VAR room has given their advice rather than blowing the whistle. Players don't celebrate anymore because they know there could be a situation being looked at in the VAR room. It kills the game entirely.

 

[dontcallme]

Another week, another one... how on Earth, does the VAR Official not have Fleck sent off for looking down at Gio to see where his head is, then deliberately treading on him ??‍?

It's ridiculous.

It's amazing how before VAR there were the arguments that refs can't seen everything. But now they get to review situations on videos and they are still making ridiculous decisions.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

It's ridiculous.

It's amazing how before VAR there were the arguments that refs can't seen everything. But now they get to review situations on videos and they are still making ridiculous decisions.

Wasn't sure where to post this, or even if it's true.

Sad thing is, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[tiger666]

Wasn't sure where to post this, or even if it's true.

Sad thing is, I wouldn't be surprised.


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It isn't true. The first bit he said, everything after and including "It doesn't stop there" is made up.

 

[Tucker]

It isn't true. The first bit he said, everything after and including "It doesn't stop there" is made up.

Halsey may not have said it, but the refereeing in this country does smell fishy to me. They can’t be this bad.

 

[cwy21]

Halsey may not have said it, but the refereeing in this country does smell fishy to me. They can’t be this bad.

Every fan thinks every ref in their league sucks. So maybe it's the fans?

 

[Tucker]

Every fan thinks every ref in their league sucks. So maybe it's the fans?

Or maybe all the refs are shite or on the take.

 

[cwy21]

Or maybe all the refs are shite or on the take.

Or maybe fans have absurd expectations of perfection for the guy making 80k a year.

 

[Marty]

My problem with refs isn't so much the refs themselves, it's IFAB and their predecessors making a simple game far too complicated to officiate.

I want more rigid rules and fewer grey areas open to interpretation. Offside is the best example of a simple rule riddled with complicated variants. Get rid of them and the standard of officials would undoubtedly get better. Fans would get used to it.