Some people

[ThorntonSpur]

I do not understand how people can blame Harry for a key player suddenly becoming ill 2 mins before Kick off.

how can you balme a manager for a dick brain making 2 identical challenges to get sent off when inbetween the ref had a word and the manager was shouting at him to calm down.

we did well to get this far then it blew up - no luck whatsoever

Real showed how to play against ten men but we gave them 2 soft goals but dont we always!!

ive always maintained PL is more important the players have 8 games to pull in six or seven wins to show trhe fans they want it

COYS

 

[Maske2g]

I do not understand how people can blame Harry for a key player suddenly becoming ill 2 mins before Kick off.


COYS

Who was told to mark Adebayour? Lennon?

"Ok Jermaine, Aaron is out, we had him picking up their 6ft 3 powerhouse at set pieces....."

 

[full-frontal-nudity]

Because our players were all over the shop, thats how. Even before the sending off we couldn't get the ball, because our shape was like a children's teams'. Nobody knew their role. Modric has been immense in central midfield this year, all of a sudden, we have 3 in the middle, no one on the left and Bale on the right. It was a mess.

We aren't going to finish 4th. Get it into your brain now to avoid the disappointment. We didn't freshen up our team. The same players that had the piss taken out of them last year like Pav and Bentley were awful this season because no player can take that treatment two years running.

This year Krankjar and Bassong, who were both excellent last season, have been treated like terrorists by REdknapp, and people wonder why these players come back into the team and can't perform miracles.

Even Jenas has had the same. Started the season well.....dropped at first opportunity, and has been absolutely awful ever since.

Legendary man management.......

This

If you think it is just about tonight then I don't know what team you have been watching in recent weeks but it sure can't be Spurs, last night we were just ruthlessly exposed and it just showed the shortcomings of recent weeks (West Ham, Wigan, Blackpool, Wolves, Fulham etc)

That thread about Harry was not about last night, last night simply was the straw that broke the camels back that's all

and this.

 

[steveitr]

If you think it is just about tonight then I don't know what team you have been watching in recent weeks but it sure can't be Spurs, last night we were just ruthlessly exposed and it just showed the shortcomings of recent weeks (West Ham, Wigan, Blackpool, Wolves, Fulham etc)

That thread about Harry was not about last night, last night simply was the straw that broke the camels back that's all

Injuries havent helped, ok so sack harry and have an exodus of players leaving the club back to midtable mediocrity (sp?)

Do you not appreciate what harry has done for us?

We have 8 games to try for 4th, if not theres always next season its not the end of the world, we will be stronger next season, we are consistantly up there now, bales signed a new contract, we now have level headed players who want to progress.

Big game saturday we need three points and a convincing win COYS!!

 

[vicbob]

If you think it is just about tonight then I don't know what team you have been watching in recent weeks but it sure can't be Spurs, last night we were just ruthlessly exposed and it just showed the shortcomings of recent weeks (West Ham, Wigan, Blackpool, Wolves, Fulham etc)

That thread about Harry was not about last night, last night simply was the straw that broke the camels back that's all

While i don't necessarily disagree with you, i am by no means Harry's biggest fan, he has been the most succesful manager we have had for a long time. We have just played in the Champions league for the first time and got to the quarter finals, we did finish fourth, those are facts. Some will say inspite of him, others will say because of him, but they are facts. Champions league aside. i am gutted we have not seized this opportunity to push on in the league, i dont see us having the same opportunity next year, Liverpool will better, Man City more settled etc etc. 4th will be much harder next year, im sure.
But who else is there to take over, be careful what you wish for, look at Aston Villa this year, how many would take Martin O'Neil back now???
Is Harry the answer, i really don't know, he has made some major fuck ups the last few weeks, but does he deserve more time and credit for what he has done, probably.

 

[Matt C]

Injuries havent helped, ok so sack harry and have an exodus of players leaving the club back to midtable mediocrity (sp?)

Do you not appreciate what harry has done for us?

We have 8 games to try for 4th, if not theres always next season its not the end of the world, we will be stronger next season, we are consistantly up there now, bales signed a new contract, we now have level headed players who want to progress.

Big game saturday we need three points and a convincing win COYS!!

Wenger has had more injuries to deal with than we have so while injuries haven't helped it is more to it than that.

Why have our strikers failed all season ? have all 4 suddenly got past it at the same time ? is it bad coaching ? if it is the latter who does the buck stop with for appointing the striker coaches ? Harry

Why can't we perform against the small teams ? 6 points out of 27 against little teams, why ? players not motivated ? players badly organised ? who's job is it to motivate and decide tactics ? Harry

The test of a great manager is how he deals with bad times and a crisis, we just seem to be digging a deeper and deeper hole rather than digging out of one

 

[adiepf]

facts are facts why do people not understand that? its not that Harry is a bad bloke or owt, hes a top fella but then so is ian dowie!

also Harry & his coaching staff seem to have a real problem with fitness...

the amount of muscle strains/pulls/groins weve had this season is beyond belief!!!

also rafa VDV openly sais we DONT do tactics!

