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mr ashley

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He didn’t drop his head when we scored, he looked to the left with an emotionless look on his face. People are being absolutely ludicrous about this. It’s very Rawkish.
No I’m sorry that’s an inaccurate description of what happened.
he does turn towards pep with at least a wince of frustration. To say his face remains emotionless is false.

What we can’t tell is what he is actually feeling at that point. I’d suggest he is just as likely looking at pep as if to say “ooh conceding like that has to hurt” rather than the knee jerk RAWK reaction of “he’s a city fan”

it doesn’t mean he’s a cheat or biased, but it certainly doesn’t look good. When you add it to the body language in the other clip of him reffing Liverpool then you can see why doubts are cast.

is it drastically different to Mike dean celebrating playing advantage for dembele v Villa? Probably not

I’m not sure it needs such extreme reactions on either side of the argument tbh. Not everyone questioning it is being ludicrous.
 
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Tucker

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No I’m sorry that’s an inaccurate description of what happened.
he does turn towards pep with at least a wince of frustration. To say his face remains emotionless is false.
He really doesn’t. It’s a split second in slow motion and people are making a mountain out of a molehill.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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I guess this needs bumping.

On a more general note, when this was all announced I said something along the lines of all we were doing is swapping one set of controversies for another, which a fair number of people disagreed with. I stand by that. I would quite happily get rid of it.
 

UncleBuck

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I guess this needs bumping.

On a more general note, when this was all announced I said something along the lines of all we were doing is swapping one set of controversies for another, which a fair number of people disagreed with. I stand by that. I would quite happily get rid of it.
I think it’s definitely got it’s plus points but it’s the inconsistency of how it’s used and some of the conclusions drawn which just baffles everyone, especially when an official is seeing what we are!
 

Serpico

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I think it’s definitely got it’s plus points but it’s the inconsistency of how it’s used and some of the conclusions drawn which just baffles everyone, especially when an official is seeing what we are!
They should be consistent on the coloured lines used to identify attacker and defender.
 

sundanceyid10

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It’s the amount of time they take to decide sometimes that I hate, it’s not the NFL. It completely wrecks the flow of a game when everything stops for 6 minutes sometimes. That hand ball against West Ham the other night, how many times do you have to replay it to make a decision.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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The main issue here is that even with VAR they’re still making some shocking decisions in which case why have it ??‍♂️ for offside I like it as fair is fair on that one and for off the ball stuff that the ref might have missed but for some other stuff it just takes ages and then they get the wrong decision anyways.
 

theShiznit

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I believe Michael Oliver became only the second ref since the one that looks like death in the Bill and Ted film stuck with his (poor) decision to allow a Brighton goal after PEH was fouled in our game a couple of seasons ago.

TBH I'm not sure why VAR felt that wasn't a penalty (yesterday) but it would take an ego like Oliver's to be the first in two years to say I know best.

I think the whole ref found to the monitor thing is an ego protection scheme and should be scrapped.
Tell them they're wrong and overturn the decision.
The cricket and rugby umpires can deal with it without having to look for themselves.
 
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neilp

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I’m sure someone will come along with a full explanation but there is a sensor in the ball to determine moment it is kicked, and about 20 data points on all players constantly monitored to determine where they are on the pitch.
 

Beni

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Don’t mind VAR personally. Got the decisions right yesterday, and I’d rather lose or win with right decisions being made than not and I don’t trust the split decisions Refs and linesmen make without it.
On another day if there was no VAR and left to the lineman, we possibly would have had Kanes and Richarlisons goals flagged up as offside and drew 1-1 as linesmen are instructed to, if in doubt keep the flag down. With no VAR yesterday they may have flagged Kanes.
 
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