sack him

[Stoof]

I would never suggest that Redknapp be sacked, now. I have never suggested it before, but I am clinging on to what he has "acheived" here before I make any rash judgements, and I certainly won't be making any judgements until May.

All I ever want to read from people splurging their opinion across the internet's chest is well-informed, sensible prose.

It really worries me how short-term people's memories are. And how quickly they'll forget 5 good results in favour of 1 bad half. All I ever want is people to consider the season as a whole. And to be fair.

Maybe that's why Everton fans are always so happy in the Summer. Their team doesn't turn up for the first half of the season and then they have a great run in (pretty much always!) which fans seemingly forget if they have a good April.

I agree, wait until the end of the season, where I expect Harry will go to England - so the whole "sack him now" business will be irrelevant.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

I have only been on Spurs Community for 3 years (I think) and in that time there has been some ridiculous views and threads, but the whole concept of sacking a manager when you are 4th and the next game is a Cup semi final is by far and away the most ridiculous concept since BC told us Alan Hutton was our best right back.

 

[Gbspurs]

Agree with above, no matter what he deserves until the end of the season and he doesn't deserve to be sacked. Since harry joined us, he has masterminded some of our greatest wins. How often did we beat arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool etc before he joined and I will never forget the wins against the Milans. If Harry feels England is the job he wants and leaves us I will remember him as a legend especially given he could win our first FA cup since Venables. Our season isn't over yet, and I was as livid as everyone on Monday. I'm hoping that this result has made them realise they are in trouble and the kick on. It's tight up there and anything is possible but we stand as much chance as others. If we finish 4th and cup final that has to be a successful season. 5th is probably where we "should finish" given last season and money spent but other teams but obviously given our start that would be a failure now.

 

[max cady]

Leave Harry to do the job he's paid to do. Ok he got a few tactical issues wrong, Utd, Citeh, the 2 scum sides have all faltered this season. We & the media seem to highlight our performances because we were playing some great stuff at the early part of the season and looked nailed on for a top 4 place. No one has a god given right to be given a top 4 place you must fight for it along with the others. I would prefer to be were we are today than say Everton, 'Pool or Villa. I still believe we will snatch 4th.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Sack him?! Seriously? He has his limitations as a coach and strategist maybe but when he gets things right, which let's be honest is more often than not considering his record with us. It is pretty easy for us to pick holes in things he has done and after games and yes the last game against Norwich was horrendous and he admits himself that he made a huge mistake but he hasn't made many huge mistakes. We've definitely had a bad run but he has put together a side that is capable of having strings of victories unlike many others in the league. He has given us some absolutely glorious moments while in charge of Tottenham and I think it would be a ridiculous lack of respect to him to even suggest sacking him after a bad run of results.

This is his biggest challenge now, much bigger than the one when he took over. That may determine his England credentials (although I think he'll get the job regardless) but it shouldn't determine his Tottenham credentials.

 

[SNAFU_Clarke]

This is his biggest challenge now, much bigger than the one when he took over.

i don't know about that. if he fails this season from here, he'll be gone and we'll be a laughing stock for finishing 6th. 6th. we'll have a new manager coming in with some money to invest and a very good squad. a squad some people think we should be doing a hell of a lot better with. (that will inevtiably change when they realise the new bloke can't get us to finish any higher than 4th either. or maybe it won't).

if he'd failed when he first came in, we'd have been relegated.

this is definitely the first time in his reign where he has some serious questions to answer regarding the set up of his side. i hope he'll answer his many critics, although i suspect the line has been crossed for the usual suspects and they just want blood now, rather than a successful football club.

 

[RickyVilla]

I vote we chop his bollox off and feed them to the pigeons.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

i don't know about that. if he fails this season from here, he'll be gone and we'll be a laughing stock for finishing 6th. 6th. we'll have a new manager coming in with some money to invest and a very good squad. a squad some people think we should be doing a hell of a lot better with. (that will inevtiably change when they realise the new bloke can't get us to finish any higher than 4th either. or maybe it won't).

if he'd failed when he first came in, we'd have been relegated.

this is definitely the first time in his reign where he has some serious questions to answer regarding the set up of his side. i hope he'll answer his many critics, although i suspect the line has been crossed for the usual suspects and they just want blood now, rather than a successful football club.

