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BPR_U16

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factually incorrect from start - he is not our record signing, and we have not paid £26m for him.

Given that reporter hasn't got that right, what hope the rest being correct?
 

Mr Pink

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factually incorrect from start - he is not our record signing, and we have not paid £26m for him.

Given that reporter hasn't got that right, what hope the rest being correct?

Not a lot.

Even though this is probably bullshit, I don't want him sold.

I'm excited to see what Poch can do with him.
 

yankspurs

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We shouldnt sell him. He's gonna be our #1 striker for at least the first few matches now, I think. If he does well, Poch wont drop him immediately like Tim did. Plus, I think Soldado will be good under Poch's tactics. Lamela and Eriksen are creative and will find him. I doubt Ade will be returning in 7 days. Its malaria. More likely, he'll be reevaluated in 7 days and we'll go from there. Could be a lingering bout for alittle while.
 

Syn_13

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factually incorrect from start - he is not our record signing, and we have not paid £26m for him.

Given that reporter hasn't got that right, what hope the rest being correct?

How much have we actually paid for him so far? And just because we haven't paid the whole £26m yet are we still contractually obliged to pay the remaining amount even if he moves on? In other words, if we get £15m for him will it still be a loss?

Personally, can't see Levy accepting a loss on a player that we bought so much for, not after a single season anyway.
 

St José Dominguez

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What I struggle to understand is this idea that Soldado wouldn't fit into Pochettino's style of play.
Are people judging Lambert purely on his size? Southampton didn't play 'lump it to the big man' football. The pressing, high line football makes the size of striker quite redundant. What it asks of the striker is for them to be very good on the ball. What I found strange last season, after watching Soldado a fair bit at Valencia and wanting us to sign him purely on his finishing, was that his touch, passing and link play is actually extremely good.
I think in terms of that 'Lambert' position he fits it rather well.

If, and it is a big if, he can rediscover his clinical edge quickly I feel it would be impossible for us to find better. Before he signed for us I thought he was too good for us, hopefully I can think that again.
 

Franchise60

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What I struggle to understand is this idea that Soldado wouldn't fit into Pochettino's style of play.
Are people judging Lambert purely on his size? Southampton didn't play 'lump it to the big man' football. The pressing, high line football makes the size of striker quite redundant. What it asks of the striker is for them to be very good on the ball. What I found strange last season, after watching Soldado a fair bit at Valencia and wanting us to sign him purely on his finishing, was that his touch, passing and link play is actually extremely good.
I think in terms of that 'Lambert' position he fits it rather well.

If, and it is a big if, he can rediscover his clinical edge quickly I feel it would be impossible for us to find better. Before he signed for us I thought he was too good for us, hopefully I can think that again.

Well Southampton played a lot of long balls in their style of play. They were towards the top of the table in that stat.

While I agree Soldado has pretty good touch and link up play, it is nearly all one touch type stuff. He seemed to struggle quite a bit holding up the ball in a more traditional sense.

Poch could switch things up and Soldado could be a hit, but I certainly don't think it would be by replicating Lambert's style of play under Poch at Southampton.
 

Sweech

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What I struggle to understand is this idea that Soldado wouldn't fit into Pochettino's style of play.
Are people judging Lambert purely on his size? Southampton didn't play 'lump it to the big man' football. The pressing, high line football makes the size of striker quite redundant. What it asks of the striker is for them to be very good on the ball. What I found strange last season, after watching Soldado a fair bit at Valencia and wanting us to sign him purely on his finishing, was that his touch, passing and link play is actually extremely good.
I think in terms of that 'Lambert' position he fits it rather well.

If, and it is a big if, he can rediscover his clinical edge quickly I feel it would be impossible for us to find better. Before he signed for us I thought he was too good for us, hopefully I can think that again.
Southampton did use Lambert as somewhat of a Target Man though. Sending a lot of long balls up for him to win and pass off to one of the other attackers.
 

St José Dominguez

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Southampton did use Lambert as somewhat of a Target Man though. Sending a lot of long balls up for him to win and pass off to one of the other attackers.

Possibly more to do with Southampton coming up against better opposition rather than what Pochettino wants from team. If under pressure, an out ball is necessary but with quality we have we'd expect to be putting pressure on and especially at home feel Soldado fits that for me.
Away against top 4 or 5 is different though.
 

guy

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We could utilise chadli in a similar type of role as the target, but he would be starting from the left forward role rather than in the middle.
 

Sweech

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Possibly more to do with Southampton coming up against better opposition rather than what Pochettino wants from team. If under pressure, an out ball is necessary but with quality we have we'd expect to be putting pressure on and especially at home feel Soldado fits that for me.
Away against top 4 or 5 is different though.
Yeah, that's entirely possible. I wish I knew more about what tactics he was mainly utilizing during his time in Spain.
 

guy

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Yeah, that's entirely possible. I wish I knew more about what tactics he was mainly utilizing during his time in Spain.

Probably similar to his time at Soton Id guess, since he had Dani Osvaldo at Espanyol, him being the big no.9.

In a way Espanyol and Soton are similar, mid table teams who would play on the counter.

Scary/exciting to see what Poch does for us, as he will not be used to the opposition sitting deep and parking the bus.
 

spurs9

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How much have we actually paid for him so far? And just because we haven't paid the whole £26m yet are we still contractually obliged to pay the remaining amount even if he moves on? In other words, if we get £15m for him will it still be a loss?

Personally, can't see Levy accepting a loss on a player that we bought so much for, not after a single season anyway.
13m plus another 13m dependent on success (probably number of games played, goals scored, CL qualification etc).
 

spurs9

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Well Southampton played a lot of long balls in their style of play. They were towards the top of the table in that stat.

While I agree Soldado has pretty good touch and link up play, it is nearly all one touch type stuff. He seemed to struggle quite a bit holding up the ball in a more traditional sense.

Poch could switch things up and Soldado could be a hit, but I certainly don't think it would be by replicating Lambert's style of play under Poch at Southampton.
You could just switch Soldado's Role with Chadli's to a degree. Chadli being the long ball target & charged with holding up the ball and Soldado making runs in behind.
 

crokey

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There is not a chance that Poch would want rid of Soldado, he may yet be sold but I would be astounded if Poch is pushing for him to leave
 

Danny1

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Funnily enough I think that one of the best things that Soldado does is bring the ball down & lay it off to his team mates. He then will almost always spin off and want the return pass. If we can play the correct balls into the feet of Soldado then I think we will see him flourish.

Already we saw a nice link up between him & Lamela and if we start playing a more patient & pressing game then I believe Soldado could score a lot of goals.
 

spursfan77

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The Express are as bad as The Metro for getting stories correct. Mind you, you'd think they'd eventually get one right if they keep trying.
 
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