Robbie Savage = Cock
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DogsOfWar
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I very much doubt Bale would go anywhere in the next season and a half.
Firstly, he has to prove himself over a couple of seasons so I doubt any side is actually going to put in the £50 million+ bid it would take to buy him.
And secondly, he will want to see how far Spurs can go. If we don't make CL this year he's still young enough to give it another year if we want to resist any bids.
If we shit out two years on the trot then, fair enough, he has the right to better himself and we'll still get the £50 million+ for him.
Firstly, he has to prove himself over a couple of seasons so I doubt any side is actually going to put in the £50 million+ bid it would take to buy him.
And secondly, he will want to see how far Spurs can go. If we don't make CL this year he's still young enough to give it another year if we want to resist any bids.
If we shit out two years on the trot then, fair enough, he has the right to better himself and we'll still get the £50 million+ for him.
rez9000
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This is my take on the Bale situation. As far as I'm concerned, Savage is a cock as the thread title suggests and there's little more to say about him than that.
With regard to protecting our prize assets, I actually think that keeping Bale, VDV and Modric won't be as problematic as some people within and without the Spurs fanbase may believe.
The one thing to bear in mind is the new UEFA financial rules due to come into play soon.
Man U are mired in debt, as are Chelsea and Barca (I believe). Man City are going to have to trim their wage budget regardless of whether they win anything. There just isn't enough prize, TV and merchandise money to sustain that kind of expenditure. I don't know what Real's situation is, but it's a safe bet to say their wage bill is on the astronmical side as well.
So, looking at it rationally, we've got the Scum and the big Italian sides.
Will we sell to the Scum - never. The only way Bale will go there is on a free. Will we sell to the Italians? - not this season, and probably not next season either as we won't need to, due to our player's long contracts.
By the time Bale's (or anyone else's) contract runs into its final year, I believe that the established sides will be struggling to rebuild after having to decimate their squads to cut their expenditure. Furthermore, every purchase will have to be made from a firm and sustainable position.
Buying Bale will cost a club, even in the penultimate year of his contract, an absolute bomb. It would be difficult to raise the necessary capital and remain within the rules.
We on the other hand, are in a fantastic financial situation, which relative to other clubs, has only been slightly affected. We can and, I believe be able to continue to afford to pay players and we can probably afford to increase the squad if necessary. When the offers from the likes of Man U and Chelsea dry up, who will be left in the Premiership? Liverpool (if their new owners shell out), the Scum, and us.
Also, overall, player wages will drop anyway as clubs can no longer be able to pay out obscene wages to bring players in. Wages at the top of the scale will come closer to our maximum (maybe not below, but closer to) - this in turn raises our attractiveness to players.
I believe the next 18 months are the key. Hold onto Bale, Modric and VDV that long and I think the threat of the big sides will evaporate along with their expenditure.
With regard to protecting our prize assets, I actually think that keeping Bale, VDV and Modric won't be as problematic as some people within and without the Spurs fanbase may believe.
The one thing to bear in mind is the new UEFA financial rules due to come into play soon.
Man U are mired in debt, as are Chelsea and Barca (I believe). Man City are going to have to trim their wage budget regardless of whether they win anything. There just isn't enough prize, TV and merchandise money to sustain that kind of expenditure. I don't know what Real's situation is, but it's a safe bet to say their wage bill is on the astronmical side as well.
So, looking at it rationally, we've got the Scum and the big Italian sides.
Will we sell to the Scum - never. The only way Bale will go there is on a free. Will we sell to the Italians? - not this season, and probably not next season either as we won't need to, due to our player's long contracts.
By the time Bale's (or anyone else's) contract runs into its final year, I believe that the established sides will be struggling to rebuild after having to decimate their squads to cut their expenditure. Furthermore, every purchase will have to be made from a firm and sustainable position.
Buying Bale will cost a club, even in the penultimate year of his contract, an absolute bomb. It would be difficult to raise the necessary capital and remain within the rules.
We on the other hand, are in a fantastic financial situation, which relative to other clubs, has only been slightly affected. We can and, I believe be able to continue to afford to pay players and we can probably afford to increase the squad if necessary. When the offers from the likes of Man U and Chelsea dry up, who will be left in the Premiership? Liverpool (if their new owners shell out), the Scum, and us.
