- Jun 4, 2005
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Morning.
To save the 'opponents fans thread' from getting completely derailed, I thought I'd start this one.
By the amount of likes and agrees the responses against me are getting, I can see I'm in the minority when I say I'm ready for a billionaire (who's willing to part with his money) to take us over.
I'll start by reiterating that I love the way the club is run and if we won anything in the very near future, it would be absolutely amazing considering other clubs' transfer budgets and wages. Genuinely, nothing would please me more. I'm a big fan of Levy even though he has his moments...
Chelsea and City are bang average clubs who got lucky. But they did get lucky. They're not going to get any poorer any time soon. Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal are all massive clubs who pay much more wages than us and can afford much higher transfer fees than us. Our new stadium will help us out with this and maybe get us nearer the level of Arsenal and possibly Liverpool. But nowhere near Utd, City or Chelsea (in terms of finance, and also international recognition).
If every team had a budget of £100m to spend and £100k a week wage limit, I'm fairly certain we'd win the league very comfortably with Pochettino in charge. But obviously it doesn't work like that. While we've got really close over the last couple of years doing it on a much lower budget, the other teams have now spent literally hundreds of millions to make up for their poor showings. We can't do that.
As I said in the other thread, a splurge of cash would mean the difference between buying decent players like Nkoudou and buying amazing players like Mane. My personal opinion is that Mane would've come to us over Liverpool (because of Poch) if we matched Liverpool's wage offer. But they offered literally double what we would. This will continue until we match the wages of other clubs. I think we would've won the league with Mane last season.
To the people who vote no, I ask you this:
If I could see into the future and told you we wouldn't win any major trophy for the next 20 years (but coming close) by staying as we are or I told you we'd win the PL and CL over the next few years if we got the cash injection, would you still say no? Honestly? Mr Pink said he'd still say no. I admire that but i genuinely can't understand it.
I've seen us not win anything interesting for about 34 of the 37 years I've been a season ticket holder. The main one was the UEFA cup in 84. The others have been just FA Cups. League cups are great but they're not major trophies. No league title for over 55 years. I want to compete with the massive clubs like Utd and the lucky clubs like Chelsea and City. I want to sign a genuine superstar, one that several other big clubs are in for but who chooses us. Footballers as a whole care more about money now, we all know that, so a great player who's offered £80k by us and £160k by someone else, will go to someone else.
In my opinion, it's the only way we can compete with the others now. We've done amazingly well to be up there these last 2 years but I want to compete with them for years and years. My fear is even if we do win the league, our players know they can earn millions more elsewhere and end up leaving. A sugar daddy would end that and could double their wages to make them stay.
I can understand people who want it done the right way but I think we'll get left behind because of it. Other smaller teams will start getting massive investors at some point and we'll get left even further behind. I can't understand why people wouldn't want it.
The people who are giving 'agrees' and 'winners' to the people opposing my argument, it's all very admirable that you want it done the 'right' way, it really is, but I refer you to the above question. Will you still feel the same if we haven't won anything in 15/20 years?
To save the 'opponents fans thread' from getting completely derailed, I thought I'd start this one.
By the amount of likes and agrees the responses against me are getting, I can see I'm in the minority when I say I'm ready for a billionaire (who's willing to part with his money) to take us over.
I'll start by reiterating that I love the way the club is run and if we won anything in the very near future, it would be absolutely amazing considering other clubs' transfer budgets and wages. Genuinely, nothing would please me more. I'm a big fan of Levy even though he has his moments...
Chelsea and City are bang average clubs who got lucky. But they did get lucky. They're not going to get any poorer any time soon. Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal are all massive clubs who pay much more wages than us and can afford much higher transfer fees than us. Our new stadium will help us out with this and maybe get us nearer the level of Arsenal and possibly Liverpool. But nowhere near Utd, City or Chelsea (in terms of finance, and also international recognition).
If every team had a budget of £100m to spend and £100k a week wage limit, I'm fairly certain we'd win the league very comfortably with Pochettino in charge. But obviously it doesn't work like that. While we've got really close over the last couple of years doing it on a much lower budget, the other teams have now spent literally hundreds of millions to make up for their poor showings. We can't do that.
As I said in the other thread, a splurge of cash would mean the difference between buying decent players like Nkoudou and buying amazing players like Mane. My personal opinion is that Mane would've come to us over Liverpool (because of Poch) if we matched Liverpool's wage offer. But they offered literally double what we would. This will continue until we match the wages of other clubs. I think we would've won the league with Mane last season.
To the people who vote no, I ask you this:
If I could see into the future and told you we wouldn't win any major trophy for the next 20 years (but coming close) by staying as we are or I told you we'd win the PL and CL over the next few years if we got the cash injection, would you still say no? Honestly? Mr Pink said he'd still say no. I admire that but i genuinely can't understand it.
I've seen us not win anything interesting for about 34 of the 37 years I've been a season ticket holder. The main one was the UEFA cup in 84. The others have been just FA Cups. League cups are great but they're not major trophies. No league title for over 55 years. I want to compete with the massive clubs like Utd and the lucky clubs like Chelsea and City. I want to sign a genuine superstar, one that several other big clubs are in for but who chooses us. Footballers as a whole care more about money now, we all know that, so a great player who's offered £80k by us and £160k by someone else, will go to someone else.
In my opinion, it's the only way we can compete with the others now. We've done amazingly well to be up there these last 2 years but I want to compete with them for years and years. My fear is even if we do win the league, our players know they can earn millions more elsewhere and end up leaving. A sugar daddy would end that and could double their wages to make them stay.
I can understand people who want it done the right way but I think we'll get left behind because of it. Other smaller teams will start getting massive investors at some point and we'll get left even further behind. I can't understand why people wouldn't want it.
The people who are giving 'agrees' and 'winners' to the people opposing my argument, it's all very admirable that you want it done the 'right' way, it really is, but I refer you to the above question. Will you still feel the same if we haven't won anything in 15/20 years?