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Krafty

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Once Upon a time, many many years ago, when MPs paid for their houses out of their own money, England was managed by a competent Englishman and there was no such thing as the x-factor, Spurs started a season with a hint of competency.

Okay, it might not be as long ago as that, but it feels like it. The last two starts have been utterly pathetic, and resulted in two managers getting the sack. Two managers who then went on to Real Madrid and Ajax. This shows how important a good start is.

I’m not saying Harry Redknapp will get sacked if we start badly, on the contrary I think Levy would have to give him time, but our entire campaign, and arguably the next two or three seasons, depend on a good start.

Our form after the first eight games (cannot recall how many points we had then) was good enough to be knocking around the fifth and sixth spots. Even a half decent start to the season would have seen us be back in Europe for sure. If our aspirations are to get near the top 4 then we cannot afford to start slow. The pressure a bad start puts us under is too much.

Is it a coincidence that we have reached the Carling Cup final twice, after such disastrous starts? To my mind, no. With any idea of finishing high in the league dashed, the carling cup becomes are main focus and route back into Europe. It can serve as a good way to find some form, but we should be better than that. It has been fantastic to be at Wembley and win silverware, but I would sacrifice that to get near the top 4, never mind finish in a Champions League position.

Forced to play strong teams as we search for any kind of victory, we cannot play any of our up and coming youngsters. Now we are dropped in to round 2 for the first time in four years it would be great to see Rose, Parratt, Bostock, Obika, Dervitte, Mason, et al get some game time. With the continental structure in the bin, I get a far better sense of long term planning and security. Far more players went on loan in January than the last two seasons, and I don’t find this surprising. Being in a position to give these youngsters some first team experience is vital and a sign that we are progressing.

Harry has talked about his willingness to wait until the end of the window to make deals. If we have a couple wins in august then its easy, if we haven’t won a game, it becomes a massive risk. The last thing we want are some panic buys, but seeing us at the top of the table, or top four, suddenly shows that we are not all talk, and could be the sign that convinces that top player to sign. And of course a good start breeds confidence into the team. Players that are not playing are less likely to complain and be patient for their chance if the team is winning.

The start to this season, more than any other, is critical. The signs are there that we can do it. As Charlie said, our performances against the top teams have been very good. Unfortunately we lost to the bottom 12 teams. Rectify that, and who knows what the season might have in store for us.

I would never tire hearing Harry say ‘After eight games we had 24 points……’
 

BringBack_leGin

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our last 3 starts have been pathetic, it's just that we recovered very well from the 06/07 one when Berbatov and Keane clicked.

Last good start (only good start I can really remember other than under Hoddle in 01/02) was 05/06. We got knocked out of both cups at the first hurdle that season, had no europe, and almost got 4th.
 

JimmyG2

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Dec 7, 2006
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We will have more chance of a good start if we more or less keep the current squad.
The squad finished the season well with a settled team, especially the defence and we don't want another season of transition with a 5 or 6 new players who take until Xmas to integrate.
Don't bet on Harry not getting the sack if we don't start well. Levy will argue that strong decisive action worked last time and might well work again.
There's money at stake here.
 

Midostouch

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I agree with your sentiments but to say that our manager went off to Real as though he was actually a great manager, but we just didn't appreciate him, is wide of the mark. He's managed to help Real become a mediocre side. He took a good Spurs side and make them mediocre too. IMO he tore the heart out of the club and what Harry has managed to do is restore it.

Fingers crossed for a great start - after a relatively sober close season and a few positive additions to a good squad. We had a top January window - more of the same please (except no more returns of former players thankyou).
 

spurs_viola

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I agree with your sentiments but to say that our manager went off to Real as though he was actually a great manager, but we just didn't appreciate him, is wide of the mark. He's managed to help Real become a mediocre side. He took a good Spurs side and make them mediocre too. IMO he tore the heart out of the club and what Harry has managed to do is restore it.

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How fickle. Ramos was a top manager, held in highest regard throughout Europe for his successes with Sevilla FC before Spurs, and led the increasingly troubled Real Madrid from 5th to comfortable 2nd place after Spurs. Real Madrid won 16 out of 17 games in a row with him, losing only to Barca in his very first game. He and his team did disappoint against Liverpool and Barca again, after which there was absolutely nothing for the team to play for and everyone knew Ramos would not be kept at Real Madrid under the new President. But to imply he is a poor manager is just stupidly narrowminded.
 

spud

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Once Upon a time, many many years ago, when MPs paid for their houses out of their own money, England was managed by a competent Englishman........
I'd go back to that in a heartbeat. Or even a less than competent englishman (but not Graham Taylor). I haven't been able to generate any enthusiam for our national team since the FA went for a foreign manager. If we won the World Cup or Euros, it would feel like cheating.

It has been fantastic to be at Wembley and win silverware, but I would sacrifice that to get near the top 4, never mind finish in a Champions League position.
I wouldn't. The point of entering competitions is surely to win them. What's the point of aspiring only to a top six league position? We are a big enough, and rich enough, and glamorous enough club to assemble a squad that can challenge on all fronts. We should have the objective of winning the league, not just clawing at the arse of the so-called 'big four'.

The start to this season, more than any other, is critical. The signs are there that we can do it.
Agreed on both points.

Nice article sir!
 

JoeT

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"to wait until the end of the window to make deals" is a sure way to see us AGAIN again have a poor start to the season....why can't Redknapp - and the person who is probably most behind this statement, Mr. Levy - see this?
Are we again going to hold out until the clock strikes midnight on the last day so that we can squeeze out those last few hundred pounds on deals, or are we going to get on with the job of selling those players whom management have been identified as being not quite good enough, and going after those two or three that we really want?
Of course we have to show some business acumen, but this is a FOOTBALL CLUB first Mr Levy, not some smartass played business poker game. BUILD THE TEAM first; do a good job at this and all other good things should follow.
 

onthetwo

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May 19, 2006
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while the 'wait until the end of the window to get a good price' strategy sounds like it makes sense, don't forget that the sought after players (Barry as a good example) will move earlier than the more medicore type that wont make a significant difference to our starting eleven. So better prices at the end of the window, perhaps, but not the better players that we require.
 

TheSteve

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It would be nice, for a change, to actually start the season with a home game for once. Rather than having to travel to notoriously difficult places (for us), like Bolton, Sunderland, Boro etc, it would be good to start at home and pick up 3 points and hit the ground running and get the confidence up early on.
 

tommo84

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Aug 15, 2005
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our last 3 starts have been pathetic, it's just that we recovered very well from the 06/07 one when Berbatov and Keane clicked.

Last good start (only good start I can really remember other than under Hoddle in 01/02) was 05/06. We got knocked out of both cups at the first hurdle that season, had no europe, and almost got 4th.

Even in 05/06 we didnt have a great start. We just got a lot of hard games out of the way during a mediocre start whcih allowed us to gather form after the first 10 games.
 
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