Should handshakes before Premiership games be scrapped ?

[tototoner]

Yes - more hassle than they are worth, never seen the point in them and all they bring is controversy that the game doesn't need

 

[Legacy]

If the players could all just man up, stop being dicks and show some respect and class to one another, there wouldn't be a problem with the handshakes.

Is this "not shaking someone's hand" always been going on? Earliest incident I can remember is Bridge not touching the hand of the bloke that had been touching his missus. Since then, there's been a fair few, but I can't remember any earlier than that off the top of my head.

 

[Jolly_Spud]

No - they are supposed to represent the game being played in a sporting manner, and to get rid of them in light of the current situation represents a lack of moral backbone by brushing everything under the carpet.

Whether or not in reality they are disingenuous because of what happens on the pitch is not the reason they are being called into question now - people are suggesting get rid of them because it's an easy way out.

They've not been a problem for the last 20 odd years have they?

What happened yesterday brought Liverpool FC and the game into disrepute.

 

[tototoner]

http://news.williamhill.com/a/football/4-1-pre-match-handshakes-to-be-scrapped/

4/1 pre-match handshakes to be scrapped

William Hill are offering 4/1 that pre-match handshakes will be scrapped officially in Premier League matches before the start of next season.

'Following the latest pre-match handshake debacle there will be pressure to scrap them completely' said Hill's spokesman Graham Sharpe.

Hills are 1/7 that they remain an official part of pre-match proceedings next season.
Hills had offered 1/5 that Evra and Suarez WOULD shake hands, and 10/3 that they would not.

'Punters called the pre-match handshake wrong on this occasion' said Sharpe.
After Rio Ferdinand refused to shake hands with Suarez, Hills are offering 11/4 that he and John Terry will NOT start in the same Euro 12 side for England.

 

[tototoner]

No - they are supposed to represent the game being played in a sporting manner, and to get rid of them in light of the current situation represents a lack of moral backbone by brushing everything under the carpet.

Whether or not in reality they are disingenuous because of what happens on the pitch is not the reason they are being called into question now - people are suggesting get rid of them because it's an easy way out.

They've not been a problem for the last 20 odd years have they?

What happened yesterday brought Liverpool FC and the game into disrepute.

are you sure pre-match handshakes go that far back ?

edit - just checked and the ritual was only introduced start of 2004-2005 season, so obviously it isn't working

 

[Spurs_Bear]

No of course they shouldn't. Suarez should be banned again for a further shitload of matches for bringing the game into disrepute.

 

[tototoner]

No of course they shouldn't. Suarez should be banned again for a further shitload of matches for bringing the game into disrepute.

and Rio also then ?

 

[AngerManagement]

I am not a fan of them, pointless in my eyes

Are they really needed every damn game?

I think they were better when reserved for cup finals and international matches

I don't see any need for them before every game

 

[Jolly_Spud]

are you sure pre-match handshakes go that far back ?

edit - just checked and the ritual was only introduced start of 2004-2005 season, so obviously it isn't working

The thing is though, it's like you're treating the 'handshake' as the cause of all these problems, when frankly it could and should've been use to actually draw a line for the recent problems that were caused on the pitch during a game.

We're only having this discussion because somebody didn't have the common sense to grasp a situation that was presented to them to move on from what he himself suggests was a misunderstanding.

And for that reason it's being suggested to change a whole system to accommodate the unfortunate actions of one person, which I don't agree with.

If the pre-match hand shake is to be abandoned, it should not be as a consequence of this.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

and Rio also then ?

Reactionary. Not the same context.

 

[CosmicHotspur]

No. The tradition is about respecting and welcoming your opponents and should be maintained in the spirit of sportsmanship.

Players who refuse to shake hands, for whatever reason, are a disgrace and should be penalised.

That kind of attitude is a shameful blot not only on their own reputations but also on the beautiful game.

 

[tototoner]

The thing is though, it's like you're treating the 'handshake' as the cause of all these problems, when frankly it could and should've been use to actually draw a line for the recent problems that were caused on the pitch during a game.

We're only having this discussion because somebody didn't have the common sense to grasp a situation that was presented to them to move on from what he himself suggests was a misunderstanding.

And for that reason it's being suggested to change a whole system to accommodate the unfortunate actions of one person, which I don't agree with.

If the pre-match hand shake is to be abandoned, it should not be as a consequence of this.

no not at all am I saying they are the cause of all these problems ( Suarez - Bridge - A Ferdinand ) but the media make such an issue of it now that it heightens the tension and that is not needed

as for drawing a line yesterday Yes it could have - but it didn't, quite the opposite, why take the chance ?

 

[Jolly_Spud]

no not at all am I saying they are the cause of all these problems ( Suarez - Bridge - A Ferdinand ) but the media make such an issue of it now that it heightens the tension and that is not needed

as for drawing a line yesterday Yes it could have - but it didn't, quite the opposite, why take the chance ?

Id take the chance to expose racism and bigotry every time. I agree with what you're saying about the media hyping things up; and they're part of the problem, but that's for another discussion.

I guess it's a similar discussion about a minutes silence Vs a minutes applause - if people decide applause is preferable because they're worried that others may disrespect it, then I think it's the wrong decision. If people do then they deserve to get everything thats coming to them. If it's because applause is a better tribute and that perhaps it doesn't kill the games atmosphere then that's fair enough.

I think Utd recently decided to do a minutes silence at a Man City game for the Munich air crash for the same reasons.

People should take responsibility for their actions and be held accountable.

Good discussion tho:clap:

 

[TheBlueRooster]

Scrap 'em. A waste of time, shake hands at the end of the match if you wish. Leave it to the managers and captains to shake hands before the game.

 

[neogenisis]

Its a really tough one for me, i remember when Bridge refused to shake Terrys hand to be fair i would have struggled not to nut the fu**er. Handhakes are indeed to show respect but in the current cases ie Terry/Evra there was a complete lack of respect to start with wasnt there?
It makes some situations very difficult we are human and sometimes the right thing is very very hard to do. I know if i had been Evra or Bridge i would NOT have wanted to shake hands not in the slightest. Rightly or wrongly i'm just me with my apparent flaws.

 

[L-man]

No, there has been what 3 incidents in the 100's (1000s?) of matches since it begun. That's not much of a problem is it

 

[HappySpur]

Have no issue with them, but somehow we've turned them into so political statement for almost a game a week. So get rid, as such a simple thing is too grand for the people that play the game.

 

[faymantaray]

Where then would the scumbag soap opera media get their drama from??

 

[antiloqus]

No, they should all just man the fuck up.

 

[LSUY]

Pre-match handshakes should be scrapped for all competitive football matches. A number of players have already said they don't like them and they are only ever remembered for negative reasons. If the players want to shake hands then let it happen at the end of the game, where you're more likely to get an iconic image such as Moore and Pele.