Ross Barkley

[Living Legend Colm G]

As did Stan "the man" Collymore....

Didn't get a choice. His contract offer was rescinded when they took over.

 

[Japhet]

Didn't we swap Gylfi for Vorm? So that the fee was effectively 0. Thus fudging Vorms former club over, seeing as they had a sell on clause for him.

Think Vorm and Davies were part of the deal. Trying to sort out sell on clauses probably explains partly why 'swaps' hardly ever happen.

 

[yanno]

Didn't we swap Gylfi for Vorm? So that the fee was effectively 0. Thus fudging Vorms former club over, seeing as they had a sell on clause for him.

And there precisely is the issue with sell on clauses.

If Swansea sell Siggy, they'll want the money due to Spurs to be as little as possible.

So, without seeing the actual language of the sell on clause and knowing what price (transfer fee) was agreed in the final contract under which we sold Siggy, we can but speculate on how much we're ikely to get from any sale to Everton.

The Times' article suggests we negotiated a "nominal fee" from Swansea for Siggy and that the deal included both Davies and Vorm. If that's correct, the money we get from the sell-on clause could be significant.

We shall see.

 

[spursfan77]

Regarding his footballing intelligence (or lack of, which is my worry), the first few posts were made in August 2015. Have a look at those. The same questions are being asked about him 2 years later. Worrying that he hasn't learnt in that time.


https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ross-barkley.77981/page-8

I want us to sign him btw. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery.

 

[Ben1]

Regarding his footballing intelligence (or lack of, which is my worry), the first few posts were made in August 2015. Have a look at those. The same questions are being asked about him 2 years later. Worrying that he hasn't learnt in that time.


https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ross-barkley.77981/page-8

I want us to sign him btw. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery.

Same as in Berardi thread, the boy needs a change...plus he's spent a lot of time being managed by Roberto Martinez, the biggest myth in football management.

 

[spursfan77]

Same as in Berardi thread, the boy needs a change...plus he's spent a lot of time being managed by Roberto Martinez, the biggest myth in football management.

I do agree he's had bad managers (I'm still not convinced by Koeman too). Let's see what he can do with a proper one.

 

[mano-obe]

I think a straight swap with Sissoko would be a great deal. I'm just not sure how good Barkley is. You see hints of a great player but just not enough. To have the likes of Lamela and Barkley coming off the bench is a tempting option

 

[Jospur]

I think a straight swap with Sissoko would be a great deal. I'm just not sure how good Barkley is. You see hints of a great player but just not enough. To have the likes of Lamela and Barkley coming off the bench is a tempting option

Problem with that is would Everton want Sissoko? If my memory is correct I believe that Sissoko said some derogatory things about Everton when he chose Spurs over Everton last summer.

 

[Supersi32]

Didn't get a choice. His contract offer was rescinded when they took over.

Due to and in his own words "legitimate criticism" of the new owners...

 

[worcestersauce]

And there precisely is the issue with sell on clauses.

If Swansea sell Siggy, they'll want the money due to Spurs to be as little as possible.

So, without seeing the actual language of the sell on clause and knowing what price (transfer fee) was agreed in the final contract under which we sold Siggy, we can but speculate on how much we're ikely to get from any sale to Everton.

The Times' article suggests we negotiated a "nominal fee" from Swansea for Siggy and that the deal included both Davies and Vorm. If that's correct, the money we get from the sell-on clause could be significant.

We shall see.

Surely what we sold Siggy to Swansea for is irrelevant as any sell on clause is based on a percentage of what they sell him for.

 

[Lilbaz]

Surely what we sold Siggy to Swansea for is irrelevant as any sell on clause is based on a percentage of what they sell him for.

Depends what the agreement we made with them says. It could be either or something else.

 

[yanno]

Surely what we sold Siggy to Swansea for is irrelevant as any sell on clause is based on a percentage of what they sell him for.

Over and above the original fee that we sold him for - see my post above the one you quoted.

 

[wishkah]

it's like on tinder when you're not getting any matches you scroll back through your previous ones and think, "she may have three eyes but actually she's the one i'll marry".

the closer we get to deadline day the more I'm in love with ol' three-eye Ross

 

[HildoSpur]

it's like on tinder when you're not getting any matches you scroll back through your previous ones and think, "she may have three eyes but actually she's the one i'll marry".

the closer we get to deadline day the more I'm in love with ol' three-eye Ross

Sorry, you use tinder to find somebody you will marry? Crieky.

 

[The Swellhead Spur]

Boss Rarkley

 

[mano-obe]

Problem with that is would Everton want Sissoko? If my memory is correct I believe that Sissoko said some derogatory things about Everton when he chose Spurs over Everton last summer.

Kyle Walker done the same with City. That's footballers for you!

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I'm very keen on this guy, I think he'd genuinely improve our squad and give Pochettino great options when it comes to systems and in game tactics.

It won't be the end of the world if we don't get him, but we'll have a seriously strong set of AM options if we do.

 

[luRRka]

I thought the usual situation wth sell on clauses was that the percentage was of the transfer fee over and above the sum the player moved for.

So, if we sold Siggy to Swansea for £20 million, the sell on clause would be 10% of the new transfer to Everton over and above that £20 million. If hypothetically he goes to Everton for £45 million, we would be entitled to 10% of £25 million, or £2.5 million in that scenario.

That said, it's clear as mud how much we sold Siggy to Swansea for, and there are even claims it was a swap deal including Ben Davies. The actual fee Swansea paid for Siggy may be as low as £10 million, and we haven't seen the precise language of the contractual sell on clause.

Knowing Levy as we do, I'm sure the Siggy sell on clause is a factor in our financial negotiations with Everton over Barkley.

Surely the contract can say whatever the parties agree to. Daniel levy could say when siggy is sold that the Swansea chairman has to nosh him off and help him plot world domination. If the Swansea chairman is stupid enough to agree to it then that's his problem

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Sorry, you use tinder to find somebody you will marry? Crieky.

Ok, what the fuck has dry, flammable material got to do with marrying someone? Fucks wrong with the world?

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Honestly can't believe people are debating whether they want him or not still,

Who would you rather come off the bench seriously?

Ross Barkley is talented I have seen him boss games, actually one of the best players I have seen live at a game I attended for work in the liberty stadium he actually bossed the show.

He will go up a level with us and to me he's a brilliant mould of what dembele does and what Alli does so excellent option to have