Season Ticket Renewal Thread (Read first post)

[spursgirls]

My dad's been going to Spurs since 1948 and has had a season ticket since it was possible to buy one. Not in Phase 1.

Yeah I understand that, but what I mean is that we’ve both had season tickets for 11 years so should be in the same phase. A bit strange we aren’t in the same one.

I think there are a lot of people who have had season tickets for 11 years, so the next criteria is loyalty points as at the end of last season, so those who went to cup games or away games will have more points than those who didn't.

 

[St José Dominguez]

This is the concern to me. As great as the old WHL was, its limited seating and season tickets to a degree blocked out the ability for all our swathes of younger 16-25 year old fans to get season tickets etc. The type of guys at a stage in their life where they have the freedom to go to all away matches, generally piss about and drink lots and help create atmosphere in the stadium.

Latterly, the old WHL could still have an absolutely terrific atmosphere at times, but the new stadium I hoped would be helping to open up season tickets to those above types of guys. Not just the expected increase in corporate and families, but allowing increased access to the type of fresh blood that will continue on and generate a great atmosphere for the next ten years.

Other clubs that play in bigger stadiums and have a little less demand than us, have no problem with fresh blood attaining season tickets - places like Sunderland, Newcastle etc.

There is a chance that this pricing simply takes a lot of them out of the game

To be fair they've got the young adult pricing now so for a 18-21yr old it's actually cheaper to get a ST than probably at old WHL. Think maybe they should have pushed it to 23/24 though as a lot of 22yr olds are just out of Uni in first full time job.

 

[Spurs 1961]

Loved the old days when you could have fun and atmosphere without getting blind drunk, making obnoxious comments and chants and of course the aggression that goes with such. But then the 70's and 80's came and of course like many I stopped going. It was only when the changes were made to all seater stadia and football clubs started to offer some sort of service to people paying good money. No more having to queue up for hours to get tickets but you could actually do twentieth century things like pay by credit cards over the phone. Then of course they discovered toilets in football grounds.

Some of the facilities at Wembley I have enjoyed. Getting food and drink easily, taken no time to get to the toilet and back quickly are things I take for granted almost anywhere these days. As for food and drink prices they compare well to those outside the ground so I stopped using the chain groups in the area as they were no better than inside. Of course in Tottenham there are more options which is great so people don't need to eat on site.

So that leads us to the prices of tickets which I do think are way too much for season ticket holders. One off prices for tickets should be higher but the regulars deserve some better treatment as they will over a season invest a lot in their club. With all the other money in the game I wish Tottenham had a philosophy more like that of the Germans where even the top clubs have maximum prices at no more than 800 euros. They have great attendances, seem to have a great atmosphere and clearly send a message that this is still a fans game

 

[spursgirls]

Really don’t get why someone would pay £2200 for 1882 package when you can have virtually same seat for £1200. All you’re getting is access to a bar. And looks like there’s 60 bar/food outlets in the stadium. What’s the point ?

Food, drinks and programmes and a half time drink are also included. Presumably smaller queues for these things too.

 

[Saoirse]

For anyone interested this shows the disability sections

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/upl...ts/Fans/ST_Access_Prices_C03_singles_1819.pdf

So they've got the standing-approved section of the south stand separated from the bits above it by corporate seating in the middle, and wheelchair bayes either side. Clever. Wouldn't want an atmosphere to spread or anything.

 

[spursfan77]

Somethings definitely gone wrong. Why do you say we should be phase 3? If the brackets are as poster earlier we should be 1?

Yeah sorry, your right. They’ve really fucked yours up. I’ve got email evidence of when I’ve had mine since so they can’t say I’m making it up.

 

[adamsky]

Not on mine. Whole entire blocks are showing that.

The middle tier of the North stand is premium seats, they are not available toregular season tickets

 

[N17TJK]

Yeah sorry, your right. They’ve really fucked yours up. I’ve got email evidence of when I’ve had mine since so they can’t say I’m making it up.

Yeah who knows how they’ve managed to get it this wrong. My dad still has his season ticket book from 06/07 so hopefully that’s enough.

 

[spursgirls]

Has this been confirmed by the club?

Just checked and we have had our 3 tickets since the 06/07 season (making next season our 13th), have 440, 620 and 660 loyalty points and are all in phase 4?

I think that counts as 10 years, not 11, as it's up to the end of the 16/17 season that the level of loyalty points are taken.

 

[Saoirse]

If they had the data priority should have gone to those with ST from 2005 or earlier - the ones who went every week when we were shit before Jol took us back to Europe.

 

[MyNameIsNicolaBerti]

Like others, I feel like the club have really taken the piss on pricing. I was one of those whose waiting list position came up last year and, like many, I bought my ST last year because I wanted to make sure I had a seat going into the new stadium. Otherwise I would have just maintained my membership and hoped for the best this year, skipping the Wembley year. But instead I showed loyalty to the club and bought on faith I would be treated well going in to the new stadium. Now I discover I am likely to be paying several hundred more. I just feel like it's a massive middle finger not just to old season ticket holders but every new one as well. It feels like Levy is saying to himself "well, I've got them through the door now and I'll know they'll pay so why not fleece them for an extra few million a year?".

