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lillywhites61

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Think Rodgers is a good manager, but someone we should gamble on? I'm not sure.

Swanseas great football stems from Martinez back when he got them promoted to the Championship and then nearly the Premiership. Yes, Rodgers has taken that on and got them promoted and holding their own in the premiership, but is this just a one off where we always see 1 promoted team do well in their 1st season in the premiership?

I think he should be on the shortlist to replace Redknapp, thats if Redknapp does in fact leave, but my order of preference would be:-

1. Mourinho
2. Capello
3. Ancelloti
4. Guardiola
5. Rodgers
6. Klopp
7. Conte

There has to be some realism in there, the only ones out of your choices highlighted we stand a chance of getting are Capello and Rodgers and to be honest I would rather Rodgers right now, Capello would drop us in a heart beat for another big european club and he is not the future just another stop gap, we need someone who can build and stay with us for a long time.

As for Martinez I actually think he likes to play good football but he didn't get them up? And Rodgers did, he also has them playing great passing fluid football even having more possession in games he has no right to. Martinez has not progressed, has spent and hasn't done well with what he has bought.
 

mattyspurs

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I don't know if it still current either, but at one point in the season, Rodgers Swansea team had the 6th best passing stats in Europe!!
 

BringBack_leGin

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Would it be silly to want Rodgers because he'd probably help the development of Caulker into becoming our first choice centre back owing to their pre existing relationship? Not the only reason I want Rodgers but I think the potential of him helping create a world class centre back of the next decade is something that works in his favour.
 

Mullers

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I think there's a good case for Capello, wouldn't be my preference because I want a team-builder, someone for the long-haul, and also because I think Capello's biggest weakness is/was his failure to come to terms with the Engl;ish footballing culture (we may argue it should be different, but it is the way it is; you could also argue however that he has a better chance of imposing his philosophy at club level than at international).

For the other three I'd be very interested to hear your reasoning?

Well in my first post I said someone experienced and preferably better than Redknapp, I think that all these managers fit the bill. Lippi has never managed outside Italy but there is no doubt he is one of the best available managers around today. Ranieri already has experience of premiership football I thought he did a good job at Chelsea. Rijkaard is currently the manager of Saudi Arabia and I think would jump at the chance, former coach of Holland and Barca, much less of a gamble than Rodgers surely.
 

Beni

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There has to be some realism in there, the only ones out of your choices highlighted we stand a chance of getting are Capello and Rodgers and to be honest I would rather Rodgers right now, Capello would drop us in a heart beat for another big european club and he is not the future just another stop gap, we need someone who can build and stay with us for a long time.

As for Martinez I actually think he likes to play good football but he didn't get them up? And Rodgers did, he also has them playing great passing fluid football even having more possession in games he has no right to. Martinez has not progressed, has spent and hasn't done well with what he has bought.

Think the managers I have shortlisted are realistic.
1. Mourinho, loves London wants to return to London and has always liked Tottenham, and been very complimentry towards us.

3. Ancelotti stated he wanted to remain in London in the premiership, and there was a story a while back stating he would be interested in managing Tottenham.

4. Guordiola, maybe one of the managers that we couldn't attract, but we are a big club now thats now challenging for a league thats arguably the best in the world, and should be in the champions league.

6 and 7 Klopp/Conte would think they would love to jump to a bigger challenge of managing a club in a better league with more resources available to them.

Like I stated Rodgers got them promoted, but the foundations of the way Swansea are playing were laid by Martinez, and he has hardly spent loads of money.
 

BringBack_leGin

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I think Levy should subtly kidnap all the great football brains and go all Dr Frankenstein to create a 'General Levy's Monster' if you will. Can different parts of the brain be moulded together to create a super brain? I don't see why not quite frankly. We could have the vision and philosophy of Cruyff, the ruthlessness and authority of Ferguson, the ability to drill a team into disciplined soldiers of Mourinho, the ability to inspire of Clough, the loveability of Keegan and the charm and wit of Martin Jol.

