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Very stupid doing/saying what he did.
Agree, as was those Spurs fans singing 'we hate f**king millwall' just as some of their lads are walking past and got lumped for their trouble.
Very stupid doing/saying what he did.
Such a bizarre story though this one, right? Must be more to it, surely?!
Why? Because it's Spurs so people don't want to believe it? If this was Chelsea I doubt anyone would question it. Stuff like this happens all the time unfortunately.
Nothing to do with intelligence.
Nothing to do with income either.
All to do with the working environment and what you can get away with, what's regarded as normal and acceptable behaviour both in the workplace and in your peer group. You can shout and swear and wolf whistle etc on a lot of building sites - you can't in an office. I should know, I worked on three building sites in two years and also worked for a contractor for Network Rail doing signal box work and it was the same everywhere. Shouting, swearing, being basically a "lout" is par for the course in lots of manual industries. Not in offices.
At least two thirds of my mates are blokes like that. They're just not ****s like these West Ham dickheads were. The mate who invited them I've known for over 15 years, is a from a traveller family and works on major industrial jobs at Heathrow. His dad "deals in cars" if you know what I mean. I don't live in a bubble (and I'm sure as hell not middle class ).
I never said that there were no football hooligans who worked in offices. Half the Chelsea scum army are bankers, solicitors and traders in the City. But it's a small group and mostly confined to that one club.
Basically you've got pretty much everything I said wrong. No worries.
I went on a night out with a few mates some months ago, and the guy who organised it decided he'd invite three of his mates from work. They were all West Ham, and were just complete meathead scumbags. Constantly shouting and swearing, bellowing offensive bollocks out to no-one in particular. It was all I could do to ignore them and talk to a couple of my mates, most of the conversation being about why the hell did Nick invite these total pricks along.
We were walking from one pub to another, and one of these pricks just randomly started shouting at some bloke across the street. Just shouting "Oi you ****, what are you looking at? You want some you ****?" etc. This other guy had no idea what was going on and quickly walked off, at which point the shouty prick turned to his two giggling twat mates and laughed saying "Made him shit himself!" like he'd just won a fucking Olympic medal or something. The rest of the walk was filled with them shouting random slogans and football chants out on the way.
I probably should've said something but I didn't feel it was my place since these guys were invited by my mate (who strangely is one of the nicest guys in the world and I have no idea how he could be mates with these people), and frankly I didn't want them to kick off at me which it looked like they could do to anyone at any time.
Once we got to the next pub I could only give it another 20 minutes before I just said I had to go, pretended I had a call from the wife, and a couple of other guys came with me knowing full well why I was leaving. We actually stayed out and went somewhere completely different but we just couldn't stand being around dickheads like that any more.
The fact that they were West Ham obviously didn't do them any favours in life, but these three were genuinely just total dickheads, whose idea of a good night out was to shout as loudly and aggressively as possible at all times and randomly offer people out in the street for no reason. Ironically I spoke to the mate who invited them the next day and politely told him I wouldn't be coming out with those guys again, and he said that not long after we'd left all three of them had drunk themselves into a stupor after about 5 pints and had to go home at bloody 9:30pm when one of them was really ill. So it turns out they were lightweights as well.
The worst thing? These guys were aged 26, 38 and I think the oldest was 42. And yet their Saturday night plan was to act like teenagers. It just shows that age means nothing when you're a total twat.
It just shows there really is a huge amount of total dickheads out there, and lots of them follow football. There's a lot of these sort of people in manual industries - builders/sparky's/plumbers etc - no offence to anyone on here in those professions but you don't get these sorts of blokes working in an office. They can act like boorish pricks with their mates all day at work in these industries so they see nothing wrong with doing it in public too.
you don't get these sorts of blokes working in an office.
I never said that there were no football hooligans who worked in offices
Err..
Maybe they were calling him a Chelsea ****?In the same way the thug knew who he was attacking? This is just headlines with no substnces. Where's the bit that actually backs up the fact that the thug thought he was Chelsea?
Exactly, theres obviously a very good reason that the police suspect that the attacker mistook him for a Chelsea fan, even though its not been reported on.Maybe they were calling him a Chelsea ****?
I do t mean that as In he was asking for it. I meant it in response to why they victim knew it was a Spurs fan. If the Spurs fan hitting him is calling him a Chelsea scumbag whilst rearranging his face. It's clear it isn't going to be a Chelsea fan. Either that or he IS a Chelsea fan who didn't want anyone to know he worked for Spurs.Exactly, theres obviously a very good reason they thought he was a Chelsea fan, even though thats not been reported on.
Yeah I got your point originally, although my reply was badly worded and made fuck all sense lol.I do t mean that as In he was asking for it. I meant it in response to why they victim knew it was a Spurs fan. If the Spurs fan hitting him is calling him a Chelsea scumbag whilst rearranging his face. It's clear it isn't going to be a Chelsea fan. Either that or he IS a Chelsea fan who didn't want anyone to know he worked for Spurs.
The sort of person that whacks a stranger at a football match, is the same sort of bloke who'll whack a stranger in a nightclub for looking at him funny, and the same sort of bloke who'll pull a stranger out of his car and whack him for cutting him up at a junction.
IMO its society's problem, not football's.
I have no doubt if other sports had the following that football does, they'd suffer the same problem.
Exactly, football is just the vehicle that they're using, it's an unfortunate coincidence that it's the perfect vehicle for them, tailor made in fact.Agree that hooligans and yobs would still be hooligans if football didn't exist, because they're basically ***** and in that sense it is society's problem.
However, it's no surprise that they gravitate towards football. Besides the sheer popularity of the sport, the culture is very much geared towards tribalism and loutish and immature behaviour. If you ever sit back and think about all the chants etc it's basically an extension of school and 30,000 people chanting "my Dad's better than your Dad". Randomly pointing at people and calling them a **** etc. .
Of course 95% of us can see it for the banter and humour it is, but a knuckle dragging moron will be far more likely to embrace it and take it to the next level than the culture of other sports.
I said you don't get boorish loudmouths who spend their day shouting and swearing.
Stripping?Used to work in London pubs for quite a while in my youth. It was always considered that the Friday night office crowds were the ones had to be watched closest. Almost invariably when shit went down it was the suited & booted office boys giving it large
Stripping?
Used to work in London pubs for quite a while in my youth. It was always considered that the Friday night office crowds were the ones had to be watched closest. Almost invariably when shit went down it was the suited & booted office boys giving it large