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InOffMeLeftShin

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I would go with that exact team. I think I would probably pick Palacios between him and Hudd but it is a hard choice. Gudjohnsen to score against his old club?

Oh welcome by the way. :D
 

Adam456

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It is not about your opinion about what he should be, it is about what he actually is...and right at this moment he is a full-back who has had a couple of blinding games on the wing, where he was playing due to an injury crisis (whichis where you happen to believe he should be playing). The fact that he had these blinding games does not prove that your opinon IS correct, and still less does it prove that he is not what he actually is (that wouoldn't make any sense). If Bale and the club issue a statement that they have all, after serious deliberation, concluded that they should no longer consider him as a full-back, and cease conducting training and development with the avowed purpose of making him a better left-back, alter the club site/publications to make him a winger, and play him as a winger EVEN WHEN ALL MIDFIELDERS ARE FIT, he will be from that time on a winger. But if that happens it doesn't mean you can go retrospectively to this time and make your plain simple wrongness into a rightness. He IS full-back, who can also play as winger. Really, if you can't understand that I suggest you go back to school and start from scratch as your cognitive abilities do not function...AND NONE OF THIS TOUCHES UPON YOUR RIGHT TO BELIEVE THAT BALE WOULD MAKE A BETTER WINGER THAN FULL-BACK, OR TO WISH TO SEE HIM CONVERTED INTO A PERMANENT WINGER.

We can see that he has played very well as a winger, but if you did not see that he had many fantastic (truly fantastic) games as a full-back then you should go to SpecSavers.

:) have a good night chaps
 

keenu

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Gomes

Kaboul Dawson Bassong BAE

Lennon Huddlestone Modric Bale

Defoe Pavyluchenko

Subs: Crouch, Gudjohnsen, Bentley, Jenas, Palacios, Walker, Alnwick
 

MsLouMaria

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I would go with that exact team. I think I would probably pick Palacios between him and Hudd but it is a hard choice. Gudjohnsen to score against his old club?

Oh welcome by the way. :D

Thanks for the welcome. He's a pro, he should be up for it. He's got a cool head on him which I like. I think he could create chances and get good balls to Defoe for the finish. I haven't seen it work yet but it should in theory. And if it doesn't then bring on Pav. We've got options.
 

NickHSpurs

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Gomes
Kaboul Dawson Bassong Ekotto
Lennon Huddlestone Modric Bale
Defoe Gudjohnsen

Subs: Alnwick, Walker, Palacios, Jenas, Bentley, Pav & Crouch
 

Pinto

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Gomes
Kaboul Dawson Bassong Ekotto
Lennon Huddlestone Modric Bale
Defoe Gudjohnsen

Subs: Alnwick, Walker, Palacios, Jenas, Bentley, Pav & Crouch

Would also go with this lineup and take Lennon off at halftime or 60 minutes at the most. If we need goals we can bring on both Pav and Crouch and if we need to play defense and keep a 1 or 2 goal lead Palacios comes on for Lennon or Defoe and Bentley comes in to give Lennon a rest.
 

ajspurs

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I don't know about starting King. It's not necessary. We can make that call later in the game if we need him but we should manage fine. Lennon sounds like he's been training well all week. We don't have to start him but Bentleys been pretty lame recently. Can't decide between Palacios and Hudd. Pavs gone a little off the boil lately. Defoe isn't exactly on fire either but I think I'd rather see him start with Gudjohnsen.


Gomes

Kaboul - Dawson - Bassong - BAE

Lennon - Palacios/Hudd - Modric - Bale

Gudjohnsen - Defoe


That explanation may have sounded really negative but I don't mean it to be. That's a good line up!

Hi by the way. I'm new here!

I would have this but would probably have Bentley starting over Lennon. Obviously I prefer Lennon but 'Arry emphasised he didn't want to rush him back but then, we're not the fitness coaches so I guess only the guys at Tottenham actually know if he's fit enough to start.

I would also love to see Eidur start. For one because I think he deserves a start and, I'm a big Pav fan but he has gone slightly stale of recent, if he's dropped i think he'll come back with a bit of fire in his belly when he gets another chance.

I think we create more with Eidur on the pitch at times so it would be good for him to start so we could hopefully at least get a goal or 2 in the first half.
 