The consequences were of course much bigger when he took over but the challenge then was getting a team that hadn't really started the season up the league with 30 games to go. He was an instant confidence boost to the squad with his character and
he brought in players in the transfer window. Now he has 5 games to maintain our position with a team out of confidence and underperforming. He has to find a way to get something out of them without a sudden input of positive energy (since they are used to him anyway) and without any way to improve the side. It's a completely different challenge and I think he never had any chance of failing the challenge when he took over, but this time there is a distinct possibility of failure regardless of the consequences.

 

[SNAFU_Clarke]

The consequences were of course much bigger when he took over but the challenge then was getting a team that hadn't really started the season up the league with 30 games to go. He was an instant confidence boost to the squad with his character and
he brought in players in the transfer window. Now he has 5 games to maintain our position with a team out of confidence and underperforming. He has to find a way to get something out of them without a sudden input of positive energy (since they are used to him anyway) and without any way to improve the side. It's a completely different challenge and I think he never had any chance of failing the challenge when he took over, but this time there is a distinct possibility of failure regardless of the consequences.

that's fair enough actually. i hadn't thought of it that way.

 

[Riandor]

King and Harry should be given a pat on the back and retired from duty.
Both have done great things, Ledley over long periods and Harry in a short space. But both need to be replaced at the end of the season to push on in my opinion.

Just look at the difference at the back when we had Gallas, his return was like a breath of fresh air with total commitment!

I think Harry deserves credit more than anything else and should be remembered fondly, but the slump this season is not acceptable and the defeat in the manner in which it happened against Norwich was almost scandalous.

Where was the fight that we saw against Swansea, the work rate?

But before we all criticise his team selection, we should remember we were all slating for lack of rotation just a week ago and I for one was also relatively happy with the selection on Monday, though I did expect a 433 from the start.

Let us hope we can yet salvage the season!
R.

 

[BPR_U16]

Not sure H has ever been in a position like this before and it's showing his fallability.
There is so much depth to the squad that I honestly don't think he knows his best 11 and what formation to play.
When he plays a 4-3-3 the unfortunate thing is that generally plays a middle 3 of Sandro (or Livermore), Modric and Parker who do not score goals.
This puts more of an onus on VdV, Bale and Ade - so Bale and VdV tend to drift in and make us very narrow, resulting in Ade playing out wide instead. In the last few games, the supply to them has been p**s poor. Not sure Sandro ever gets the ball under control, Parker has no telling pass and Modders is not making the breaks he used to. As result VdV has dropped deeper and deeper, how many times has he dropped right back to pick up the balls off the CB only to then lay it off to him again?

Our strength is in our wide players. Said it many times before but still believe that we need Lennon in the team - he provides pace and width going forward and there were many occassions early season when his breaks led to chances for Bale on the other side.

 

[SNAFU_Clarke]

There is so much depth to the squad

there really isn't though.

we have 2 good keepers. we have one good left back. we have one good right back. we have several crocked/ageing centre backs. we have one good right sided midfielder. we have one excellent left sided midfielder. we have one excellent lone front man. we don't really have cover in a number of positions. see the recent clamour for the return of lennon for details.

 

[ryantegan]

there really isn't though.

we have 2 good keepers. we have one good left back. we have one good right back. we have several crocked/ageing centre backs. we have one good right sided midfielder. we have one excellent left sided midfielder. we have one excellent lone front man. we don't really have cover in a number of positions. see the recent clamour for the return of lennon for details.

That is correct.

Our depth looks good if we change our system to 4-4-2, maybe we should try that.....Oh.....Maybe not!

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

The following was written whilst on the bog. It's a load of crap but i'll post it anyway just so people can take a pop at me .

I'm not one for Knee Jerk reactions, in fact, they piss me right off but i've probably had two or three myself since the Norwich game! Anyway, since then, i've had the raving and I couldn't have cared less if Levy had fired him/he quit or whatever.

