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Gassin's finest

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Are you feeling ok?
Why? Because suddenly we're all bolshy about Kane staying? Even though up until a few hours ago we were all convinced that yesterday was the perfect send off and it's time for a clean slate?

The news doesn't change that Dane Scarlett impressed yesterday and I'd like to see him given a chance. And it certainly doesn't justify internet condescension.
 

HildoSpur

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Why? Because suddenly we're all bolshy about Kane staying? Even though up until a few hours ago we were all convinced that yesterday was the perfect send off and it's time for a clean slate?

The news doesn't change that Dane Scarlett impressed yesterday and I'd like to see him given a chance. And it certainly doesn't justify internet condescension.
Scarlett scored a good goal sure, doesn't mean he is anywhere near ready for regular first team football with us.
 

Gassin's finest

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Scarlett scored a good goal sure, doesn't mean he is anywhere near ready for regular first team football with us.
Fair enough.

I remember people saying the same thing about H after the Limassol game. I'd like to see him feature in early cup tie's if possible.
 

bubble07

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Fair enough.

I remember people saying the same thing about H after the Limassol game. I'd like to see him feature in early cup tie's if possible.

The issue is I hope we go 100% serious on both domestic cups irrespective of who we are up against. Just csnt take another cup exit by playing the B team
 

brendanb50

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Looking at the number of non homegrown players who are not under 21 in the squad there is a total of 19 at the club for a maximum of 17 spots.
Of those I feel 12 are certain to stay,
Vicario
Emerson
Dier
Romero
Porro
Betancur
Bissouma
Lo Celso
Son
Richarlison
Kulusevski
Solomon

3 appear very likely to leave
Lloris
Sanchez
Hojbjerg

Then there are 4 players who I think could stay or leave.
Perisic
Reguilon
Ndombele
Gil

We could keep all 4 and bring in a non home grown CB to make 17.

NOTE: Sarr and Udogie are under 21 players so do not need to be included
Good area to focus on. Personally I can see Reguilon and Ndombele being gone. Or if not Reggie, Perisic perhaps, so at least 2 from that list not being here IMHO.
 

bubble07

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If get this squad it's def looking half decent

Vicario
Emerson Romero Laporte Udoghie
Bissouma
Bentancur Madsison
Kulusevski Kane Son

Solomon* Richarlison* Veliz*
Lo Celso* Sarr*
Skipp*
Reguilon VDV* Phillips Porro*
Forster*

Subs*
 

spurs9

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If get this squad it's def looking half decent

Vicario
Emerson Romero Laporte Udoghie
Bissouma
Bentancur Madsison
Kulusevski Kane Son

Solomon* Richarlison* Veliz*
Lo Celso* Sarr*
Skipp*
Reguilon VDV* Phillips Porro*
Forster*

Subs*
Need another winger, be it Perisic, Gil or someone new.
 

bubble07

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So when the VDV and Veliz signings get done tomorrow that will have been a total outlay of 110m.

It's funny that with the 100m for Kane plus the 10m for winks we are back to a net spend of 0...

Whereas those scum down the road have net spent 190m...
 

spurs9

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Maybe we can hold fire till Jan with a winger
For Celtic last season, there were only about 5 league where Ange didn't sub both wingers in the game. I think, especially with the PL being even more physically demanding, its important to have 2 wingers on the bench.
 

Scott Colliver

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An update on my previous post. Still need to get rid of players.

Looking at the number of non homegrown players who are not under 21 in the squad there is a total of 20 at the club for a maximum of 17 spots.
Of those I feel 13 are certain to stay,
Vicario
Emerson
Dier
Romero
Van de Ven
Porro
Betancur
Bissouma
Lo Celso
Son
Richarlison
Kulusevski
Solomon

3 appear very likely to leave
Lloris
Sanchez
Ndombele

Then there are 4 players who I think could stay or leave.
Hojbjerg
Perisic
Reguilon
Gil

We could keep all 4 to make 17.

NOTE: Sarr and Udogie are under 21 players so do not need to be included
 

olithfc

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Assuming we sign an addition first team level CB as well as VDV.

After this, which part of our first team needs to be addressed next?
 

Timberwolf

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Assuming we sign an addition first team level CB as well as VDV.

After this, which part of our first team needs to be addressed next?
It's actually a good sign that we're finally reaching a point where I don't think we need huge upgrades anywhere (provided the new CBs are good enough).

I think we could use another forward, ideally someone that can play both off the right to compete with Kulu and as a long term competitor for the number 9 spot when Kane leaves (whether that's next week or next year). Maybe Gift Orban could do this? We'll probably have to replace Son within a year or two as well so this is something we'll also need to consider when buying forwards.

Beyond that another CM would be useful. I think it might be worth waiting until a later window to spend on this position, though, as we still don't know how Bentancur will look upon his return and how Ange wants to use him. Also I'd like to see us give Sarr a go as the 8 and let him develop rather than blocking his minutes straight away.

Long term I think we'll also need another RB as I don't think Porro is good enough defensively to be a regular starter there if Royal gets injured (although would love to be proved wrong on this one).
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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We have 2 significant holes left squad wise for me and that's another quality CB and another quality, explosive winger.

Dream signings for the 2 positions would be Tapsoba and Nico Williams (or Jeremy Doku). Doing that would give us an unbelievably good squad:

Vicario/Forster (HG)

Emerson/Porro
Romero/Dier/Phillips (U21)
Tapsoba/VdV
Udogie (U21)/Davies (HG)

Bentancur/Sarr (U21)/Skipp (HG)
Bissouma/Hojbjerg
Maddison (HG)/Lo Celso

Williams/Kulusevski
Kane (HG)/Richarlison/Veliz (U21) - I'd loan him out
Son/Solomon

It would leave us needing to sell:

Lloris
Sanchez
Rodon
Tanganga
Sessegnon
Spence (don't want to lose him but it seems he's on the way out)
Reguilon
Ndombele
Gil
Perisic

Would imagine both Sess and Gil would stay until January due to their injuries.

Anyway, if we pushed the boat out and made that squad happen, Ange would win us silverware this season imo and get us top 4. The only other main weakness in that squad would be Porro due to his defensive weakness. We could do with a better RB than Emerson and Porro but we could evolve that next summer.
 
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Davids_5

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An update on my previous post. Still need to get rid of players.

Looking at the number of non homegrown players who are not under 21 in the squad there is a total of 20 at the club for a maximum of 17 spots.
Of those I feel 13 are certain to stay,
Vicario
Emerson
Dier
Romero
Van de Ven
Porro
Betancur
Bissouma
Lo Celso
Son
Richarlison
Kulusevski
Solomon

3 appear very likely to leave
Lloris
Sanchez
Ndombele

Then there are 4 players who I think could stay or leave.
Hojbjerg
Perisic
Reguilon
Gil

We could keep all 4 to make 17.

NOTE: Sarr and Udogie are under 21 players so do not need to be included
Was just coming to discuss this, we’re going to have to focus on HG incomings or really hope that Dane, Devine, Phillips, Alfie D and co come good in the next two years.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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It is kind of amazing to think about but among:

Vicario, Udogie, VdV, Bissouma, Maddison and Sarr - we could effectively have 6 new starters who combined for 1200 minutes last season for us.

Add in Lo Celso (and Richarlison if Kane leaves) and we will have had a massive turnover, in addition to brining in a new manger/style/tactics...
 
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