MsLouMaria

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I would have this but would probably have Bentley starting over Lennon. Obviously I prefer Lennon but 'Arry emphasised he didn't want to rush him back but then, we're not the fitness coaches so I guess only the guys at Tottenham actually know if he's fit enough to start.

I would also love to see Eidur start. For one because I think he deserves a start and, I'm a big Pav fan but he has gone slightly stale of recent, if he's dropped i think he'll come back with a bit of fire in his belly when he gets another chance.

I think we create more with Eidur on the pitch at times so it would be good for him to start so we could hopefully at least get a goal or 2 in the first half.

Re: Bentley. I agree in not pushing Lennon too hard it's just that Bentleys annoyed me in recent games. To be fair though I'm probably being a bit over the top. We could definitely work with both of them. Which would I start though... probably Lennon in the hope that he could get us into a strong lead then we can rest him and let Bentley take over. He has trained every day this week though!

Re: Gudjohnsen. Yeah I agree but he's started before hasn't he? Anyway that's not the point. I think it would be good for him :grin:
 

ajspurs

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Re: Bentley. I agree in not pushing Lennon too hard it's just that Bentleys annoyed me in recent games. To be fair though I'm probably being a bit over the top. We could definitely work with both of them. Which would I start though... probably Lennon in the hope that he could get us into a strong lead then we can rest him and let Bentley take over. He has trained every day this week though!

Re: Gudjohnsen. Yeah I agree but he's started before hasn't he? Anyway that's not the point. I think it would be good for him :grin:

No I'm not really a fan of Bentley to be honest. When he was warming the bench before Lennon's injury I wanted to see a bit of him, for him to have a chance to prove himself but all his performances have resulted in me not minding if we sell him now. I just think he was better than the Modric/Kranjcar on the wings because he added balance.

I guess Lennon could start and later go off, only thing is, we're certainly capable of getting a few goals without Lennon, so maybe we should see how it goes without him because, if we're struggling, Bentley for Lennon doesn't seem that positive a change where as Lennon coming on for Bentley would be like a surge of electricity throughout the team.

Yea I'm pretty sure Eidur has started before but not for a while :grin: I just love hearing his interviews and watching him play because he's loving playing for us right now and he always gives his all. You can see how frustrated he gets when he messes up a chance, he just wants to help us out as much he can.
 

riversmonkey

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----------Gomes-----------

Kaboul----Dawson-----King---Ekotto

Bentley---Palacios---Hudd-----Bale

---------Crouch----Defoe-------------


Will be able to deal with Bolton's physicality. Balance restored to the left hand side.
 

scat1620

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On the Lennon/Bentley question, for me if Lennon is not fit enough to play the full 90 minutes then he shouldn't start. The reason being is that you are gambling on taking an early lead in the game: if Lennon starts but the score is 0-0 after 70 mins with Lennon needing to come off, then Bentley for 20 minutes wouldn't scare Bolton. If Bentley starts and the score is 0-0 after 70 mins, then you can bring on Lennon and make a very positive change to try and grab the win.

Of course, there is the argument that by starting with Lennon and subbing him later then you might have the game won by the time he would need to come off, but it seems a risky strategy to me.
 

MsLouMaria

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On the Lennon/Bentley question, for me if Lennon is not fit enough to play the full 90 minutes then he shouldn't start. The reason being is that you are gambling on taking an early lead in the game: if Lennon starts but the score is 0-0 after 70 mins with Lennon needing to come off, then Bentley for 20 minutes wouldn't scare Bolton. If Bentley starts and the score is 0-0 after 70 mins, then you can bring on Lennon and make a very positive change to try and grab the win.

Of course, there is the argument that by starting with Lennon and subbing him later then you might have the game won by the time he would need to come off, but it seems a risky strategy to me.


Yeah I take your point on that definitely. It would be a gamble. I just want us to start off on a good foot!
 

MsLouMaria

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No I'm not really a fan of Bentley to be honest. When he was warming the bench before Lennon's injury I wanted to see a bit of him, for him to have a chance to prove himself but all his performances have resulted in me not minding if we sell him now. I just think he was better than the Modric/Kranjcar on the wings because he added balance.

I guess Lennon could start and later go off, only thing is, we're certainly capable of getting a few goals without Lennon, so maybe we should see how it goes without him because, if we're struggling, Bentley for Lennon doesn't seem that positive a change where as Lennon coming on for Bentley would be like a surge of electricity throughout the team.