 

[full-frontal-nudity]

facts are facts why do people not understand that? its not that Harry is a bad bloke or owt, hes a top fella but then so is ian dowie!

also Harry & his coaching staff seem to have a real problem with fitness...

the amount of muscle strains/pulls/groins weve had this season is beyond belief!!!

also rafa VDV openly sais we DONT do tactics!

Word life.

 

[Maske2g]

I wouldn't condone a sacking. Things could be worse. A new manager is not guarenteed to do much more.
But if Mourinho is on the market....

The long and short is, unless we make some significant changes in the summer we will slip back again a little bit more. Even the greatest teams in the world constantly freshen it up. Etto and Ibra, two players we'd kill for, both surplus at Barca in recent years. We need to learn from last years mistakes.

Benny had a great run for 18 months at left back, in 2011 he has been very poor. he needs a shake up.

Right backs are average. Walker to be given a chance. He can become great.

2 new centre forwards.

Out with the spice boys, Jenas, Defoe, they have reached their level and it's not on ours. I wouldn't complain if Lennon was improved upon. his form has been constistently inconsistent for 3 years now.

Pav and Krankjar don't want to be here. They are 10 million pound players who have barely been given a sniff and as a result are becoming more and more worthless.

 

[MrWoolley]

facts are facts why do people not understand that? its not that Harry is a bad bloke or owt, hes a top fella but then so is ian dowie!

also Harry & his coaching staff seem to have a real problem with fitness...

the amount of muscle strains/pulls/groins weve had this season is beyond belief!!!

also rafa VDV openly sais we DONT do tactics!

To be fair, this has been happening for years before Harry came! Very annoying, but then I guess alot of clubs are in the same boat.

 

[full-frontal-nudity]

I wouldn't condone a sacking. Things could be worse. A new manager is not guarenteed to do much more.
But if Mourinho is on the market....

The long and short is, unless we make some significant changes in the summer we will slip back again a little bit more. Even the greatest teams in the world constantly freshen it up. Etto and Ibra, two players we'd kill for, both surplus at Barca in recent years. We need to learn from last years mistakes.

Benny had a great run for 18 months at left back, in 2011 he has been very poor. he needs a shake up.

Right backs are average. Walker to be given a chance. He can become great.

2 new centre forwards.

Out with the spice boys, Jenas, Defoe, they have reached their level and it's not on ours. I wouldn't complain if Lennon was improved upon. his form has been constistently inconsistent for 3 years now.

Pav and Krankjar don't want to be here. They are 10 million pound players who have barely been given a sniff and as a result are becoming more and more worthless.

If he did come on the market would he come to us?
I'd be happy to let those players mentioned go in the summer for the right price.
Would I be happy to let Harry have that money in the summer to spend it on mediocre players?
Or no players at all waiting on a bargain basement buy last minute...

 

[steveitr]

I wouldn't condone a sacking. Things could be worse. A new manager is not guarenteed to do much more.
But if Mourinho is on the market....

The long and short is, unless we make some significant changes in the summer we will slip back again a little bit more. Even the greatest teams in the world constantly freshen it up. Etto and Ibra, two players we'd kill for, both surplus at Barca in recent years. We need to learn from last years mistakes.

Benny had a great run for 18 months at left back, in 2011 he has been very poor. he needs a shake up.

Right backs are average. Walker to be given a chance. He can become great.

2 new centre forwards.

Out with the spice boys, Jenas, Defoe, they have reached their level and it's not on ours. I wouldn't complain if Lennon was improved upon. his form has been constistently inconsistent for 3 years now.

Pav and Krankjar don't want to be here. They are 10 million pound players who have barely been given a sniff and as a result are becoming more and more worthless.

This post i agree with, your right we do need a freshen up in the summer, not an overhaul but we do need a few ins and outs, and the only manager i would take at the minute would be mourinho, next season will be tough but if we make the right moves in the transfer market we will be ready.

 

[steveitr]

To be fair, this has been happening for years before Harry came! Very annoying, but then I guess alot of clubs are in the same boat.

Was going to say that myself, been happening for years nothing new unfortunatly

 

[WhiteHart4Ever]

:duh:Just had a flick through some threads on here this morning:bang:

Cant put into words how infuriating it is reading some posts on here after a bad result.

Ok so we got beat 4-0, with 10 men, with a reshuffle 2 mins before the game.

We were 1-0 down at half time so in effect those claiming harry is a plum for putting bale on the right first half and mixing up the midfield your theory goes out the window cos this was changed second half!

The performance against one of the best teams in the world wasnt deserving of a 4-0 defeat, the 3rd was a wonder goal and the 4th was perhaps a bit fortunate.

I cant believe people saying harry must go, we are shit, weve been poor all season, if 5th in the league and quarter finals of the champions league is poor then go support someone else, weve had a good season all things considered with the injuries we have had to contend with.

Some so called fans are a joke.

