Summer Transfers

[Flobadob]

Can we start to talk about who we sign to replace Kane? It’s going to happen, so let’s take our heads out of the sand

 

[DiVaio]

Can we start to talk about who we sign to replace Kane? It’s going to happen, so let’s take our heads out of the sand

it's not going to happen

 

[Snarfalicious]

Can we start to talk about who we sign to replace Kane? It’s going to happen, so let’s take our heads out of the sand

First, I hate you. Second, Christian Benteke.

 

[Flobadob]

it's not going to happen

it's not going to happen

Why not? He’s far too good to be playing outside the CL, let alone not be winning any trophies. He will ask to leave. If I was him I’d ask to leave, just being honest. We’ve gone several steps backwards in the last 2-3 years and it’s going to take at least that amount of time to put it right. He doesn’t have that time and if he gives it to us we are damn lucky and he’s stupid to do so, in my opinion

 

[dontcallme]

Why not? He’s far too good to be playing outside the CL, let alone not be winning any trophies. He will ask to leave. If I was him I’d ask to leave, just being honest. We’ve gone several steps backwards in the last 2-3 years and it’s going to take at least that amount of time to put it right. He doesn’t have that time and if he gives it to us we are damn lucky and he’s stupid to do so, in my opinion

People have been saying the same thing every year for the last 7 years.

Eventually they might be right but my prediction is the people making this prediction for this summer will be wrong again.

 

[TheTanguy]

Why not? He’s far too good to be playing outside the CL, let alone not be winning any trophies. He will ask to leave. If I was him I’d ask to leave, just being honest. We’ve gone several steps backwards in the last 2-3 years and it’s going to take at least that amount of time to put it right. He doesn’t have that time and if he gives it to us we are damn lucky and he’s stupid to do so, in my opinion

You are obviously right in saying that he deserves to play in the CL etc., but there is every chance that no club is prepared to pay £150m for him in the summer. And with a contract until 2024(!) we are only gonna sell him for an astronomical fee.

 

[Flobadob]

People have been saying the same thing every year for the last 7 years.

Eventually they might be right but my prediction is the people making this prediction for this summer will be wrong again.

I’d have disagreed with them every other year too, but not now. I think we had our chance (in the short-medium term) and blew it. Just look at the drop in quality. Actually think about it.. Toby and Jan in their prime compared to what we have now. Dembele and Wanyama would eat this midfield we have now for breakfast. Walker and Rose would dominate Aurier and Reguillon. No Eriksen consistently pulling the strings and chipping in with double figures goals and assists almost every season. This is a very average team and Kane is exceptional and I think he’ll know he can and should be doing better

 

[dontcallme]

I’d have disagreed with them every other year too, but not now. I think we had our chance (in the short-medium term) and blew it. Just look at the drop in quality. Actually think about it.. Toby and Jan in their prime compared to what we have now. Dembele and Wanyama would eat this midfield we have now for breakfast. Walker and Rose would dominate Aurier and Reguillon. No Eriksen consistently pulling the strings and chipping in with double figures goals and assists almost every season. This is a very average team and Kane is exceptional and I think he’ll know he can and should be doing better

I have thought about it thank you. I maintain my prediction that no team is going to put in the insane amount of money to buy him. Kane will not push for the move and we will not want to sell.

Kane could have been better for years, even when we were better.

He'll stay again next season.

 

[dtxspurs]

Andersen seems like a promising CB, hard to judge in a relegated team obviously. Bit weird to me that we'd be working to close deals before we have our manager announced. But maybe you start working on that stuff if its all been agreed but kept under the rug?

 

[Flobadob]

You are obviously right in saying that he deserves to play in the CL etc., but there is every chance that no club is prepared to pay £150m for him in the summer.

Yeah that’s the only thing that could help us. It may buy us one more year with him in the team. But we would absolutely have to put ourselves in a good position to either keep him the season after or to replace him. If we’re in the state we’re in now come next summer we are in big trouble

 

[dontcallme]

Andersen seems like a promising CB, hard to judge in a relegated team obviously. Bit weird to me that we'd be working to close deals before we have our manager announced. But maybe you start working on that stuff if its all been agreed but kept under the rug?

We make deals all the time when we don't have a manager. Without a specified style of play we buy the best we can when a deal is available.

Andersen has impressed this season. Our buying committee doesn't seem to worry about what tactics the next manager will want to implement.

 

[mr ashley]

Hmm good question. I’d say my order of preference is:

Emerson
Mukiele
Baku
Lamptey
Celik
Centonze
Aarons

In terms of price from most to least expensive (just my guess):
Aarons/Mukiele/Lamptey
Baku/Emerson
Celik
Centonze

Interesting about Lamptey, I’d have to look further into that, but I know he’s been injured for like 4 months.

