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worcestersauce

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If Kane has to be sold to City, Laporte is the only player am interested. Dont need Ake.
But if I have to chose one other player, then we should go for Pedro Porro their Spanish international RB.
I wouldn't mind Foden.
 

kremlyn

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Awful team

Wont even make the europa
I partly disagree.

If ndombele steps up and applies himself as the pivot then it is a brilliant poch team. Very aggressive at pressing from the front. Very aggressive wing backs.

It's a big if though.
 

spids

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The more I think about it the more Conte and his 3-4-3 is the quickest way we can become a major force again next season. We'd need a major clearout of players not suited, and three new signings (who have to be top drawer).

Lloris
Toby NEW-CB Rodon
NEW-RWB Skipp Højbjerg Reguilon
NEW-WF Kane Son​

We could even save ourselves some money if Conte could 'persuade' Moura his future lies as a RWB. Moura has great recovery pace, aerial ability, can tackle. Only problem is he cannot cross the ball very well. You'd think that could be coached. Doherty would provide a natural alternative / backup. If we need to buy (and we probably do) Lampty from Brighton or Aaarons from Norwich would both be ideal as attacking RWBs

At LWB we would have Sessegnon and Reguilon battling for a place, two players perfectly suited to Conte's 3-4-3.

Levy needs to pull a world class CB out of the hat to show our existing players we are serious. Laporte would be perfect, but it would take a manager of Conte's standing to attract him. Tanganga and Davies providing back up.

2 DCMs seem to be Conte's preference (he used Matic and Kante in his title winning Chelsea side). Skipp and Højbjerg would be perfect for this system. Both competent passers capable of recycling the ball relatively quickly (especially if instructed to). Lo Celso would provide good competition and offer more progressive passing. Foyth could also fit Conte's DCM mould (whilst covering RB and RCB).

If Bale is returns for a 2nd loan year he'd be perfect as a WF in Conte's 3-4-3 as the defensive responsibilities are high up the pitch (think how little Hazard did defensively the year Chelsea won the league - and the double pivot in CM coupled with the WBs mean the wide areas are covered. And we'd have Bergwijn to offer cover.

If Bale is not returning, and Levy wants to show he really means business, offer £100M for Grealish who would be sensational as a LWF and also supplement the lack of creativity in CM.

Son and Kane are, well, just Son and Kane. Best strike force in the league.

Sell (9):

Aurier, Dier, Sanchez, Winks, Sissoko, Ndomebele, Dele, Lamela, Moura (if not a willing RWB).

Buy (3):

Lampty, Laporte, Grealish

Squad (22 players):

GK: LLORIS, Hart, Whiteman
CBs: LAPORTE, ALDERWEIRELD, RODON, Tanganga, Davies
RWBs: LAMPTY/Moura, Doherty
LWBs: REGUILON, Sessegnon
DCMs: SKIPP, HØJBJERG, Lo Celso, Foyth
Forwards: KANE, GREALISH/Bale, SON, Bergwijn, Scarlett

I think Conte could get a tune out of this team even if we only made 1 new signing at CB:

Lloris
Alderweireld--Laporte--Rodon
Moura---Skipp--Højbjerg---Reguilon
Bale--Kane--Son​

Given the massively reduced wage bill and transfer fee income (from selling 9 first team players), Levy could offer super star wages to new signings i.e. £300k per week (as well as to Kane / Son to get them to commit), and not have to go too far beyond a net spend of zero.
 

rossdapep

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The more I think about it the more Conte and his 3-4-3 is the quickest way we can become a major force again next season. We'd need a major clearout of players not suited, and three new signings (who have to be top drawer).

Lloris
Toby NEW-CB Rodon
NEW-RWB Skipp Højbjerg Reguilon
NEW-WF Kane Son​

We could even save ourselves some money if Conte could 'persuade' Moura his future lies as a RWB. Moura has great recovery pace, aerial ability, can tackle. Only problem is he cannot cross the ball very well. You'd think that could be coached. Doherty would provide a natural alternative / backup. If we need to buy (and we probably do) Lampty from Brighton or Aaarons from Norwich would both be ideal as attacking RWBs

At LWB we would have Sessegnon and Reguilon battling for a place, two players perfectly suited to Conte's 3-4-3.

Levy needs to pull a world class CB out of the hat to show our existing players we are serious. Laporte would be perfect, but it would take a manager of Conte's standing to attract him. Tanganga and Davies providing back up.

2 DCMs seem to be Conte's preference (he used Matic and Kante in his title winning Chelsea side). Skipp and Højbjerg would be perfect for this system. Both competent passers capable of recycling the ball relatively quickly (especially if instructed to). Lo Celso would provide good competition and offer more progressive passing. Foyth could also fit Conte's DCM mould (whilst covering RB and RCB).

