Stoke Vs Tottenham: Match Thread
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haxman
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spurs_viola
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I think some of the people who defended Pulis and Stoke after the Arsenal game when Ramsay had his leg broken were (rightfully) pissed off at their tactics today when it was our team at the receiving end.
Imo, the Neanderthal tactics of Pulis' Stoke is getting quite ridiculous and downright dangerous for better players from better teams. It was clear his soldiers were targeting the most in-form players like Bale, Modric and Pavlyuchenko from the start today. When a Stoke man gets a yellow card, someone else takes charge in fouling the same player; Higher than necessary, studs open challenges attempted to look like "honest", "committed" tackles; Consistent blocking of the opposing goalkeeper at every set piece; these are the tactics being drilled in training sessions at this anti-football team.
Imo, the Neanderthal tactics of Pulis' Stoke is getting quite ridiculous and downright dangerous for better players from better teams. It was clear his soldiers were targeting the most in-form players like Bale, Modric and Pavlyuchenko from the start today. When a Stoke man gets a yellow card, someone else takes charge in fouling the same player; Higher than necessary, studs open challenges attempted to look like "honest", "committed" tackles; Consistent blocking of the opposing goalkeeper at every set piece; these are the tactics being drilled in training sessions at this anti-football team.
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I think some of the people who defended Pulis and Stoke after the Arsenal game when Ramsay had his leg broken were (rightfully) pissed off at their tactics today when it was our team at the receiving end.
Imo, the Neanderthal tactics of Pulis' Stoke is getting quite ridiculous and downright dangerous for better players from better teams. It was clear his soldiers were targeting the most in-form players like Bale, Modric and Pavlyuchenko from the start today. When a Stoke man gets a yellow card, someone else takes charge in fouling the same player; Higher than necessary, studs open challenges attempted to look like "honest", "committed" tackles; Consistent blocking of the opposing goalkeeper at every set piece; these are the tactics being drilled in training sessions at this anti-football team.
If only they spent as much time and effort developing skill and technique this league would be much better, but that went out of the window when the financial rewards became all encompassing and dropping out of the league became financial ruin.
Edit: That could be totally wrong actually, the quality of football from a lot of teams was probably shit before money was such an issue too, but at least teams tried to attack.
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I defended stoke, and i will again.
I dont think there was any malice in their play, their players are just technically inferior. Several challenges were made that were just mis-timed as we had players with superior pace and skill.
Bale is one of the quickest players in our team so he is always going to get fouled alot. Same with Luka who is a tricky techical player, the fouls on him came after he smartly knicked the ball away. I didn't see any fouls on Pav tbh, or atleast any to make note of.
But im sure Stoke could of gone the whole game with out making one bad tackle, and you still find ways to criticise their 'soliders' :roll:.
I dont think there was any malice in their play, their players are just technically inferior. Several challenges were made that were just mis-timed as we had players with superior pace and skill.
Bale is one of the quickest players in our team so he is always going to get fouled alot. Same with Luka who is a tricky techical player, the fouls on him came after he smartly knicked the ball away. I didn't see any fouls on Pav tbh, or atleast any to make note of.
But im sure Stoke could of gone the whole game with out making one bad tackle, and you still find ways to criticise their 'soliders' :roll:.
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I agree. There was only two "bad" tackles today that I remember and both were badly timed rather than malacious.
he did well today. proper strong forward, muscled off soem challenges. also smart dummy for kranjcar's goal. gonna need him to link up well with crouch again on wednesday if defoe and pav both injured
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Due to the injuries so many of our first teamers have it's really quite impressive to see how their understudies have stepped up to the plate, Dawsong, Bassong, Bale, Kaboul, Nico, Pav., Eidur, Huddlestone et al and, each in turn, have now become our team for what's left of the season. Plus our excellent F.A.cup run!!!!!
I have no doubt that we'll take the 4th spot, as we finally are the FORM team and I'll be more than happy with the FA cup as well.
What amazing headaches 'Arry will have come next season with all our squad fit.
QUE VIVA LOS SPURS
I have no doubt that we'll take the 4th spot, as we finally are the FORM team and I'll be more than happy with the FA cup as well.
What amazing headaches 'Arry will have come next season with all our squad fit.
QUE VIVA LOS SPURS
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Spot on
fucking brilliant away day today. well done spurs, great performance after last year's debacle there, and well done yid army too. pre match drinks and police escort bus and in the ground and escort bus afterwards, all fantastic.
