"Strengthening key-positions"

[Monkey boy]

Surely surely surely we have all seen enough to know that Danny Rose, Kyle Naughton, Aaron Lennon, Siggurdsson and Dawson are nowhere near good enough to warrant a place in the squad. If we do no other business in the transfer window then getting rid of these and upgrading them has to be a priority.

Theres others who I would quite happily see the back of Paulinho and Townsend im looking at you but please for the love of god enough enough with the first batch of muppets.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

As few incomings other than the absolutely necessary as possible, and a lot of trimming the fat please.

Keep Lloris, bring in (or promote from within) young able back up.
Keep Walker, bring in (or promote from withing) young able back up.
Vertonghen, Kaboul, Chiriches, Dawson is a good four centre backs to choose from, try to keep all four. If one has to leave, promote Veljkovic.
Rose isn't good enough, ship him out and replace him with a good left back, and have either Fryers or a returning Ekotto as back up.
Keep both Soldado and Adebayor, and if Kane (or any other youth) isn't good enough, bring in young able back up.

Midfield is the only place where any significant surgery is required. On the notion that we'll usually play 5 in any combination from DM to Winger, we currently have too many, and more importantly, too many who aren't good enough. Sandro, Capoue, Livermore, Dembele, Bentaleb, Paulinho, Holtby, Carroll, Eriksen, Sigurdsson, Lennon, Townsend, Lamela, Chadli and potentially Pritchard. That's 3 players per position. I'd get rid of Livermore, Paulinho, Sigurdsson, Lennon and Townsend. I'd like to see either of Carroll or Holtby given a shot, with the other sold (for the sake of fairness to that player as much as anything else), Pritchard promoted to compete with Lamela and Chadli and the only really high quality signing made along with left back being someone who will improve our options together with those three for the wider positions.

If we ended up with a side that looked like:

Lloris-Archer
Walker-Fredericks Kaboul-Dawson Vertonghen-Chiriches GoodLB-Ekotto
Sandro-Capoue Dembele-Bentaleb
Lamela-Pritchard Eriksen-Holtby GoodWF-Chadli
Soldadebayor-YoungNHungry
​

I'd be confident (with the right manager) for the season ahead. We don't need that much done to us, we have a lot of good to very good players, some potentially top class. Our issue is that we have too much deadwood and no leadership, so trim the fat, inject some hunger into the squad with the likes of Archer, Fredericks, Pritchard and a young forward (if they're good enough). The players I've said should be sold, along with the unspent Defoe money, should easily cover the signing of a first team left back, a first team attacker and a good young striker.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

i think we have the inside running on LVG unless Spartak's offer is mega bucks and he chases the retirement option. No way are United going to drop Moyes and anyone who thinks so is smoking serious weed.

Having said that I dont know if LVG and Spurs are a good fit. I really like the Prandelli option and Ancellotti if Madrid blow up enroute to La Liga and the ECC final. Madrid's recriminations can always take your breath away at times. Simeone would be a good bet for a harder tougher side but Atletico will move heaven and earth to keep him and his side looks good enough to pick up at least one major trophy this term. The last thing he'll want is to come to a clusterfuck like Spurs.

I think the manager situation is first and foremost the one that needs sorting. Tim is not up to it at this point in his career. I have a feeling that he may be sitting in a technical director role next season.

As far as players go, I havent seen such gross mismanagement of a squad in my all my years following Spurs and I go back to 1960. That's saying a lot when you think of the shite man management we've had over the years with the likes of Gross, Ramos, Graham and Neill.

I agree with Levy. We need strengthening especially at LB, CB and CF. I think we are fine elsewhere. FFS we havent seen most of these players even reach 70% of their potential yet.

Mate, Spartak is of no concern whatsoever. For the 1 millionth time, LVG has repeatedly stated "I'd like to work in the PL, if I can't find a job in the PL, I'll retire to my home in Portugal". Prandelli is staying as Italy coach & has signed an extension that takes him beyond the Euros.

Quite why you don't think LVG and THFC are a good fit, is beyond me. Our squad is perfect for his favoured 433 formation and our players (and our owner) desperately NEED someone like LVG to come in and tell them who's boss, what the fuck is happening with ALL footballing matters. The guy knows more about success than anyone at our club, so give him total control, let him shape the club from the bottom up, then we may finally see this sleeping giant awake from its slumber.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Good counter points beats1. What I meant about tenure is having a manager for a good 5-10 years much like Manure and Arse that gives you stability and an entrenched style. I wonder if he will last that long. The PL can be a brutal place for new managers and new players.

He's also repeatedly said he'd take a younger coach under his wing & mentor him so as there can be a seamless transition when he's reached the time to call it a day. He supposedly prefers to keep on one member of the current coaching staff, so as to easier integrate with the players. So it's likely it would be Freund that's kept on, and who better for LVG to hand over the reigns to? Freund knows the club inside out & is very much liked by the supporters.

There's plenty of scope for longevity, we just have to hope we can entice him to the club first.