Also, overall, player wages will drop anyway as clubs can no longer be able to pay out obscene wages to bring players in. Wages at the top of the scale will come closer to our maximum (maybe not below, but closer to) - this in turn raises our attractiveness to players.
I believe the next 18 months are the key. Hold onto Bale, Modric and VDV that long and I think the threat of the big sides will evaporate along with their expenditure.
Kendall
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Lad is old school northern... shortnening banter is gay.
StartingPrice
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My Bad, Tuesday.My excuse is that I am about 7 times zones away from London and do get confused!!
No worries:grin:
I think you make the point better than I did:grin:
Until it was obvious that United under Red Nose were gonna dominate English football for years to come (so at least 7 years into his reign), our record was certainly comparable to theirs. Fewer league successes, but not embarrassingly so; more cup successes; no European cup but more European trophies.
So, they have had a period of domination - whoppee for them. I hardlythink that justifies everyone in the footballing World fawning to them and making like no-one can catch them up, or even go past them for while (unless that team has a mega-rich Sugar-Daddy like Chelsea or Citeh).
Jeez, imagine if Ali had started quaking before fighting Sonny Liston and said: "Fool, this Mofo dominates Heavy-Weight boxing - I ain't fightin' him, sucker"Eek
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Preach on SP. I'm with you bruvva!
/raises fist in solidarity
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It's nice of UEFA to introduce these financial restrictions (although I won't hold my breath on anything being done to transgressors when they do come into effect, forgive my cynicism) but it's a situation they largely brought on themselves. They created their own problem. Much like the massive TV deal the PL has contributed to some clubs not living within their means and over-stretching themselves in order to just tread water.
Basically, get rid of the effing CL and let's get back to proper football with more than just 2 or 3 clubs in 3 countries ever having a chance to actually build a side capable of competing for trophies for any length of time.
If it wasn't for my irrational love of a club founded by cricket-loving grammar school boys well over a century ago, I'd have turned football off the telly yrs ago.
I wish the football money bubble would hurry up and burst.
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/raises fist in solidarity
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It's nice of UEFA to introduce these financial restrictions (although I won't hold my breath on anything being done to transgressors when they do come into effect, forgive my cynicism) but it's a situation they largely brought on themselves. They created their own problem. Much like the massive TV deal the PL has contributed to some clubs not living within their means and over-stretching themselves in order to just tread water.
Basically, get rid of the effing CL and let's get back to proper football with more than just 2 or 3 clubs in 3 countries ever having a chance to actually build a side capable of competing for trophies for any length of time.
If it wasn't for my irrational love of a club founded by cricket-loving grammar school boys well over a century ago, I'd have turned football off the telly yrs ago.
I wish the football money bubble would hurry up and burst.
---------------------------and breathe--------------------------
StartingPrice
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Alasit is true.
I am old enough to remember minnow clubs like Auxerre coming out of nowhere to shake the mightiest clubs in Europe with exciting young teams, based on hard-work and nurturing of talent (cue a killjoy ruining my rose-tinted niavity with info that they were, in fact, the Citeh of the day, and employing Mourinho-esque scorched-earth tactics).
I am old enough to remember minnow clubs like Auxerre coming out of nowhere to shake the mightiest clubs in Europe with exciting young teams, based on hard-work and nurturing of talent (cue a killjoy ruining my rose-tinted niavity with info that they were, in fact, the Citeh of the day, and employing Mourinho-esque scorched-earth tactics
).
AW?
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What the fuck do you northeners know? You're all practically Scottish anyway!
THOWIG
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Spot on.
StartingPrice
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I was quite surprised...
...I always believed the received wisdom was that he was a ****:wink:
In fact, if my memory serves me well, not long after I joined SC there was a thread with the title "Robbie Savage is a ****", and a photo of a nicely trimmed chuff as the OP's only comment (sounds like a Bomber thread to me):grin:
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I did - http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=2032728#post2032728, which does not mean that I don't like him, not at all, but sometimes he needs support form the strikers and the midfielders and he does not often get it, and it is part of how we play - we rarely provide support for the wingers and its easy for the opposition to double even triple team them, and they have been doing this since before Bale started playing regularly for us but it was on the right hand side instead where Lennon plays. It is not that hard to apply that defensive approach from using it on their left to using it on their right.
There was a good example of that today - Hudd passed a long ball to Bentley he collected and advanced forward just to have get closed down by 3 Bolton players with no support in sight and all of our players that could have done that were in the box waiting for the ball.