The ligue 1 players would def be the cheapest unless the league can sort out a tv rights deal this summer, but even then with that and covid, they’ve been really hurt financially.

Absolutely love Emerson. I really do think he’s the complete fullback: tall, sturdy, powerfully quick and fast, aggressive, plays really nice forward passes, crossing, can keep the ball under pressure, aware of his positioning and opposition.

Mukiele for his versatility, athleticism, and defensive excellence. Experienced at the top level in European competition that the others on this list lack.

Baku has played many games further forward on the right and has more than 10 g/a this season. Excellent on the ball with running, passing, and dribbling, and still a decent defender. Very quick.

Lamptey is rapid and improving defensively, can beat defenders, but short.

Same can be said for Aarons (minus the top top elite pace) except he’s impressed more in the championship, but is more used to a back 4.

Celik has been even better this year than last. Scored some great goals, can cross, and really refined in his passing, both lofted and ground forward passes. Lacks athleticism.

Centonze might be the best defensively on my list. Tackling, interceptions, blocking shots and crosses, positioning all very good. Also quite composed on the ball and is a very good dribbler and runner with the ball. Need to see his delivery improve and be more consistent. Also wouldn’t cost more than aurier’s potential fee most likely.

Is Emerson owned outright by Betis now or do Barca still hold his registration?
obviously if it’s Barca there’s probably a deal to be done to help reduce their crippling wage bill.

Baku sounds interesting and be a flyer but obviously a risk.

I do get corluka vibes from Zeki celik which isn’t a bad thing but may not fit, especially if we plan on playing wingbacks.

And I’ve said elsewhere that it think there’s a deal to be done for Aarons if we want it with winks. Not that I’d choose it.
Such a shame we sold kwp. He would have answered a lot of questions at rb and rwb. We really mismanaged him

Sounds like you’d go for Emerson above all others?

 

[leelee]

I have thought about it thank you. I maintain my prediction that no team is going to put in the insane amount of money to buy him. Kane will not push for the move and we will not want to sell.

Kane could have been better for years, even when we were better.

He'll stay again next season.

City could and would put up the money. They don't need another position filling than a replacement for Aguero.

 

[MassadaTom]

City could and would put up the money. They don't need another position filling than a replacement for Aguero.

But that also mean that they can wait, season and then can go for Halland, (dortmund saved cl so he will stay)

 

[delawarespur]

Is Emerson owned outright by Betis now or do Barca still hold his registration?
obviously if it’s Barca there’s probably a deal to be done to help reduce their crippling wage bill.

Baku sounds interesting and be a flyer but obviously a risk.

I do get corluka vibes from Zeki celik which isn’t a bad thing but may not fit, especially if we plan on playing wingbacks.

And I’ve said elsewhere that it think there’s a deal to be done for Aarons if we want it with winks. Not that I’d choose it.
Such a shame we sold kwp. He would have answered a lot of questions at rb and rwb. We really mismanaged him

Sounds like you’d go for Emerson above all others?

Yes for me Emerson would be my choice. His ownership is interesting. He’s under contract at Barca, but co-owned by both Barca and Betis meaning any fee would be split between the clubs. That’s the important stuff to know, we’d be dealing with Barca, but Betis would have to agree to any fee. A weird one.

As you said, fit is so important. Much depends on the manager, but all the players I mentioned have some really good qualities. Price will also most definitely impact any purchase to possibly replace aurier.

 

[Nerine]

It’s all well and good saying we need to let the players go for peanuts because they’re shit, but if you’re Wanksy or Dier et al and the club accepts an offer from say Southampton or Watford or Norwich or whoever else, the player has still got to agree to it.

Depending on how cynical you are, being able to tell your mates and the females in the nightclubs that you play for Spurs and you earn a lot of fucking money every week probably is a bit more brag-worthy than saying you play for a lesser team.

Plus you’re in London at a swank training ground, swank stadium, swank teammates etc.

I can see why a lot of the deadwood are hard to shift. They have it easy.

I’d like to think that they would move for footballing reasons if they have been deemed surplus to requirement by our club, but I don’t really feel like some of our players have that ambition and are happy to phone it in on our books. If they play, cool. If they don’t, I can’t see them being particularly bothered.

 

[ardiles]

I would rather Dier, Sanchez and Doherty leave before Aurier. Even if we get an amazing RB to replace Aurier, those other 3 will still be around to cost us games. Difference is we won't be able to place blame at Serge's feet.

Many of us would prefer that we sold all four players (plus a few others).

Unfortunately we can’t wait for offers from the others before we sell Aurier. So I think we should just accept any reasonable offers that we get for any of the players on the ‘out’ list or we will be stuck with them for another season.

We need to trim the squad as we have too many that need to be sold. Hopefully we can offload some during this summer.