But last night, as one does, I was having a ponder whilst curling one out, after going through all the names and possibilities it dawned on me at last (because i'm a bit thick I suppose) that there's only one man who, if he replaced Redknapp, would IMO make the huge difference required. Mourinho. And whilst anything is possible in football, i'd file the chances of us getting him to come to Spurs under the heading 'unlikely'. Yes yes yes.....hardly revalation is it? A&C's very own 'no shit sherlock' moment.

Yes I know we've collapsed spectacularly again and I know Harry has his faults but who put us into one of the most dizzying positions we've known for far too long in the first place? Before you say it, I agree....... that doesn't guarantee him immunity from getting the Spanish Archer from Levy, it doesn't mean we shouldn't be concerned and questions being asked are one thing, calling for his head another. The grass isn't always greener and all that.

I'm sorry if this offends anyone but IMO, calling for him to be sacked now is just dummy spitting, knee jerk and rediculous. (and i've been guilty of it too the past couple of days) It is highly likely that Harry is going in the summer anyway so there's little point because we're not going to get anyone in who will make the difference required until the season is over and even then, we'll see as to how we get along with the next guy in charge. If he does ANY better than Harry it'll mean us becoming something akin to Manchester United overnight. You might laugh but the margins are that small. We're that close. I guess that might explain the levels of frustration.

Before the Scum game 99% of SC would have given Harry a reacharound and offered him either the free use of their botty or a night with their missus.

99% of you have a question to answer........what's the wife doing tonight?

 

[Riandor]

The following was written whilst on the bog. It's a load of crap but i'll post it anyway just so people can take a pop at me .

I'm not one for Knee Jerk reactions, in fact, they piss me right off but i've probably had two or three myself since the Norwich game! Anyway, since then, i've had the raving and I couldn't have cared less if Levy had fired him/he quit or whatever.

But last night, as one does, I was having a ponder whilst curling one out, after going through all the names and possibilities it dawned on me at last (because i'm a bit thick I suppose) that there's only one man who, if he replaced Redknapp, would IMO make the huge difference required. Mourinho. And whilst anything is possible in football, i'd file the chances of us getting him to come to Spurs under the heading 'unlikely'. Yes yes yes.....hardly revalation is it? A&C's very own 'no shit sherlock' moment.

Yes I know we've collapsed spectacularly again and I know Harry has his faults but who put us into one of the most dizzying positions we've known for far too long in the first place? Before you say it, I agree....... that doesn't guarantee him immunity from getting the Spanish Archer from Levy, it doesn't mean we shouldn't be concerned and questions being asked are one thing, calling for his head another. The grass isn't always greener and all that.

I'm sorry if this offends anyone but IMO, calling for him to be sacked now is just dummy spitting, knee jerk and rediculous. (and i've been guilty of it too the past couple of days) It is highly likely that Harry is going in the summer anyway so there's little point because we're not going to get anyone in who will make the difference required until the season is over and even then, we'll see as to how we get along with the next guy in charge. If he does ANY better than Harry it'll mean us becoming something akin to Manchester United overnight. You might laugh but the margins are that small. We're that close. I guess that might explain the levels of frustration.

Before the Scum game 99% of SC would have given Harry a reacharound and offered him either the free use of their botty or a night with their missus.

99% of you have a question to answer........what's the wife doing tonight?

Agree with all of it and have been saying the same thing.

HR until the end of the season, no issues... that#s what he is paid for and I still believe he will guide us to a good finish, it will just likely not be the 3rd we should have had and that is what people are struggling with, the fact that really, we shouldn't have ballsed up our great start like we have.

R.

 

[Mr Pink]

Of course sacking him now is ridiculous, anybody who really wants that needs their head examined.

Judgement should be on ice until May, and then its right to look at the season as a whole.

Either way though, and for me personally, I would like to see Harry depart on nice terms come the summer, be it as the next England manager or if we have to just look to replace him.

I don't see Harry taking us any further than he has, but overall there is no doubt that he's done a very fine job. To be fair though its going to be hard to beat without serious investment but I still think the time will be right to part ways.