If Bale is returns for a 2nd loan year he'd be perfect as a WF in Conte's 3-4-3 as the defensive responsibilities are high up the pitch (think how little Hazard did defensively the year Chelsea won the league - and the double pivot in CM coupled with the WBs mean the wide areas are covered. And we'd have Bergwijn to offer cover.

If Bale is not returning, and Levy wants to show he really means business, offer £100M for Grealish who would be sensational as a LWF and also supplement the lack of creativity in CM.

Son and Kane are, well, just Son and Kane. Best strike force in the league.

Sell (9):

Aurier, Dier, Sanchez, Winks, Sissoko, Ndomebele, Dele, Lamela, Moura (if not a willing RWB).

Buy (3):

Lampty, Laporte, Grealish

Squad (22 players):

GK: LLORIS, Hart, Whiteman
CBs: LAPORTE, ALDERWEIRELD, RODON, Tanganga, Davies
RWBs: LAMPTY/Moura, Doherty
LWBs: REGUILON, Sessegnon
DCMs: SKIPP, HØJBJERG, Lo Celso, Foyth
Forwards: KANE, GREALISH/Bale, SON, Bergwijn, Scarlett

I think Conte could get a tune out of this team even if we only made 1 new signing at CB:

Lloris
Alderweireld--Laporte--Rodon
Moura---Skipp--Højbjerg---Reguilon
Bale--Kane--Son​

Given the massively reduced wage bill and transfer fee income (from selling 9 first team players), Levy could offer super star wages to new signings i.e. £300k per week (as well as to Kane / Son to get them to commit), and not have to go too far beyond a net spend of zero.
I think Lamptey is a must for a Poch high intensity pressing team, that lad can get up and down relentlessly and he's very good technically. Him and Reggie would have the potential to mirror Walker and Rose (perhaps be better)
 

rossdapep

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I wonder if Sander Berge was a player Poch liked/wanted or if it was one he wasn't keen on. Will be interesting to watch his movements as I think he'd be a very good player for the Dembele role.
 

rossdapep

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I actually would take Gabriel Jesus (followed him since he broke through at Palmeiras) but not if it meant City got to do favourable deal.

He's not in the mould of Kane of course but listening to some people's opinions on here makes me really wonder if people actually watch him. He's very good at linking up and dribbling. He could be more clinical but I think he's suffered in this City team as many people were expecting him to become a pretty solid goalscorer in Brazil. If people can recall when he first came to City he was very explosive and promising, I think Pep coached some of that instinct out of him as he was still a very raw talent. He's also very good in the press, something Poch will need from a striker.

But, like I said, if City came with 100m plus Jesus I'd say no. We need to replace Kane's creativity AND goals, if money is short I think we need reinforcements everywhere, so milking them for every penny we can is extremely important.

Something like - Lamptey, Olise, Berge, Sabitzer, Ings, Jesus - I think would be a pretty good splurge
 

dirtyh

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Jun 24, 2011
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if he is going to city, fuck just getting their cast-off's in return, we should do the same.

i'd take £150m plus they take sissoko, winks, doherty, aurier, sanchez AND they have to play them all in the first team for 2 seasons.

wankers.
 
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I wonder if Sander Berge was a player Poch liked/wanted or if it was one he wasn't keen on. Will be interesting to watch his movements as I think he'd be a very good player for the Dembele role.

He ended up at Sheffield United, for not a huge amount, so I'll suggest the latter.
 

fridgemagnet

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News that moose has now come out with a statement about leaving!
Strange how few of our players are open about leaving, maybe it is a way to force levy to sell as it has been reported in the past the he has prevented exits of fringe players by excessive transfer fee demands.
We need to move players out to move on, so hopefully this summer is the time.

edit: link posted above...

I think that's partly accurate on valuations on players that really need to be cleared out but the caveat to that is how many players did we have marked as "can leave" we agree a fee but player knocks it back as Spurs pay them say £20k a week more so we're stuck with them.

Rose we agreed a fee with couple of clubs and Danny turned them down as they were either beneath him or less wages, Wanyama when he became perma-crocked was hard to shift for similar reasons and I'd be staggered if there weren't many others.

So while I agree with you to a point remember it needs the player to agree/be sensible as well.
 

fridgemagnet

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He ended up at Sheffield United, for not a huge amount, so I'll suggest the latter.

Did he not go there cheap because his knee blew out right on the verge of rumoured "big" clubs in for him (may have just been agent talk)
 

Oscar22

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Apr 9, 2004
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I love the players that choose to come out like this, Aurier and Sissoko won’t be winning any player of the year awards but they’ve had a “tough year”.