Oh, and if he wants to leave us for another club, somewhere Levy will have inserted the addiction issues of Maradona, but it will be suppressed and only activated by hearing a keyword known only to Levy.
 

lillywhites61

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Think the managers I have shortlisted are realistic.
1. Mourinho, loves London wants to return to London and has always liked Tottenham, and been very complimentry towards us.

3. Ancelotti stated he wanted to remain in London in the premiership, and there was a story a while back stating he would be interested in managing Tottenham.

4. Guordiola, maybe one of the managers that we couldn't attract, but we are a big club now thats now challenging for a league thats arguably the best in the world, and should be in the champions league.

6 and 7 Klopp/Conte would think they would love to jump to a bigger challenge of managing a club in a better league with more resources available to them.

Like I stated Rodgers got them promoted, but the foundations of the way Swansea are playing were laid by Martinez, and he has hardly spent loads of money.

You honestly think JM would come to us with our limited spending on wages, ancelotti is now at a new man city and commited so can't see that happening,
Klopp is at a massive club that is about to win the league in two successive seasons and the German league is a very good league and not far off ours now I would say, conte possibly I can see your point.

Martinez may have laid foundations but Rodgers was a good fit to take on the job as his philosophy was similar to Martinez except he has succeeded in doing what Martinez couldn't, I'm not saying he has spent loads just that he hasnt bought well, let's face it they don't have anyone to put the ball in the net?
 

Beni

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You honestly think JM would come to us with our limited spending on wages, ancelotti is now at a new man city and commited so can't see that happening,
Klopp is at a massive club that is about to win the league in two successive seasons and the German league is a very good league and not far off ours now I would say, conte possibly I can see your point.

Martinez may have laid foundations but Rodgers was a good fit to take on the job as his philosophy was similar to Martinez except he has succeeded in doing what Martinez couldn't, I'm not saying he has spent loads just that he hasnt bought well, let's face it they don't have anyone to put the ball in the net?

Yes I do.
 

Luka Van der Bale

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I think Levy should subtly kidnap all the great football brains and go all Dr Frankenstein to create a 'General Levy's Monster' if you will. Can different parts of the brain be moulded together to create a super brain? I don't see why not quite frankly. We could have the vision and philosophy of Cruyff, the ruthlessness and authority of Ferguson, the ability to drill a team into disciplined soldiers of Mourinho, the ability to inspire of Clough, the loveability of Keegan and the charm and wit of Martin Jol.

Oh, and if he wants to leave us for another club, somewhere Levy will have inserted the addiction issues of Maradona, but it will be suppressed and only activated by hearing a keyword known only to Levy.
Every living non Newcastle fan I have ever spoken to despises the very essence of Kevin Keegan.
 

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Think the managers I have shortlisted are realistic.
1. Mourinho, loves London wants to return to London and has always liked Tottenham, and been very complimentry towards us.

3. Ancelotti stated he wanted to remain in London in the premiership, and there was a story a while back stating he would be interested in managing Tottenham.

4. Guordiola, maybe one of the managers that we couldn't attract, but we are a big club now thats now challenging for a league thats arguably the best in the world, and should be in the champions league.

6 and 7 Klopp/Conte would think they would love to jump to a bigger challenge of managing a club in a better league with more resources available to them.

Like I stated Rodgers got them promoted, but the foundations of the way Swansea are playing were laid by Martinez, and he has hardly spent loads of money.

I think you should take Ancelotti off the list. Unless he gets fired he isn't going to be leaving PSG so soon.
 

riversmonkey

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Rodgers has openly stated that he is still developing as a manager, therefore however ambitious he is, I hardly think he will risk jumping over to a bigger club just yet. Both him, and Paul Lambert at Norwich should only be judged after their second seasons in the Premier League, though I rate both as manager's it will be interesting to see how they do next season.
 

tobi

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Klopp isn't available and we don't have bigger resources than Juve.
 

