Sissoko doesn't 'deserve' a place in the team

[onthetwo]

We constantly read that we paid 30m. It's a good story from Newcastle point of view but I cannot believe levy would commit to that sort of money for a player like sissoko in the last hours of the window. More likely that it is 6m per year for 5 years . Will prob be gone by end of next season or poss earlier so minimal risk involved. God knows why we bought him. Must have been desperate

Regardless of the timing of the cash flows, and how long he stays, we apparently agreed to purchase him from Newcastle for £30m. We can sell him in January, to cut our losses but we will still be on the hook. No different to buying a sofa from DFS over 5 years.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

It would be inane to sack a manager on the basis of one player. Even the greatest managers make mistakes with the players they bought. Veron wasn't an overwhelming success at United despite being world class. No one is blaming Klopp for his treatment of Sakho.

Sacking won't happen, but Levy may well think twice before stumping up big money on a single player...

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Regardless of the timing of the cash flows, and how long he stays, we agreed to purchase him from Newcastle for £30m. We can sell him in January, to cut our losses but we will still be on the hook. No different to buying a sofa from DFS over 5 years.

Yep - whether it's £30 million up front, or 5 payments of £6 million, we still have to pay Newcastle £30 million.
Unless some Chinese club comes in for him in the January window, we won't be recouping anywhere near that money, so we will still end up out of pocket, unless he pulls his finger out and starts to deliver on the pitch.

 

[EQP]

We signed him for that much because that's what Newcastle demanded for him, and because Pochettino supposedly really wanted him.

This is the killer line for me though 'There's nothing else to find in it. It is about football. Different things happen. You sign a player and then you expect something, and you don't find what you expected.'

Sorry Mo Po, but you were warned by many...

So sissoko catfished Mopo?

 

[2bearis2do]

I think he was recommended to us by Emmanuel Adebayor.
Can't wait to get rid of him already.

 

[Sweetsman]

Sacking won't happen, but Levy may well think twice before stumping up big money on a single player...

I thought we only paid £6m up front in case this happened.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

There were some rumours that we only pay this £6m a year whilst he's at Spurs.
IE if he does 3 years we only pay £18m
I can't believe it's true personally but if it is, we could get our first instalment back easily enough.

 

[Sweetsman]

We'll soon know if he has a future with us. He was very good at the Euros and I guess the hope was that he would reproduce that form with us. To be fair to him, it is still too early to tell, but he should just keep his mouth shut. Koeman clearly saw something in him, too.

 

[Sweetsman]

Sacking won't happen, but Levy may well think twice before stumping up big money on a single player...

When has he done that as a rule?

 

[yid-down-under]

Hindsight is 20/20, to be fair. At least we only have one player who we expected "something, but you don't find what you expected." Man U, for instance, have Pogba, Slatan, Darmian, Shaw, Mikhitaryan, Scheiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Depay, Rojo and Martial.
It is naive to think every player we sign has the same impact as Alderweireld or Dalli. It would be nice but it's not reality.

I never thought he was going to have any impact, that's my point.

 

[mil1lion]

Sissoko is clearly a double agent sent by the scum

 

[Japhet]

Sadly the way football works means Sissoko won't be afforded the time to prove people wrong.
His poor performances can cost a team games and that can't be allowed to happen.

Same goes for managers and it's not the wrong thing. There's enormous money and the future of the clubs at stake and managers can't be given too long to turn things around before it's too late*

*applies to every manager, I'm not suddenly suggesting poch out.

We've got at least half a dozen players in that category at the moment. Are we going to bin all of them too or is Sissoko just a convenient target? He came in with no pre season and no match fitness - I'm not surprised he hasn't pulled up trees. Can't say I'm a fan of his but all this knee jerk stuff is such rubbish.

 

[guiltyparty]

We constantly read that we paid 30m. It's a good story from Newcastle point of view but I cannot believe levy would commit to that sort of money for a player like sissoko in the last hours of the window. More likely that it is 6m per year for 5 years . Will prob be gone by end of next season or poss earlier so minimal risk involved. God knows why we bought him. Must have been desperate

This literally makes no sense.

As I've said before, so we could sell him for 10m after a year and make a 4m profit? That's the suggestion of that financial setup. When they had 30m on the table from Everton?

If it's just 6m a year for duration of his contract, that's how most transfers work so isn't worthy of comment as we'll end up owing Newcastle 30m whatever

I've yet to see anyone else explain another way this works yet it keeps getting brought up

 

[adamsky]

We constantly read that we paid 30m. It's a good story from Newcastle point of view but I cannot believe levy would commit to that sort of money for a player like sissoko in the last hours of the window. More likely that it is 6m per year for 5 years . Will prob be gone by end of next season or poss earlier so minimal risk involved. God knows why we bought him. Must have been desperate

Even if it is £6m per year for 5 years we are still committed to paying that, regardless whether we sell him tomorrow or in 2 years time. Whatever way you look it, we look to have overpaid for him. This is especially poor as we can't afford to waste money when building the stadium.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Even if it is £6m per year for 5 years we are still committed to paying that, regardless whether we sell him tomorrow or in 2 years time. Whatever way you look it, we look to have overpaid for him. This is especially poor as we can't afford to waste money when building the stadium.

I reckon we just wrote off the money they owed us for Townsend.
Seeing as he's actually worse than Sissoko it's probably all just theoretical money anyway.

 

[guiltyparty]

I reckon we just wrote off the money they owed us for Townsend.
Seeing as he's actually worse than Sissoko it's probably all just theoretical money anyway.

That wouldn't surprise me. I've read somewhere that yedlin/Townsend money owed meant in real money we got him for half that. But that then doesn't make sense with the 6m for 5 years

 

[JimmyG2]

I don't care if we got him for nothing
and three bags of King Edwards.
He doesn't look a bargain even at that.
He is also a potential block on at least one of our own.

He won't be sold until at least the end of the season
as too many people will lose face.
Well two anyway.
We gave Lamela a couple of years
so Sissoko will get at least half that.

He may even surprise us.
Though no signs yet.

 

[Danners9]

I don't care if we got him for nothing
and three bags of King Edwards.
He doesn't look a bargain even at that.
He is also a potential block on at least one of our own.

He won't be sold until at least the end of the season
as too many people will lose face.
Well two anyway.
We gave Lamela a couple of years
so Sissoko will get at least half that.

He may even surprise us.
Though no signs yet.

I got halfway through this before realising it isn't a poem...

 

[jolibee]

To hell with it all.... make Sissoko Captain

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

To hell with it all.... make Sissoko Captain

Didn't we try that with Adebeyor to try and get the best out of him?

Failed