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Still the exact same after money spent. We have had different world class managers since Pochettino, costing a fortune in paying all those staff.

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So called good business, has seen us have world class managers costing a fortune, yet we remain the same at 8 th today. Why oh why did we not heed pochetinnos requests to update the team. We have not moved forward at all. We reached second twice and champions league final, yet sacked the second best manager since our greats. We could have used that money to buy class players. Keith burkinshaw was able to show that four brilliant players change the team. Its not good business its dire.
 

JimmyG2

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We didn't fix the roof
while the sun was shining.
False economy obviously.

World-class Football stadiums
don't win football matches.
It's the players stupid.
 

Japhet

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No way we were going to compete in the future with a 36k stadium. Like it or not, that piece of infrastructure was given priority. We hired a couple of shit managers after Poch went a bit weird but have gone big now with Conte. Patience required.
 

Dennism

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The issue was we gave Poch the funds too late. Unfortunately when he did get the money the transfer window was disastrous (Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sessegnon and Clarke). However, I still hope one day he will return.
 

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Are we still paying part of pochettino's salary?
 

beuller

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We certainly do need 4 brilliant players.

Plus replacing Kane, Lloris and Son in the next 3 years or so.

I don't know where the money for all that would come from. It's not going to happen so best not to get worked up, hoping it will. To get anywhere near a league title, we would need to get incredibly lucky with a few of our punts.
 

JimmyG2

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No way we were going to compete in the future with a 36k stadium. Like it or not, that piece of infrastructure was given priority. We hired a couple of shit managers after Poch went a bit weird but have gone big now with Conte. Patience required.
Not sure what you mean by this.
Compete financially?
Even with the Stadium we are not going to compete financially
with the Russian Oligarchs and the oil blood money swilling around.
Build a team and then build a stadium worthy of it.

Oh too late.
 

beuller

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Not sure what you mean by this.
Compete financially?
Even with the Stadium we are not going to compete financially
with the Russian Oligarchs and the oil blood money swilling around.
Build a team and then build a stadium worthy of it.

Oh too late.

Rather depressingly true.
 

jolsnogross

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Poch was the only manager to build that winning mentality that made us truly competitive. Sacking him instead of giving him the keys to the place remains one of the daftest self-inflicted wounds any club has made.

But he didn't win anything, so the story goes. And so a majority of spurs fans went along with it. Went along with obliterating the strategy. Went along with hiring a dinosaur to replace him.

And so here we are, looking again for the formula we so casually threw away.
 

Yid-ol

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So called good business, has seen us have world class managers costing a fortune, yet we remain the same at 8 th today. Why oh why did we not heed pochetinnos requests to update the team. We have not moved forward at all. We reached second twice and champions league final, yet sacked the second best manager since our greats. We could have used that money to buy class players. Keith burkinshaw was able to show that four brilliant players change the team. Its not good business its dire.

Poch was sacked as the results were shit at the end (probably half a season or last half on one season and start of next)

Yes we could/should have backed him more at the time, but we can't go back in time so see little point in could haves/should have done's.

We needed the new stadium or else we would get left further behind other clubs. It does mean we will struggle a little to start with, but with extra revenue it will bring in, hopefully there is funds available sooner than later again (or higher wages).

A couple of managers have not worked out, not all do, and some I didn't want at the club to start with. Conte hasn't been fully backed yet, but if he is I feel he is better suited to lifting this club up more than most others around just now.

Also saying 4 great players would change the team, true but again lots of ifs, if they agreed to come to us, if the club agreed the fee, if they then suited our team.... ECT. We can see from other clubs, players who are world class can go from one club to another and look totally different.
 
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ralvy

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No way we were going to compete in the future with a 36k stadium. Like it or not, that piece of infrastructure was given priority. We hired a couple of shit managers after Poch went a bit weird but have gone big now with Conte. Patience required.

So you're calling Mourinho a shit manager and Conte a big one, even though Mourinho's results during his time with us were, at worst, on par with what Conte has delivered thus far? In fact, both coaches were brought mid season, and Mourinho seemed to have a bigger impact on the team than Conte during circumstances which were quite similar.

I'm very happy we have Conte, but anyone who thinks his results will end up being far superior to what Mourinho managed to deliver is being clearly delusional (unless the board decides to stop being so stupid, and give Conte enough time to get it right, which is what they should have done with Mourinho to begin with).
 

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So called good business, has seen us have world class managers costing a fortune, yet we remain the same at 8 th today. Why oh why did we not heed pochetinnos requests to update the team. We have not moved forward at all. We reached second twice and champions league final, yet sacked the second best manager since our greats. We could have used that money to buy class players. Keith burkinshaw was able to show that four brilliant players change the team. Its not good business its dire.
We will always remain average with Levy.
 

FloridaSpur

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"yet sacked the second best manager since our greats"

I don't understand that sentence?

Nicholson, closely followed by Burkinshaw where does Poch even come close to those two greats?
 

ralvy

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"yet sacked the second best manager since our greats"

I don't understand that sentence?

Nicholson, closely followed by Burkinshaw where does Poch even come close to those two greats?

I don't know, but Pochetino taking us to a CL final in the age of oil money sponsored clubs will remain as one of our greatest achievements for a very long time.

@dontcallme that post was perfectly on topic, so kindly piss off.
 

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Not sure what you mean by this.
Compete financially?
Even with the Stadium we are not going to compete financially
with the Russian Oligarchs and the oil blood money swilling around.
Build a team and then build a stadium worthy of it.

Oh too late.

Chelsea tried that and aren't any closer to breaking ground, now they probably never will. You have to take the opportunity to complete something as big as a stadium rebuild when they come, if you wait around all you're going to do is miss the chance.
 

JimmyG2

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Chelsea tried that and aren't any closer to breaking ground, now they probably never will. You have to take the opportunity to complete something as big as a stadium rebuild when they come, if you wait around all you're going to do is miss the chance.
They're not doing too badly on the football side though are they
stadium or no stadium. (or Liverpool for that matter)
Love the new stadium amazing venue
and over time will generate income which if invested wisely in the team
may bring back the 'Glory, Glory' days.
but I can't help thinking that we got our priorities wrong.
 
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