Indeed. Was gonna post a similar thing this morning but ended up with the conclusion that some people are lost cases. Should be said, though, that there seemed to be a limited number of people posting the same cr*p repeatedly rather than a large "Harry out", "Rubbish season" and so on crowd.

Having said that - that I'm incredibly annoyed with some of the statements, short memory, lack of football knowledge and general incompetence, that is - we have really performed below par in recent weeks, and we should have been in a very strong position in the league by now with better games against teams such as Blackpool, Wolves and West Ham. Also, there's every reason to be critical to Peter Crouch for two tackles he never ever should have even thought about making. Mentally - at least - he couldn't cope and that more than anything else led to our defeat.

BUT: We have enjoyed arguably the two best seasons for the past 20 years in 2009/10 and 2010/11, and all the players and staff should be held in extremely high regard because of this. We have performed superbly in CL, beating the Dutch champions, Werder Bremen and the two Milan's in a more entertaining, free-scoring fashion than we could ever have even dreamed of. I also think we managed quite well with 10 men and without some key players against Real for most of the game yesterday.

We're now going out of the CL and face a tough - though a long way from impossible - battle to qualify for CL 2011/12. Either way, we've come a very very long way the past couple of seasons and I'm confident that with or without CL we will continue to improve next year and further consolidate our place among the 6 dominant teams in the league with a decent run for the title and a top 3 finish.

Dissappointed I may be, but I am also immensely proud to be a Spurs supporter and confident that we're at the beginning of a golden age for Spurs.

COYS :clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[ajspurs]

^^ Exactlly.

To think, when we were sitting bottom of the league a few seasons ago that we would make the CL the next season, get into the CL quarter finals the season after and still be challenging for a CL position in the league and some people would be as unhappy as they are now :rofl:

 

[tttcowan]

Does anyone know a good spurs forum where people aren't complete ****s? I'm happy today and happy with spurs and harry and would like to share my thoughts with people who aren't such an ungrateful bunch of dicks.

 

[gregga]

I'm getting sick with some of the reactions on here to people being fed-up with Harry and the team.

I just read this on the Guardian and had to check for myself as I simply couldn't believe it:

"Tottenham have not won a match since February, when they beat Milan in the San Siro"

This is absolutely unacceptable. People aren't reacting the way they are because of one defeat against one of the best teams in the world.

We are on a really poor run - the manager has failed to react and he must take the blame. If he doesn't sort things out before the end of the season his position has to be considered.

People were saying the same thing about Ramos - putting everything down to some kind of post CC hangover, and look how that turned out.

 

[full-frontal-nudity]

I'm getting sick with some of the reactions on here to people being fed-up with Harry and the team.

I just read this on the Guardian and had to check for myself as I simply couldn't believe it:

"Tottenham have not won a match since February, when they beat Milan in the San Siro"

This is absolutely unacceptable. People aren't reacting the way they are because of one defeat against one of the best teams in the world.

We are on a really poor run - the manager has failed to react and he must take the blame. If he doesn't sort things out before the end of the season his position has to be considered.

People were saying the same thing about Ramos - putting everything down to some kind of post CC hangover, and look how that turned out.

bone bone bone bone bone

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Does no one realise that every manager has deficiencies? Before Harry came along we were under performing and now arguably if you look at our stadium size wage cap etc.. are over performing.

How can people use the fact that we lost to the most expensively assembled team on the planet away from home in the champions league as a stick to bash our manage with?

 

[Azrael]

I'm getting sick with some of the reactions on here to people being fed-up with Harry and the team.

I just read this on the Guardian and had to check for myself as I simply couldn't believe it:

"Tottenham have not won a match since February, when they beat Milan in the San Siro"

This is absolutely unacceptable. People aren't reacting the way they are because of one defeat against one of the best teams in the world.

We are on a really poor run - the manager has failed to react and he must take the blame. If he doesn't sort things out before the end of the season his position has to be considered.

People were saying the same thing about Ramos - putting everything down to some kind of post CC hangover, and look how that turned out.

I think what people are getting a bit pissed off about is that the sheer deluge of threads about our poor run and Harry's credentials have come about after this result and not after the weekend result.....and that Harry is getting torn apart for his tactics last night.

Harry deserves some criticisms for recent mistakes yes, but to call for his sacking off the back of a game like RM is utterly silly stuff.

What I want to know is where were these people at the weekend? Where were they when I was debating Harry's selection choices and getting called a Harry basher? These people are nowhere to be seen. All season I have reiterated my views on mistakes I think Harry makes, namely his striker choices, and our transfer failings. I even said when Harry first joined us that Harry might not be the man for the next level once he rescued us from relegation. But throughout the season I have been consistent that while I think he is making frustrating mistakes, he has done enough to be given the benefit of the doubt. I have not changed that view all season.

So imagine how frustrating it is for me to read some of the shit that has been posted on here in the past 12 or so hours. Suddenly those accusing me of being a Harry basher are lining up to lynch Redknapp. It's inconsistent, reactionary bullshit.