BillyWhizz

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Rodgers has openly stated that he is still developing as a manager, therefore however ambitious he is, I hardly think he will risk jumping over to a bigger club just yet. Both him, and Paul Lambert at Norwich should only be judged after their second seasons in the Premier League, though I rate both as manager's it will be interesting to see how they do next season.

This.

Ideally Harry would see out his contract until end of next season and then we'd know better if one of these two are more likely to be the real deal or not.
 

ItsBoris

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I did deliberately state "top players". Do you think Hazard, for instance, has a f*cking clue who Brendan Rogers is? Not that I think we'll get him anyway, but were we to get someone like Mourinho it may well make the difference.

I've also further clarified myself later but people seem to be ignoring that. I'm not suggesting for a minute that I think he's a bad manager, and actually I think he'd be very well suited to a club of our means, but people should be realistic about the consequent likelihood of getting in a series of £20m players.

In fact, hiring him would be, in my opinion, a fairly stark statement about how Levy intended on running the club. Which, and to make this abundantly clear and avoid being told by some random bloke on a forum that my opinions are 'junk', I would support - I think it's a considerably more sustainable model than the aggressive, all out spending seen by Leeds and Chelsea (pre-Roman).

We can't pick a manager based on whether Eden Hazard knows who he is though. He probably didn't know much about HR before they met, but was impressed with him when they did. I'm sure Rodgers methods and philosophy are attractive to a lot of players. Tbh if we pick the best man for the job and some young player doesn't like it they can fuck off imo.

Mourinho would make a difference in attracting players but that is because he is one of the best managers of all time imo. That's the reason we want him, not because of who he can bring to the club.
 

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I personally don't see it being a case of if we want Rodgers he will come. He has it good over at Swansea and he's very young, would he really want to take on a job like Spurs after one season in the prem, risking his reputation in the process? Also I remember reading that he regrets moving to Reading from Watford after such a short time, so certainly not black and white as some on here seem to think.

As for wanting him, I dont know. I mean he seems like a quality manager with the right philosophy, but as others have said, he represents a gamble given his limited premiership experience. Definitely one for the shortlist though.

In terms of some other managers being discussed:

Mourinho: Sadly not a chance of that happening, as most have pointed out.

Capello: Too old to be a long-term option (maybe we could get him in as a stop-gap while we monitor Rodgers' progress?) but can't doubt his cv.

Moyes: Not for me, maybe if he promised not to make us play like Everton.

Ancelotti: Would like this guy (as would most I assume), but slim chance - maybe if PSG don't win the league they'll sack him? (currently joint-top).

Benitez: Haven't really seen him discussed on here but he's one I'm coming round to the idea of (after initially scoffing at the idea when my mate suggested him). He's done some great things and he's young enough (50?) to build a legacy somewhere. He's made mistakes sure but you'd suspect that he would have learnt from those, and he might be a big enough name to keep our top players around and attract some new ones. Also there's no chance of our players burning out halfway through the season, given his fondness for rotating :wink:
 

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No way on earth would he even have to think twice if Tottenham offered him the job.

I'm inclined to agree. I've just watched his interview on Sky News and it definitely sounded like a "yes" to me.

"Talk of the link is disrespectful to Harry"

"I've worked with players at the highest level before at Chelsea and am very comfortable at that level and have always said that I would like to work with players of that level again"

He added in the usual "Happy where I am now" rider, but it definitely sounded like he was saying "come get me" to me.
 

ShayLaB

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The Belfast Telegraph (the main NI evening paper) have had a few headlines linking him with Spurs. No idea if it is speculation or from contacts.
 

Misfit

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Take Joe Allen too please. Ready made-replacement for when Luka throws his final, all-ecompasing public shit-fit to land his dream to move to whichever clubs throws most money at him.
 
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