Match Threads Spurs Vs Man United

[mendesstormer]

We went 4-2-3-1 when Tanganga came on. That’s not positive? Really?

or did you just see a defender come on for an attacker?

I don't think so. We reverted to 5 at the back, having briefly switched to 4 when Danjuma came on.

 

[bigfrooj]

Did you see a positive, more attacking change? Or even that we kept up the high pressure and intensity? Or did you see us fall back after the equalizer?

Did Tanganga coming in change any of that? With Davies, Lenglet, Dier, Romero and Tanganga on the pitch at the same time: which one of those do you claim did not play in the back line?

The formation means nothing if all our players are stuck in your own half, and the pressing not even starting before just outside our own box.

Dier pushed up when we went forward and fell back when defending. Manchester were also playing - they pushed on and we responded. We have dropped deep so many times and lost late goals this season but it looked nothing like that last night. That was going toe to toe not rope-a-dope.

 

[mpickard2087]

The double wingback sub was probably the killer in hindsight, and I'd say that we equalised despite those changes. Switching the play to them in acres of space, particularly Perisic, was where our main joy and thrust of the team was coming from. I barely noticed Davies when he came on, Kulu went to RWB and was really hit and miss, again, and we lost that superiority and outball on the flanks and had limited ourselves.

The Tanganga sub was needed, so no one should complain about that. In the preceding couple of minutes Utd had worked the ball down our disorganised right hand side three or four times. Kulu wasn't getting back in, Romero was unsure whether it was his job, and it looked a mess. We needed to shore up the right flank, and it was rectified quickly. Taking Son off and not Kane, who had a knock/couldn't run anymore, left us with 10 men though and no outball so we were always going to be on the backfoot after that.

Mason will be learning in this aspect more than any other. Some I'd quibble with, some I thought he decisively reacted. About to be expected from a rookie.

 

[jpascavitz]

The double wingback sub was probably the killer in hindsight, and I'd say that we equalised despite those changes. Switching the play to them in acres of space, particularly Perisic, was where our main joy and thrust of the team was coming from. I barely noticed Davies when he came on, Kulu went to RWB and was really hit and miss, again, and we lost that superiority and outball on the flanks and had limited ourselves.

The Tanganga sub was needed, so no one should complain about that. In the preceding couple of minutes Utd had worked the ball down our disorganised right hand side three or four times. Kulu wasn't getting back in, Romero was unsure whether it was his job, and it looked a mess. We needed to shore up the right flank, and it was rectified quickly. Taking Son off and not Kane, who had a knock/couldn't run anymore, left us with 10 men though and no outball so we were always going to be on the backfoot after that.

Mason will be learning in this aspect more than any other. Some I'd quibble with, some I thought he decisively reacted. About to be expected from a rookie.

Yeah saw a lot of critics on Twitter saying throughout the game to ditch the wingbacks but as you said I thought we found some joy and relief out there throughout the match. I also personally thought our midfield 2, despite working hard, were a bit overrun and often United found their joy in space behind them -- not sure if that's a our defenders should be tigheter or midfielders need to drop a bit deeper issue.

I think with Liverpool's 3 man midfield I'd expect us to potentially try and match that? Seems a good rotation time for Tanganga/Davies to come in RB/LB for 4 atb but we shall see!

 

[Cinemattis]

Dier pushed up when we went forward and fell back when defending. Manchester were also playing - they pushed on and we responded. We have dropped deep so many times and lost late goals this season but it looked nothing like that last night. That was going toe to toe not rope-a-dope.

That you don’t want to answer my question if you think we stayed on the front foot and kept attacking after the equaliser is ok.

We obviously see football differently; in my view we gave away the initiative on 2-2. Which is a recurring theme for many, many years now: we don’t have the killer instinct of a team that just finishes the opponent when the chance is there to do so.

But I’m happy to agree to disagree, mate.

 

[jpascavitz]

Rough tweet to take after a point was a positive for us hahaha

 

[Japhet]

Yeah saw a lot of critics on Twitter saying throughout the game to ditch the wingbacks but as you said I thought we found some joy and relief out there throughout the match. I also personally thought our midfield 2, despite working hard, were a bit overrun and often United found their joy in space behind them -- not sure if that's a our defenders should be tigheter or midfielders need to drop a bit deeper issue.