Not happy at all, and as someone said above Levy really is putting his head on the chopping black now if the club doesn't start delivering trophies and regular Champion's League football as people have greater incentive now to expect the best.

 

[N17TJK]

I think that counts as 10 years, not 11, as it's up to the end of the 16/17 season that the level of loyalty points are taken.

06/07 - 1 year
07/08 - 2 years
08/09 - 3
09/10 - 4
10/11 - 5
11/12 - 6
12/13 - 7
13/14 - 8
14/15 - 9
15/16 - 10
16/17 - 11
So even if it didn’t include this current season I would be 11 there’s no way I am 10.

 

[dagraham]

The middle tier of the North stand is premium seats, they are not available toregular season tickets

There’s no corporate seats in the North Stand as far as I’m aware.

 

[spursgirls]

06/07 - 1 year
07/08 - 2 years
08/09 - 3
09/10 - 4
10/11 - 5
11/12 - 6
12/13 - 7
13/14 - 8
14/15 - 9
15/16 - 10
16/17 - 11
So even if it didn’t include this current season I would be 11 there’s no way I am 10.

I'd count it as 11 too, but I'm trying to work out why they aren't making you phase 1, and that was all I could think of. There seems to be a lot of people in the wrong phase.

 

[scat1620]

I can just about stomach £6 for a pint of Gamma Ray.

Careful mate, that's exactly what Sergei Skripal said.

 

[hughy]

Sales Phase

1 - Tenure of 11 years (or more) and holding 310 or more Loyalty Points
2 - Tenure of 11 years (or more) and holding 200 - 309 Loyalty Points
3 - Tenure of 11 years (or more) and holding 0 - 199 Loyalty Points
4 - Tenure of 1 - 10 years
5 - First year as a Season Ticket holder and season ticket waiting list position of 1 - 10,000 at the end of the 2016/17 season
6 - First year as a Season Ticket holder and season ticket waiting list position of 10,001 – 25,000 at the end of the 2016/17 season
7 - First year as a Season Ticket holder and season ticket waiting list position of 25,001 – 43,999 at the end of the 2016/17 season
8 - First year as a Season Ticket holder and season ticket waiting list position of 44,000 – 66,050 at the end of the 2016/17 season

Don't think this is right, I was about 41k at the end of last season and I'm in phase 8. Not that it'll matter, all the tickets by stage 4 onwards will be in family areas or up in the Gods.

Ahh well, can't really complain as a lot of people have been royally screwed. At least mine is just a minor inconvenience.

 

[thebenjamin]

I think there are a lot of people who have had season tickets for 11 years, so the next criteria is loyalty points as at the end of last season, so those who went to cup games or away games will have more points than those who didn't.

The way they took a lot of loyalty points away from people who've been going for a long time penalises those who loyally attended games for many years when Spurs were really shit.

 

[SambaSpurs]

This is the concern to me. As great as the old WHL was, its limited seating and season tickets to a degree blocked out the ability for all our swathes of younger 16-25 year old fans to get season tickets etc. The type of guys at a stage in their life where they have the freedom to go to all away matches, generally piss about and drink lots and help create atmosphere in the stadium.

Latterly, the old WHL could still have an absolutely terrific atmosphere at times, but the new stadium I hoped would be helping to open up season tickets to those above types of guys. Not just the expected increase in corporate and families, but allowing increased access to the type of fresh blood that will continue on and generate a great atmosphere for the next ten years.

Other clubs that play in bigger stadiums and have a little less demand than us, have no problem with fresh blood attaining season tickets - places like Sunderland, Newcastle etc.

There is a chance that this pricing simply takes a lot of them out of the game

To be fair they've got the young adult pricing now so for a 18-21yr old it's actually cheaper to get a ST than probably at old WHL. Think maybe they should have pushed it to 23/24 though as a lot of 22yr olds are just out of Uni in first full time job.

I do think the club have got it wrong for 21-25 year old region. Fair play for bringing the young adult prices in, but it should have been extended.

The vast majority of this age range, including me, is going to be in phase 6+, mostly 7 and 8. By which point they'll likely be barely any tickets less than £1,200 left. With no concession there's not a hell of a lot who could legislate for that amount of money at that age.

That cuts out a big chunk of young fans who would contribute to the atmosphere. Just so happens this is also the age range when uni fees jumped from £3k a year to £9k.

 

[Hoops]

How did you guys find out about the phases etc???

 

[Saoirse]

I do think the club have got it wrong for 21-25 year old region. Fair play for bringing the young adult prices in, but it should have been extended.

The vast majority of this age range, including me, is going to be in phase 6+, mostly 7 and 8. By which point they'll likely be barely any tickets less than £1,200 left. With no concession there's not a hell of a lot who could legislate for that amount of money at that age.

That cuts out a big chunk of young fans who would contribute to the atmosphere. Just so happens this is also the age range when uni fees jumped from £3k a year to £9k.

And the ones who paid full price as 16 and 17 year olds before they gave child prices to U18s rather than U16s.