Spurs and VAR

[Wick3d]

They need to implement automated measures where they can. At least it gives us something other than the official to blame when it goes tits up.

 

[cwy21]

There's two things that bother me.
1. If the VAR realised he had made a mistake, why didn't he tell the ref and correct it?
2. We haven't seen any angles that actually show for sure the moment the ball was actually kicked. What if it was a frame or two later and really was offside?

Spurs were set up to take the free kick. Once the var says check complete the ref allowed Spurs to restart. At that point nothing can be done since the game has restarted.

 

[Houdini]

Spurs were set up to take the free kick. Once the var says check complete the ref allowed Spurs to restart. At that point nothing can be done since the game has restarted.

I wont be one bit surprised when the referee does do that, ie. gets a message and then stops an already restarted game.
A perfect storm of bad timing and bad decisions.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Simply ludicrous

 

[cjbyid]

Simply ludicrous

Well that guy sounds like a fool.

 

[tommo84]

Why does anyone think Spurs would or should agree to a replay? We benefitted from a huge stroke of luck but with 60 mins of the game left it did not define the game.

Simply ludicrous

What a load of bollocks. He’s not a Spurs fan - he’s a child hoping for a load of retweets.

 

[Japhet]

We've had so many shitty VAR decisions go against us that I really couldn't care less that we've benefitted from one. They range from Dier's 'handball' behind his head to 'If he'd taken a size 9 instead of a size 10 he'd be onside'. Liverpool in particular have had some outrageous ones against us from Sissoko's 'handball' to Jota kicking Skipp in the head and then going on to score the winner. Really glad they've been fucked over for once. Salah getting booked after he thought Bissouma went over too easily was just poetic justice of the highest level. PMSL.

 

[cwy21]

The laws are clear that an error from VAR cannot be protested. What could be protested is restarting the match and then stopping to change the decision. Which is why the VAR and ref couldn't do anything once Spurs took the free kick

 

[BorjeSpurs]

Liverpool fans "It wasn't a red card on Jones because he didn't have the intent to hurt him".

The below, amazingly, wasn't given as a pen for Brentford today. What's the logic of that then? That Turner didn't have the intent to kick Wissa but was looking at the ball?

 

[Fergus]

There has been a fair amount of discussion here about problems with the tech, or with people unable to use the tech. I spent almost two decades working as a technical author in military avionics. What was hammered into us time and time again is that the documentation and operator training had to be clear and unambiguous so that any decision made from tech inputs was almost invariably the correct one. Our technical manuals were tested over hundreds of hours in real-time simulations, while the operators themselves were trained and tested to breaking-point in similar simulations once the bugs had been ironed out of the manuals and procedures. I suspect that PGMOL and the VAR hardware and software vendors simply haven't spent enough time and effort getting their documentation and procedures right and training officials to adhere to them. If they had, matchday VAR officials would make about as many mistakes as air traffic controllers, i.e. very, very few indeed.

 

[Pochemon94]

one of the robbies intro'd the podcast with nbc saying that this was the closest he's ever gotten to saying there should be a replay. He did say immediately after that no replay should take place, just that it was that bad and something needs to change in terms of going to semi automated (i agree it should go semi automated) and that he wanted to make it clear that the Premier league clubs veto'd going semi automated when it came to a vote.

 

[glacierSpurs]

one of the robbies intro'd the podcast with nbc saying that this was the closest he's ever gotten to saying there should be a replay. He did say immediately after that no replay should take place, just that it was that bad and something needs to change in terms of going to semi automated (i agree it should go semi automated) and that he wanted to make it clear that the Premier league clubs veto'd going semi automated when it came to a vote.

Lol. That match must be his first football game he had watched.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Scrap VAR. Made the game worse.

 

[easley91]

Scrap VAR. Made the game worse.

If you scrap VAR Jones doesn't get sent off, however the goal would still be disallowed and given as offside. VAR did its job in one incident and the humans made the error in the second.

 

[Gassin's finest]

If you scrap VAR Jones doesn't get sent off, however the goal would still be disallowed and given as offside. VAR did its job in one incident and the humans made the error in the second.

It might've been a better football match then. Too much faff in the game.

 

[aliyid]

The below, amazingly, wasn't given as a pen for Brentford today. What's the logic of that then? That Turner didn't have the intent to kick Wissa but was looking at the ball?

Replay the game, replay the game, replay the game

 

[easley91]

It might've been a better football match then. Too much faff in the game.

If you consider a justified upgrade to a red from a yellow "faff" fair enough.

 

[jurgen]

Replay the game, replay the CL final, replay the match vs West Ham when we had the shits, replay every game vs Jose’s chelsea and fergie’s Utd and most importantly give Pedro Mendes and Jan Vertonghen their goals back

 

[Gassin's finest]

If you consider a justified upgrade to a red from a yellow "faff" fair enough.

I'm talking about the wider game of football and you know it.

 

[Tucker]

Scrap VAR. Made the game worse.

No offence mate, but this is a Luddite point of view. It’s not made the game worse, it’s corrected tonnes of things that in days gone by would have been allowed to go down as mistakes.

It’s not VAR that is the problem, it’s the people using it.