Bless, it’s like me going to work in an office job, strolling about not meeting deadlines, breaking the photocopier and blocking the toilet, then updating my LinkedIn to let my boss know I’m “after a new challenge”
 

EQP

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Remember how City dicked us over during the Kyle Walker transfer deal when we asked for then academy player Jaden Sancho? Lets not do them a favor. They need to pay the full amount if they want Harry. Best we should offer them is some clauses if Kane wins CL with them in the first 2 years etc
 

punkisback

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The more I think about it the more Conte and his 3-4-3 is the quickest way we can become a major force again next season. We'd need a major clearout of players not suited, and three new signings (who have to be top drawer).

Lloris
Toby NEW-CB Rodon
NEW-RWB Skipp Højbjerg Reguilon
NEW-WF Kane Son​

We could even save ourselves some money if Conte could 'persuade' Moura his future lies as a RWB. Moura has great recovery pace, aerial ability, can tackle. Only problem is he cannot cross the ball very well. You'd think that could be coached. Doherty would provide a natural alternative / backup. If we need to buy (and we probably do) Lampty from Brighton or Aaarons from Norwich would both be ideal as attacking RWBs

At LWB we would have Sessegnon and Reguilon battling for a place, two players perfectly suited to Conte's 3-4-3.

Levy needs to pull a world class CB out of the hat to show our existing players we are serious. Laporte would be perfect, but it would take a manager of Conte's standing to attract him. Tanganga and Davies providing back up.

2 DCMs seem to be Conte's preference (he used Matic and Kante in his title winning Chelsea side). Skipp and Højbjerg would be perfect for this system. Both competent passers capable of recycling the ball relatively quickly (especially if instructed to). Lo Celso would provide good competition and offer more progressive passing. Foyth could also fit Conte's DCM mould (whilst covering RB and RCB).

If Bale is returns for a 2nd loan year he'd be perfect as a WF in Conte's 3-4-3 as the defensive responsibilities are high up the pitch (think how little Hazard did defensively the year Chelsea won the league - and the double pivot in CM coupled with the WBs mean the wide areas are covered. And we'd have Bergwijn to offer cover.

If Bale is not returning, and Levy wants to show he really means business, offer £100M for Grealish who would be sensational as a LWF and also supplement the lack of creativity in CM.

Son and Kane are, well, just Son and Kane. Best strike force in the league.

Sell (9):

Aurier, Dier, Sanchez, Winks, Sissoko, Ndomebele, Dele, Lamela, Moura (if not a willing RWB).

Buy (3):

Lampty, Laporte, Grealish

Squad (22 players):

GK: LLORIS, Hart, Whiteman
CBs: LAPORTE, ALDERWEIRELD, RODON, Tanganga, Davies
RWBs: LAMPTY/Moura, Doherty
LWBs: REGUILON, Sessegnon
DCMs: SKIPP, HØJBJERG, Lo Celso, Foyth
Forwards: KANE, GREALISH/Bale, SON, Bergwijn, Scarlett

I think Conte could get a tune out of this team even if we only made 1 new signing at CB:

Lloris
Alderweireld--Laporte--Rodon
Moura---Skipp--Højbjerg---Reguilon
Bale--Kane--Son​

Given the massively reduced wage bill and transfer fee income (from selling 9 first team players), Levy could offer super star wages to new signings i.e. £300k per week (as well as to Kane / Son to get them to commit), and not have to go too far beyond a net spend of zero.
No creativity in those teams. One of those CMs needs to be a ball player.
 

ajspurs

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God&Texas

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No creativity in those teams. One of those CMs needs to be a ball player.

The setup would rely on additional creativity from the WBs as their defensive responsibility is reduced but I agree a Skipp and Lo Celso or similar center would be preferred. Conversely, and depending on opponent, drop one of the front 3 for a creative link in a 3-4-1-2. A midfield base of Skipp and Hojbjerg linked to a Kane/Son or Kane/Bale with Lo Celso (or Sabitzer or Olise) would be a great fit for the current squad. I would expect a marked improvement with only a single CB addition, but even more with a CB, RB, AM addition.
 

rossdapep

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Time to play fantasy football

Poch First 11 by 2022 (optimistic version with Kane)

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Fast and high intensity FBs with quick recovery and the ability to pin teams back.
Berge and Skipp providing the core strength and ability to break through the press, Skipp covering a lot of ground and breaking up play, Berge the more tempo setter.
Olise operating in the Eriksen role coming in off the right and creating with Lo Celso ghosting in behind.
 
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