 

[Tottenham_God]

Surely surely surely we have all seen enough to know that Danny Rose, Kyle Naughton, Aaron Lennon, Siggurdsson and Dawson are nowhere near good enough to warrant a place in the squad. If we do no other business in the transfer window then getting rid of these and upgrading them has to be a priority.

Theres others who I would quite happily see the back of Paulinho and Townsend im looking at you but please for the love of god enough enough with the first batch of muppets.

Nearly all of players mentioned are brittish. We need HG players

 

[Chris12]

Medical staff

 

[TheSecretNonFootballer]

Nearly all of players mentioned are brittish. We need HG players

But they're a bit rubbish

 

[Tottenham_God]

But they're a bit rubbish

I agree

 

[Barry Mead]

Surely surely surely we have all seen enough to know that Danny Rose, Kyle Naughton, Aaron Lennon, Siggurdsson and Dawson are nowhere near good enough to warrant a place in the squad. If we do no other business in the transfer window then getting rid of these and upgrading them has to be a priority.

Theres others who I would quite happily see the back of Paulinho and Townsend im looking at you but please for the love of god enough enough with the first batch of muppets.

Not me, I'm more than happy with Dawson and Lennon, would be happy to get rid of Rose and Naughton and Walker and Fryers for that matter. I doubt we'd be that drastic but would hope we get a decent quality first choice lb and rb for next season

At CB Eunice is a worry and there has to be question marks over his ability to get back to his pre injury form but Dawson and Vertonghen (if he can stop sulking and start sharpening up his game as we know he's capable) are a strong pair that would look better with two full backs who can actually defend and Chiriches, though clearly needing time to adjust to the PL, is a decent 4th choice. It really is down to how the club feel about Eunice's ability to get back on track and of course dispensing with the crazy high line tactics

Midfield we need a quality playmaker, we have a few extra bodies and I'd be happy enough offloading Holtby, Dembele and Siggy as well as Livermore to raise funds for elsewhere

With Lamela and Lennon as right wing options and Eriksen as am we have decent options there, just need to get a quality left side attacking player and we seem to be looking at Kono and Thuavin, different players in some ways but both skilful intelligent and look more than capable of linking and interchanging with attacking mates so either would be good

Striker wise for me I worry about Ade's ability to maintain the form and desire he has shown in recent months, personally I'd sell if we could find a willing buyer that Ade would move to. Then I think maybe I'd be more inclined to add just one main striker, Morata would be my choice plus a player like Klaassen who looks to have the ability to play striker but tends to play as a goalscoring am. There's some decent strikers who are capable of playing wider or in a freer second striker role. Griezmann would have been perfect as a player capable of playing lw, am or second striker and scoring a decent tally but looks as if bigger clubs will lure him. Players like Muriel and Lacazette are interesting though and maybe not yet at the point where they are top choices for the bigger clubs

 

[jezz]

Not me, I'm more than happy with Dawson and Lennon, would be happy to get rid of Rose and Naughton and Walker and Fryers for that matter. I doubt we'd be that drastic but would hope we get a decent quality first choice lb and rb for next season

At CB Eunice is a worry and there has to be question marks over his ability to get back to his pre injury form but Dawson and Vertonghen (if he can stop sulking and start sharpening up his game as we know he's capable) are a strong pair that would look better with two full backs who can actually defend and Chiriches, though clearly needing time to adjust to the PL, is a decent 4th choice. It really is down to how the club feel about Eunice's ability to get back on track and of course dispensing with the crazy high line tactics

Midfield we need a quality playmaker, we have a few extra bodies and I'd be happy enough offloading Holtby, Dembele and Siggy as well as Livermore to raise funds for elsewhere

With Lamela and Lennon as right wing options and Eriksen as am we have decent options there, just need to get a quality left side attacking player and we seem to be looking at Kono and Thuavin, different players in some ways but both skilful intelligent and look more than capable of linking and interchanging with attacking mates so either would be good

Striker wise for me I worry about Ade's ability to maintain the form and desire he has shown in recent months, personally I'd sell if we could find a willing buyer that Ade would move to. Then I think maybe I'd be more inclined to add just one main striker, Morata would be my choice plus a player like Klaassen who looks to have the ability to play striker but tends to play as a goalscoring am. There's some decent strikers who are capable of playing wider or in a freer second striker role. Griezmann would have been perfect as a player capable of playing lw, am or second striker and scoring a decent tally but looks as if bigger clubs will lure him. Players like Muriel and Lacazette are interesting though and maybe not yet at the point where they are top choices for the bigger clubs

Lennon honestly?

 

[Barry Mead]

Lennon honestly?

I wouldn't have said it if I didn't mean it. Seriously keep Lennon or Townsend or Chadli? no contest for me. Lennon can play either flank though granted he's better on the right, he gets past players going outside or cutting in, he works hard to support his full backs-and he has far more defensive nous that Walker. Nope there's be plenty of players I'd get rid of before Lennon.

 

[jezz]

I wouldn't have said it if I didn't mean it. Seriously keep Lennon or Townsend or Chadli? no contest for me. Lennon can play either flank though granted he's better on the right, he gets past players going outside or cutting in, he works hard to support his full backs-and he has far more defensive nous that Walker. Nope there's be plenty of players I'd get rid of before Lennon.