 

[hellava_tough]

You are obviously right in saying that he deserves to play in the CL etc., but there is every chance that no club is prepared to pay £150m for him in the summer. And with a contract until 2024(!) we are only gonna sell him for an astronomical fee.

I have thought about it thank you. I maintain my prediction that no team is going to put in the insane amount of money to buy him. Kane will not push for the move and we will not want to sell.

Kane could have been better for years, even when we were better.

He'll stay again next season.

Yeah that’s the only thing that could help us. It may buy us one more year with him in the team. But we would absolutely have to put ourselves in a good position to either keep him the season after or to replace him. If we’re in the state we’re in now come next summer we are in big trouble

City could and would put up the money. They don't need another position filling than a replacement for Aguero.

I think realistically, the clubs that could usually afford Kane are Barca, Real, PSG, Juventus, Man Utd and Man City.

The first two are skint and I'm not sure what state Juventus are in after signing Ronaldo a couple of years back.

Man Utd and Man City could make a statement by signing him, although City have never spent more than £70m (approx.) on a player. Plus, you know that Levy would slap on an extra £30m to £40m to the price-tag for PL rivals. Not saying it won't happen, but the Manchester clubs might think there is better value for money elsewhere.

And that leaves PSG, who could potentially slap down the cash. If they brought in Kane and Messi, they would be in pole position to win the CL next season. That said, I don't know how they're doing re. FFP. Didn't they get a fine a few years back? Certainly they wouldn't care if it was another fine that they were forced to pay, but if the second offence meant being kicked out of the CL, then they'd think twice.

So that might make them 'skint' as well, for all intents and purposes.

Finally, it's interesting that Lukaku has had two very good seasons with Inter. Certainly, a different type of player to Kane, but you would think that the big clubs across Europe might be looking at him as better value for money, depending on the style of football that a team plans to play.

It's a funny one; I think in years gone by then Kane would be half way out the door already, but in the summer of '21 the stars aren't quite aligning for the reasons above.

 

[hellava_tough]

It’s all well and good saying we need to let the players go for peanuts because they’re shit, but if you’re Wanksy or Dier et al and the club accepts an offer from say Southampton or Watford or Norwich or whoever else, the player has still got to agree to it.

Depending on how cynical you are, being able to tell your mates and the females in the nightclubs that you play for Spurs and you earn a lot of fucking money every week probably is a bit more brag-worthy than saying you play for a lesser team.

Plus you’re in London at a swank training ground, swank stadium, swank teammates etc.

I can see why a lot of the deadwood are hard to shift. They have it easy.

I’d like to think that they would move for footballing reasons if they have been deemed surplus to requirement by our club, but I don’t really feel like some of our players have that ambition and are happy to phone it in on our books. If they play, cool. If they don’t, I can’t see them being particularly bothered.

After seeing the Amazon doc, this left a nagging doubt in the back of my mind.

It's one thing to have the best and most luxurious facilities, if you're a Barca or Real; clubs with amazing histories of winning, where the culture is 'elite' in nature, where the fans will hold you to account and where the pressure is on every player to succeed when they join the club.

But if you're a club that has a reputation for bottling it when it really matters and is staffed by flaky players, then giving them all 'luxury' may well make the problem worse.

It's like spoiling your kids with various treats, when they're not achieving the school grades they should be achieving. It's not going to foster success, it's going to foster laziness.

 

[he is you know!]

I think realistically, the clubs that could usually afford Kane are Barca, Real, PSG, Juventus, Man Utd and Man City.

The first two are skint and I'm not sure what state Juventus are in after signing Ronaldo a couple of years back.

Man Utd and Man City could make a statement by signing him, although City have never spent more than £70m (approx.) on a player. Plus, you know that Levy would slap on an extra £30m to £40m to the price-tag for PL rivals. Not saying it won't happen, but the Manchester clubs might think there is better value for money elsewhere.

And that leaves PSG, who could potentially slap down the cash. If they brought in Kane and Messi, they would be in pole position to win the CL next season. That said, I don't know how they're doing re. FFP. Didn't they get a fine a few years back? Certainly they wouldn't care if it was another fine that they were forced to pay, but if the second offence meant being kicked out of the CL, then they'd think twice.

So that might make them 'skint' as well, for all intents and purposes.

Finally, it's interesting that Lukaku has had two very good seasons with Inter. Certainly, a different type of player to Kane, but you would think that the big clubs across Europe might be looking at him as better value for money, depending on the style of football that a team plans to play.

It's a funny one; I think in years gone by then Kane would be half way out the door already, but in the summer of '21 the stars aren't quite aligning for the reasons above.

The Athletic have consistently reported from months ago that Haaland/Lukaku are their targets because Kane costs too much.