Yea I'm pretty sure Eidur has started before but not for a while :grin: I just love hearing his interviews and watching him play because he's loving playing for us right now and he always gives his all. You can see how frustrated he gets when he messes up a chance, he just wants to help us out as much he can.


Yeah I love his attitude! He really is loving the club and as you say, you can tell he wants to do us proud. I love that he cares so much despite not getting played that much. He's also expressed that he wants to stay which is great news!
 

Son_Of

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when you hear eidur interviewed i reckon he's already ready to be a manager, except he can still play at a high level, so it wold be a premature move!

we have to win for the points, play well for the momentum, and not pick up any more injuries.
 

StartingPrice

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re: Bentley.
2 issues.
1) What is his value to the club;
2) Should he start ahead of Lennon tomorrow.

1) I think many on here are underestimating his value to the club TBH. Yeah, he slows attacks up, and no he doesn't have Lennon's pace. But IMHO it is really an arguement from silence. Ramos/Comolli were building a team with certain attributes, and players to compiment one another. Bentley would obviously look far better if he was playing with a full-back like Hutton with pace, who could overlap with him (not saying Hutton, just 'like' Hutton). As it is, much as I like Corluka, and much as I think he 'works' with a pacey player like Lennon on the wing, he just doesn't seem to compiment Bentley effectively.
At the same time, Bentley has actually got a fair few crosses into the oppos. boxes...it is just none of our forwards really attack the ball in the air in a way that highlights this (by scoring a lot of goals). No-one would really care if he cuts inside a lot and slows our attacks down if he had someone like Santa Cruz heading a fair proportion of them into the net. Crouch doesn't do that (he doesn't really have the power - no songs, please:grin:), JD certainly doesn't. In other words, it is a case of the players around Bentley not emphasising the plus points in his game, rather than him not having anything to contribute to the team. I also think that his goal threat would improve with confidence.
I really do believe that he he could be persuaded to stay and a genuine aerial threat (like Santa Cruz) brought in, and a player like, maybe, Walker being developed to overlap with him, we could have two totally different, and therefore complimentary, systems to play down the right, and benefit thereof;
2) If Lennon is 100% play him, If not, don't risk him. If he isn't fit, Bentley is the obvious and natural choice. But just don't announce before hand, Mr RotKnopf, that Bentley is gonna be subbed no matter what - don't want him forlornly wandering around like the noose is already around his neck AGAIN. Also, if we are gonna play Bentley, please Aitch, play a forward who can actually head the ball, and thus benefit from Bentley's (actually very good) crossing. ATM on all available evidence that has to be Pav., who isn't gonna provide many knockdowns, so JD isn't gonna benefit (and has looked off the pace since returning, any way), so play Eidur (SP loves Guddy:oops:).
 

Bus-Conductor

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I would consider saving King for ManC. And swapping Modric into the centre for Huddlestone. We look far more creative and control the ball better when Modric plays there. Bale LM. And Walker RB.
 

Adam456

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On the Lennon/Bentley question, for me if Lennon is not fit enough to play the full 90 minutes then he shouldn't start. The reason being is that you are gambling on taking an early lead in the game: if Lennon starts but the score is 0-0 after 70 mins with Lennon needing to come off, then Bentley for 20 minutes wouldn't scare Bolton. If Bentley starts and the score is 0-0 after 70 mins, then you can bring on Lennon and make a very positive change to try and grab the win.

Of course, there is the argument that by starting with Lennon and subbing him later then you might have the game won by the time he would need to come off, but it seems a risky strategy to me.

Unfooking believeable. Seem my other posts in this thread

Bring Lennon on with 20 mins to go and they will hack him down. I said it before ManUre and I'm saying it again.

Remember !
 

scat1620

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Unfooking believeable. Seem my other posts in this thread

Bring Lennon on with 20 mins to go and they will hack him down. I said it before ManUre and I'm saying it again.

Remember !

:shrug:

Why would Bolton be more likely to hack Lennon in the last 20 mins than they would in the first 70 mins?

Anyway, I think you've missed the point in my argument. I think that if Lennon isn't fit enough to play the whole game then he should play a part from the bench rather than the start, because I think that whilst we should be good enough to beat Bolton without him, if we do need Lennon to get the win then he'd be more likely to do that in a final push rather than a blazing start.
 
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