Harry at the end was pumping his fists in our direction, usually i get the impression he's not keen on us! but today he was joining in
Harry at the end was pumping his fists in our direction, usually i get the impression he's not keen on us! but today he was joining in
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I just realized 'Arry's now got the tactics right for those teams that park the bus across their goalmouth and I suspect, up to now, that it's all been a bit of hit and miss. However today, thanks to all the team changes that have come about, and his bravery in taking a risk, for the second time, it all worked out perfectly, even if my heart was in my mouth for most of the second half.
What an absolutely brilliant day for Tottenham Hotspur and all us fans.
QUE VIVA LOS SPURS
What an absolutely brilliant day for Tottenham Hotspur and all us fans.
QUE VIVA LOS SPURS
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For reminiscing about when he called you an android? This is getting crazy. Solidarity neg rep on the way.
i was shown on MotD and on SSN! after final whistle, bouncing around shouting YIDIO i think but i haven't seen it
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lol!
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Persistent "tactical" fouling, especially against the players perceived to be main danger does not have to be malicious. That is not the point.
It is a cynical tactics which may be seen justifiable by certain teams managers, but which is no less negative and despicable to those who love football for reasons other than "getting results ugly".
It all boils down to what you value more in football - and I am sure that even if Stoke injured Bale and Modric, taking them out of the game, you would still defend their "gritty determination and hard-working spirit", because it may be close to your own values.
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Agreed. We have seen more than one team deliberately employ it against us this season - Everton spring to mind, as do Blackburn & Villa. I don't mind hard tackling, but regular, cynical, deliberate little fouls to break up the opposition's play are the currency of people like Whitehead. Every team does it from time to time: I just hate teams that use it as the cornerstone of their play.
100% agree with the post by viola - teams like stoke are a disgrace - they deliberately tried to nobble bale and modric - it was horrible to watch
well done mike dean for stopping their game plan to a large extent
that was only the poor point for me of harry's saturday
he got the match spot on - 10/10
but he should have been backing up mike dean's actions 100%
yes the second booking was harsh - but i'd have sent fuller straight off for his foul on bale - and someone else did a cruncher on him too IIRC
simalrly whitehead could have had a straight red for the first lunge at modric
stoke and other teams are way too fond of their 'lunges'
look at neville the other week on bale - straight red for me
now i know why these aren't given as reds - but i'm talking morally here
if people like neville whitehead fuller etc go to deliberately reduce the effectiveness of flair players by crude fouling, then stick a red on them
ATM - a foul like Neville's on Bale gets no more punishment than taking your top off for scoring or bouncing the ball in a way the ref takes as dissent
since when did a career end because someone was bare chested on a football pitch
we've already lost Bale (on top form) for the best part of two years due to injuries, partly caused by fouls
had we lost him for the season due to Neville that would surely have been one injury too far and ended our dreams of 4th and winning the Cup
yet for all that possible damage Neville would have got a yellow and probably ensured everton got a point out of that game
who gets the result from that? i'm afraid everton - not us
yep it's really marvellous, neville now has 6 cautions or whatever to his nme - that's justice for us
and yes i know Bale got up from that tackle - but he might well not have - neville's tackle (and lots of others like it - aren't laser precision) they go in to chop someone down - and please don't tell me he didn't - how much damage it does is a matter of chance
well done mike dean for stopping their game plan to a large extent
that was only the poor point for me of harry's saturday
he got the match spot on - 10/10
but he should have been backing up mike dean's actions 100%
yes the second booking was harsh - but i'd have sent fuller straight off for his foul on bale - and someone else did a cruncher on him too IIRC
simalrly whitehead could have had a straight red for the first lunge at modric
stoke and other teams are way too fond of their 'lunges'
look at neville the other week on bale - straight red for me
now i know why these aren't given as reds - but i'm talking morally here
if people like neville whitehead fuller etc go to deliberately reduce the effectiveness of flair players by crude fouling, then stick a red on them
ATM - a foul like Neville's on Bale gets no more punishment than taking your top off for scoring or bouncing the ball in a way the ref takes as dissent
since when did a career end because someone was bare chested on a football pitch
we've already lost Bale (on top form) for the best part of two years due to injuries, partly caused by fouls
had we lost him for the season due to Neville that would surely have been one injury too far and ended our dreams of 4th and winning the Cup
yet for all that possible damage Neville would have got a yellow and probably ensured everton got a point out of that game
who gets the result from that? i'm afraid everton - not us
yep it's really marvellous, neville now has 6 cautions or whatever to his nme - that's justice for us
and yes i know Bale got up from that tackle - but he might well not have - neville's tackle (and lots of others like it - aren't laser precision) they go in to chop someone down - and please don't tell me he didn't - how much damage it does is a matter of chance
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