Probably a moot point because he'll end up England manager anyway and good luck to him, even though I think he'll be ripped to shreds by his buddies in the media even if they do give him a little more latitude.

 

[Mr Pink]

The following was written whilst on the bog. It's a load of crap but i'll post it anyway just so people can take a pop at me .

I'm not one for Knee Jerk reactions, in fact, they piss me right off but i've probably had two or three myself since the Norwich game! Anyway, since then, i've had the raving and I couldn't have cared less if Levy had fired him/he quit or whatever.

But last night, as one does, I was having a ponder whilst curling one out, after going through all the names and possibilities it dawned on me at last (because i'm a bit thick I suppose) that there's only one man who, if he replaced Redknapp, would IMO make the huge difference required. Mourinho. And whilst anything is possible in football, i'd file the chances of us getting him to come to Spurs under the heading 'unlikely'. Yes yes yes.....hardly revalation is it? A&C's very own 'no shit sherlock' moment.

Yes I know we've collapsed spectacularly again and I know Harry has his faults but who put us into one of the most dizzying positions we've known for far too long in the first place? Before you say it, I agree....... that doesn't guarantee him immunity from getting the Spanish Archer from Levy, it doesn't mean we shouldn't be concerned and questions being asked are one thing, calling for his head another. The grass isn't always greener and all that.

I'm sorry if this offends anyone but IMO, calling for him to be sacked now is just dummy spitting, knee jerk and rediculous. (and i've been guilty of it too the past couple of days) It is highly likely that Harry is going in the summer anyway so there's little point because we're not going to get anyone in who will make the difference required until the season is over and even then, we'll see as to how we get along with the next guy in charge. If he does ANY better than Harry it'll mean us becoming something akin to Manchester United overnight. You might laugh but the margins are that small. We're that close. I guess that might explain the levels of frustration.

Before the Scum game 99% of SC would have given Harry a reacharound and offered him either the free use of their botty or a night with their missus.

99% of you have a question to answer........what's the wife doing tonight?

Its her last night in Solitary, the mood I've been in

 

[kernowspur]

Leave Harry to do the job he's paid to do. Ok he got a few tactical issues wrong, Utd, Citeh, the 2 scum sides have all faltered this season. We & the media seem to highlight our performances because we were playing some great stuff at the early part of the season and looked nailed on for a top 4 place. No one has a god given right to be given a top 4 place you must fight for it along with the others. I would prefer to be were we are today than say Everton, 'Pool or Villa. I still believe we will snatch 4th.

Compare our squad to Villa's Liverpool's or Everton's and you'll see why we are better off than them. We need to compare with Arsenal, who lost their best two players last summer, Chelsea who are getting old fast and Newcastle who bought wisely in January. We have a team as good as all these but for the second season running have collapsed in the run-in. The common factor is Harry, it is where the buck has to stop. The problem is he is not doing the job he is paid to do because he cannot rouse the players when things start to go wrong. Yes he can go to a team in trouble and turn it round, but cannot produce a team that consistently delivers. Just re-read some of his simple baffling comments since January, he sounds as if, and is, totally lost.
He is supposed to have total control of the team so his must be the responsibility.

 

[gilzeantheking]

I think it would be ridiculous to sack him now, but I would like to see him go at the end of the season. I agree that we need serious investment to move us on that little bit extra, we are close to being a title contending team.

But I do think he has taken us as far as he can.

 

[Mr Pink]

The consequences were of course much bigger when he took over but the challenge then was getting a team that hadn't really started the season up the league with 30 games to go. He was an instant confidence boost to the squad with his character and
he brought in players in the transfer window. Now he has 5 games to maintain our position with a team out of confidence and underperforming. He has to find a way to get something out of them without a sudden input of positive energy (since they are used to him anyway) and without any way to improve the side. It's a completely different challenge and I think he never had any chance of failing the challenge when he took over, but this time there is a distinct possibility of failure regardless of the consequences.

That's exactly what the problem is I think, and its why I think Harry's methods have a shelf life. I could be wrong but what you've just outlined is extremely pertinent IMO.