Opinions and all that, not my cup of tea.
He would be my first out of the door.

 

[Mullers]

All Lennon can do is run fast, he cant cross, he can't shoot so I don't see him as an option, we need a winger that can cross and provide some goal scoring threat.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I wouldn't have said it if I didn't mean it. Seriously keep Lennon or Townsend or Chadli? no contest for me. Lennon can play either flank though granted he's better on the right, he gets past players going outside or cutting in, he works hard to support his full backs-and he has far more defensive nous that Walker. Nope there's be plenty of players I'd get rid of before Lennon.

For someone supposedly so good at helping his full back, you do realise Lennon is way down the list statistically for interceptions and tackles, compared to other wingers? Running alongside someone is not good defensive play.

 

[guiltyparty]

From the official statement there will be no overhaul, but strengthening in key-positions.

What does this mean to you?

Replacing the people we inevitably sell?

(apologies if someone's said this already, but there are a lot of pages)

 

[Barry Mead]

For someone supposedly so good at helping his full back, you do realise Lennon is way down the list statistically for interceptions and tackles, compared to other wingers? Running alongside someone is not good defensive play.

I don't go a lot on statistics prefer the evidence I see and Lennon is great at getting back and harrying, holding up players forcing them away from where they want and represent the biggest danger.
As anyone who knows about football knows diving in and trying to make tackles is not always the best thing to do and holding up a player or shepherding to safer parts whilst defences organise is often far better. Also a harrying presence is often enough to hurry someone into making a poor passing decision or a poor pass
Anyone who ever watched Bobby Moore, one of Englands finest defenders would see that he rarely made a tackle, he'd hold the player up, stay on his feet and only commit to a tackle when he knew he could get the ball or there were players behind covering.

 

[NEVILLEB]

LB, CB, LW, CF,

 

[DaSpurs]

As few incomings other than the absolutely necessary as possible, and a lot of trimming the fat please.

Keep Lloris, bring in (or promote from within) young able back up.
Keep Walker, bring in (or promote from withing) young able back up.
Vertonghen, Kaboul, Chiriches, Dawson is a good four centre backs to choose from, try to keep all four. If one has to leave, promote Veljkovic.
Rose isn't good enough, ship him out and replace him with a good left back, and have either Fryers or a returning Ekotto as back up.
Keep both Soldado and Adebayor, and if Kane (or any other youth) isn't good enough, bring in young able back up.

Midfield is the only place where any significant surgery is required. On the notion that we'll usually play 5 in any combination from DM to Winger, we currently have too many, and more importantly, too many who aren't good enough. Sandro, Capoue, Livermore, Dembele, Bentaleb, Paulinho, Holtby, Carroll, Eriksen, Sigurdsson, Lennon, Townsend, Lamela, Chadli and potentially Pritchard. That's 3 players per position. I'd get rid of Livermore, Paulinho, Sigurdsson, Lennon and Townsend. I'd like to see either of Carroll or Holtby given a shot, with the other sold (for the sake of fairness to that player as much as anything else), Pritchard promoted to compete with Lamela and Chadli and the only really high quality signing made along with left back being someone who will improve our options together with those three for the wider positions.

If we ended up with a side that looked like:

Lloris-Archer
Walker-Fredericks Kaboul-Dawson Vertonghen-Chiriches GoodLB-Ekotto
Sandro-Capoue Dembele-Bentaleb
Lamela-Pritchard Eriksen-Holtby GoodWF-Chadli
Soldadebayor-YoungNHungry
​

I'd be confident (with the right manager) for the season ahead. We don't need that much done to us, we have a lot of good to very good players, some potentially top class. Our issue is that we have too much deadwood and no leadership, so trim the fat, inject some hunger into the squad with the likes of Archer, Fredericks, Pritchard and a young forward (if they're good enough). The players I've said should be sold, along with the unspent Defoe money, should easily cover the signing of a first team left back, a first team attacker and a good young striker.

Don't entirely agree on some of your personnel, but I'm very glad to see you highlighting the midfield for needed work nonetheless. Very important we address it this summer, or nothing will change regardless of manager or back line overhaul.

 

[DiamondLites]

Goalkeeper will be a key position to strengthen as I can't for the life if me see Hugo sticking around, as much as I hope he does but a Barca/PSG type club will be in for him. Begovic or Krul would do me, promote Archer to number 2, give Brad a rocking chair and a coaching job

 

[jezz]

I don't go a lot on statistics prefer the evidence I see and Lennon is great at getting back and harrying, holding up players forcing them away from where they want and represent the biggest danger.
As anyone who knows about football knows diving in and trying to make tackles is not always the best thing to do and holding up a player or shepherding to safer parts whilst defences organise is often far better. Also a harrying presence is often enough to hurry someone into making a poor passing decision or a poor pass
Anyone who ever watched Bobby Moore, one of Englands finest defenders would see that he rarely made a tackle, he'd hold the player up, stay on his feet and only commit to a tackle when he knew he could get the ball or there were players behind covering.

Sorry, me and you must be watching different games.