I think with Liverpool's 3 man midfield I'd expect us to potentially try and match that? Seems a good rotation time for Tanganga/Davies to come in RB/LB for 4 atb but we shall see!

Our midfield were in for a bit of a hiding with one of Casemiero, Eriksen or Fernandez always free. They were overrun, but when has our midfield pivot not been this season?

 

[slartibartfast]

I think the fans deserve a mention. Yes they booed a bit at ht but if we show fight and attack like we actually want to win then the crowd will get behind the team. And they did. And it was loud on tv.

 

[slartibartfast]

Our midfield were in for a bit of a hiding with one of Casemiero, Eriksen or Fernandez always free. They were overrun, but when has our midfield pivot not been this season?

I think thats why Hojbjerg may have been so poor. They're bloody knackered running around like headless chickens.

 

[Japhet]

I think thats why Hojbjerg may have been so poor. They're bloody knackered running around like headless chickens.

Trying to put out fires covering 2 WBs who can't defend and a CCB who can handle being run at or any sort of 1v1. Why the fuck we persist with a midfield pivot is just utterly baffling imo.

 

[Timberwolf]

Mason will be learning in this aspect more than any other. Some I'd quibble with, some I thought he decisively reacted. About to be expected from a rookie.

Wasn't perfect but the fact he actually made specific changes to remedy, or attempt to remedy, issues he saw on the pitch already puts him ahead of a lot of established coaches in that area IMO.

Seen so many top level managers both at Spurs and elsewhere over the years that seem to only make pre-programmed subs and are incapable of or unwilling to adapt to what's actually happening in the game in front of them.

 

[VoteMe4Prez]

Wasn't perfect but the fact he actually made specific changes to remedy, or attempt to remedy, issues he saw on the pitch already puts him ahead of a lot of established coaches in that area IMO.

Seen so many top level managers both at Spurs and elsewhere over the years that seem to only make pre-programmed subs and are incapable of or unwilling to adapt to what's actually happening in the game in front of them.

It's been so long

 

[Japhet]

The double wingback sub was probably the killer in hindsight, and I'd say that we equalised despite those changes. Switching the play to them in acres of space, particularly Perisic, was where our main joy and thrust of the team was coming from. I barely noticed Davies when he came on, Kulu went to RWB and was really hit and miss, again, and we lost that superiority and outball on the flanks and had limited ourselves.

The Tanganga sub was needed, so no one should complain about that. In the preceding couple of minutes Utd had worked the ball down our disorganised right hand side three or four times. Kulu wasn't getting back in, Romero was unsure whether it was his job, and it looked a mess. We needed to shore up the right flank, and it was rectified quickly. Taking Son off and not Kane, who had a knock/couldn't run anymore, left us with 10 men though and no outball so we were always going to be on the backfoot after that.

Mason will be learning in this aspect more than any other. Some I'd quibble with, some I thought he decisively reacted. About to be expected from a rookie.

The 'killer' in my opinion was Lindelhof not getting a red card for an obvious second bookable offence. We were all over them by that time and could have gone on to bag all 3 points.

 

[markt]

This second half has been great so far. Huge improvement. Son and Kulu stepped up from poor first half and Bissouma and Maddison are class

Still buzzing for Sarr. So excited to see his development

 

[yido_number1]

This second half has been great so far. Huge improvement. Son and Kulu stepped up from poor first half and Bissouma and Maddison are class

Still buzzing for Sarr. So excited to see his development

Just need the second goal

 

[Johnny J]

Epic improvement this half. Despite the fucking ref.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Udogie shouldn’t let his son push him in the back like that

 

[markt]

Just need the second goal

Exactly that. Come close and pressured them. Just need to be clinical.

It was as salty Keane was saying except it's us that needs to be clinical, not that red team from the past

 

[Johnny J]

DALOT INCOMING

 

[yido_number1]

Sarr has been amazing imagine wanting hojbjerg instead